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On July 01 2012 12:20 Khaldor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 00:23 speknek wrote:
This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on. Everyone's a critic nowadays. And if you don't know what you are talking about just make random shit up. Haters gonna hate, really tiresome
I especially enjoyed how grammatically incorrect this post was in a thread critizing your poor English. Are you even trying? I was fairly neutral towards you until today. I will not be watching code A again until you leave or start taking your amazing job just a little bit more seriously and maturely.
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One of my favorite casters. Keep it up! =D
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On July 01 2012 22:24 SkaPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 12:20 Khaldor wrote:On July 01 2012 00:23 speknek wrote:
This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on. Everyone's a critic nowadays. And if you don't know what you are talking about just make random shit up. Haters gonna hate, really tiresome I especially enjoyed how grammatically incorrect this post was in a thread critizing your poor English. Are you even trying? I was fairly neutral towards you until today. I will not be watching code A again until you leave or start taking your amazing job just a little bit more seriously and maturely.
Not gonna be missed, don't worry.
Keep the hard work Khaldor!!!
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Casting has got much better recently. You seem to know more what you're talking about in terms of metagame etc. Stuff that the casual viewer hasn't kept up on. Still not up there with Artosis and (suprisingly) Wolf, who has also embraced the SC2 metagame since being in Korea, but Korea is clearly helping you with knowledge too.
I'm now enjoying your casting with Wolf bcuz of this, and that you two seem to synergise well too :D Keepitup 
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On July 01 2012 22:24 SkaPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 12:20 Khaldor wrote:On July 01 2012 00:23 speknek wrote:
This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on. Everyone's a critic nowadays. And if you don't know what you are talking about just make random shit up. Haters gonna hate, really tiresome I especially enjoyed how grammatically incorrect this post was in a thread critizing your poor English. Are you even trying? I was fairly neutral towards you until today. I will not be watching code A again until you leave or start taking your amazing job just a little bit more seriously and maturely.
It's posts like this that are not needed in a feedback thread and do nothing but make the creator not want to read through anymore.
Same thing with plenty of other posts that start off with "I don't like your casting" then go on to list a multitude of issues they have with the casting. How do you expect Khaldor to take you seriously if you already stated you don't like him in the first sentence? You are clearly biased already, regardless of whether your points are valid or not he will just gloss over it to avoid random hate or if he does read through, he is immediately on the defensive. People say he needs to be less offensive when he critiques a player, that street goes both way gentlemen. If you're going to critique him on that, perhaps you should be less rude when offering him said feedback.
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I really like your cast so keep it up
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I know you're a hard worker but I don't enjoy your casting. Too many inaccurate claims and talking over Wolf. After watching Sculp vs Symbol, your criticism at the end was completely uncalled for. You seem to think that you know more then everyone. You even called the girls picture in the audience "I've seen better but yeah it's good."
Dunno man, you seem to think people hate on you but I feel the opposite. You hate on everyone.
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Love the energy on the play-by-play calling. Really makes the games more exciting to watch. Great job!!
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On July 01 2012 23:00 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 22:24 SkaPunk wrote:On July 01 2012 12:20 Khaldor wrote:On July 01 2012 00:23 speknek wrote:
This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on. Everyone's a critic nowadays. And if you don't know what you are talking about just make random shit up. Haters gonna hate, really tiresome I especially enjoyed how grammatically incorrect this post was in a thread critizing your poor English. Are you even trying? I was fairly neutral towards you until today. I will not be watching code A again until you leave or start taking your amazing job just a little bit more seriously and maturely. It's posts like this that are not needed in a feedback thread and do nothing but make the creator not want to read through anymore. Same thing with plenty of other posts that start off with "I don't like your casting" then go on to list a multitude of issues they have with the casting. How do you expect Khaldor to take you seriously if you already stated you don't like him in the first sentence? You are clearly biased already, regardless of whether your points are valid or not he will just gloss over it to avoid random hate or if he does read through, he is immediately on the defensive. People say he needs to be less offensive when he critiques a player, that street goes both way gentlemen. If you're going to critique him on that, perhaps you should be less rude when offering him said feedback.
Maybe if he were less rude in his own self created critique thread the bar would be set a little higher. But that's fine I'll take a page from his book and let him know I think his casting is "fucking annoying."
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I liked your cast in the past, but in the recent GSTL and code S games (just last week), it felt that you were talking over Wolf a tad too much (and you did not allow him to speak when he tries to speak up in between your pauses).
It got annoying after awhile.. Previously I did not feel that way.
Keep up the good work though! Your knowledge seems to be improving over the past, and I really like the hype you and Wolf creates for the games despite all the hate about you guys are simply "shouting for the sake of shouting"; personally feel that you guys are truly excited about some things going on (the MC vs Squirtle games were really well casted even though you guys called it wrong  )
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On July 01 2012 23:00 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 22:24 SkaPunk wrote:On July 01 2012 12:20 Khaldor wrote:On July 01 2012 00:23 speknek wrote:
This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on. Everyone's a critic nowadays. And if you don't know what you are talking about just make random shit up. Haters gonna hate, really tiresome I especially enjoyed how grammatically incorrect this post was in a thread critizing your poor English. Are you even trying? I was fairly neutral towards you until today. I will not be watching code A again until you leave or start taking your amazing job just a little bit more seriously and maturely. [...] Same thing with plenty of other posts that start off with "I don't like your casting" then go on to list a multitude of issues they have with the casting. How do you expect Khaldor to take you seriously if you already stated you don't like him in the first sentence? [...]
So... basically, according to you, all Khaldor will take seriously is a "Love your casting, Khaldor, keep up the great work. [The end]"?
You know he has a fan club for this right? Why need a feedback thread if he doesn't accept negative criticism?
You're the one who's disrespectful of him if you think he created this thread just to satisfy his ego with cheers of fans...
I mean, wtf that would be a pretty good start already if all posts in there were "I don't like your casting because [reasons/issues/whatever]". I've seen some plain "You're horrible." or "your casting is atrocious", which are obviously not constructive and helpful, but I'd like to think that some posts in fact do make sense.
I'm gonna make a wild guess here and say that Khaldor in the end didn't expect this thread to turn out like this. All he wanted was a simple youtubesque thumbs up/ thumbs down kind of feel for his cast, to see where his popularity was at. But he didn't expect the wide range of comments, from hateful one liners to precise criticisms, so he's a bit lost in all this and doesn't know how to sort it all, what to take seriously, and what to focus on in priority. He would be better off asking for this to be closed by a mod, but he can't do that otherwise people would accuse him of running away in front of criticism. Khaldor is too manly for that (:D).
I'll try to stay away from this thread in the future, as obviously we non-die-hard fans of Khaldor's are not welcome.
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On July 02 2012 00:03 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 23:00 Dosey wrote:On July 01 2012 22:24 SkaPunk wrote:On July 01 2012 12:20 Khaldor wrote:On July 01 2012 00:23 speknek wrote:
This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on. Everyone's a critic nowadays. And if you don't know what you are talking about just make random shit up. Haters gonna hate, really tiresome I especially enjoyed how grammatically incorrect this post was in a thread critizing your poor English. Are you even trying? I was fairly neutral towards you until today. I will not be watching code A again until you leave or start taking your amazing job just a little bit more seriously and maturely. [...] Same thing with plenty of other posts that start off with "I don't like your casting" then go on to list a multitude of issues they have with the casting. How do you expect Khaldor to take you seriously if you already stated you don't like him in the first sentence? [...] So... basically, according to you, all Khaldor will take seriously is a "Love your casting, Khaldor, keep up the great work. [The end]"? You know he has a fan club for this right? Why need a feedback thread if he doesn't accept negative criticism? You're the one who's disrespectful of him if you think he created this thread just to satisfy his ego with cheers of fans... I mean, wtf that would be a pretty good start already if all posts in there were "I don't like your casting because [reasons/issues/whatever]". I've seen some plain "You're horrible." or "your casting is atrocious", which are obviously not constructive and helpful, but I'd like to think that some posts in fact do make sense. I'm gonna make a wild guess here and say that Khaldor in the end didn't expect this thread to turn out like this. All he wanted was a simple youtubesque thumbs up/ thumbs down kind of feel for his cast, to see where his popularity was at. But he didn't expect the wide range of comments, from hateful one liners to precise criticisms, so he's a bit lost in all this and doesn't know how to sort it all, what to take seriously, and what to focus on in priority. He would be better off asking for this to be closed by a mod, but he can't do that otherwise people would accuse him of running away in front of criticism. Khaldor is too manly for that (:D). I'll try to stay away from this thread in the future, as obviously we non-die-hard fans of Khaldor's are not welcome.
theres a big difference between listing everything you hate about a caster, and telling them what you think they could improve. even if you think Khaldor is the worst caster in the world, youd be much better off pretending that you liked him apart from one thing, and then once he fixes that saying something else, because that way he might pay attention. and that not just him being funny, it works like that in all aspects of life. that why those shitty team building exercises emphasise constructive criticism rather than just shitting all over people.
if you really just need to vent without saying anything useful, both /vg/ and reddit are good places to do that
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You've gotten a lot better, but I would like to see you think a little bit before you start screaming play by play. Very often when a battle occurs you suddenly start yelling, but because you haven't thought it through you just keep saying things like "He's going... He's going in! He's trying to make it work! He's trying to win the battle here". Kind of pointless to commentate so enthusiastically if you have nothing to say. Other than that, your analysis has greatly improved, and so has your english.
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On July 02 2012 00:03 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 23:00 Dosey wrote:On July 01 2012 22:24 SkaPunk wrote:On July 01 2012 12:20 Khaldor wrote:On July 01 2012 00:23 speknek wrote:
This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on. Everyone's a critic nowadays. And if you don't know what you are talking about just make random shit up. Haters gonna hate, really tiresome I especially enjoyed how grammatically incorrect this post was in a thread critizing your poor English. Are you even trying? I was fairly neutral towards you until today. I will not be watching code A again until you leave or start taking your amazing job just a little bit more seriously and maturely. [...] Same thing with plenty of other posts that start off with "I don't like your casting" then go on to list a multitude of issues they have with the casting. How do you expect Khaldor to take you seriously if you already stated you don't like him in the first sentence? [...] So... basically, according to you, all Khaldor will take seriously is a "Love your casting, Khaldor, keep up the great work. [The end]"? You know he has a fan club for this right? Why need a feedback thread if he doesn't accept negative criticism? You're the one who's disrespectful of him if you think he created this thread just to satisfy his ego with cheers of fans... I mean, wtf that would be a pretty good start already if all posts in there were "I don't like your casting because [reasons/issues/whatever]". I've seen some plain "You're horrible." or "your casting is atrocious", which are obviously not constructive and helpful, but I'd like to think that some posts in fact do make sense. I'm gonna make a wild guess here and say that Khaldor in the end didn't expect this thread to turn out like this. All he wanted was a simple youtubesque thumbs up/ thumbs down kind of feel for his cast, to see where his popularity was at. But he didn't expect the wide range of comments, from hateful one liners to precise criticisms, so he's a bit lost in all this and doesn't know how to sort it all, what to take seriously, and what to focus on in priority. He would be better off asking for this to be closed by a mod, but he can't do that otherwise people would accuse him of running away in front of criticism. Khaldor is too manly for that (:D). I'll try to stay away from this thread in the future, as obviously we non-die-hard fans of Khaldor's are not welcome.
Avilo? That you? Putting words stupidly in my mouth when I said no such thing.
There are ways to critique someone without coming off as a complete ass hole and insulting them. I know, it's a difficult concept on the intarwebz, but it can be done.
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yea, talking too much lately
too long winded at times as well
but in general i like your casting a lot
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Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
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I feel like many of these comments are randomly generated shitting on Khalador for the "lulz". Haters gonna hate. By definition, a hater is just someone who hates for the lulz. If you dont want people to say, haters gonna hate, have some reason for hating or dont say anything.
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On July 01 2012 23:00 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 22:24 SkaPunk wrote:On July 01 2012 12:20 Khaldor wrote:On July 01 2012 00:23 speknek wrote:
This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on. Everyone's a critic nowadays. And if you don't know what you are talking about just make random shit up. Haters gonna hate, really tiresome I especially enjoyed how grammatically incorrect this post was in a thread critizing your poor English. Are you even trying? I was fairly neutral towards you until today. I will not be watching code A again until you leave or start taking your amazing job just a little bit more seriously and maturely. It's posts like this that are not needed in a feedback thread and do nothing but make the creator not want to read through anymore. Same thing with plenty of other posts that start off with "I don't like your casting" then go on to list a multitude of issues they have with the casting. How do you expect Khaldor to take you seriously if you already stated you don't like him in the first sentence? You are clearly biased already, regardless of whether your points are valid or not he will just gloss over it to avoid random hate or if he does read through, he is immediately on the defensive. People say he needs to be less offensive when he critiques a player, that street goes both way gentlemen. If you're going to critique him on that, perhaps you should be less rude when offering him said feedback.
What the hell is wrong with Khaldor fans?
Go read the original comment Khaldor so rudely responded to with that insane post (the grammar error, the bad language, that's just gold), it was very polite the guy just said to tone down the zerg biased (which everybody has been saying in this thread anyway), and yet there are people here not only defending Khaldor but thinking they are doing him a favour by defending this type of behavior.
You know what, keep it up, defend him, encourage him to trash people for no reason in threads and he'll get fired very soon, I'm OK with that I don't like Khaldor personally so you are actually helping my cause there, thank you.
If you want to help Khaldor on the other hand you should tell HIM to contain himself, both on air and on the internet, that is if you want to keep him.
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Trash people for no reason? Well if you think so, I'll gladly leave you to your opinion. If you think this has anything to do with feedback and constructive criticism be my guest. Im glad that not everybody is like this but that some are eager to help me improve. But as I said: first one has to wade through all the hater-bullshit. If you honestly believe that I don't act on the suggestions made in here you obviously don't listen to my casts which makes your post even more useless to me than they already are.
But that's ok Hater's gonna hate. It's just sometimes very tiresome to deal with such crap (on the other hand it's also entertaining).
On July 02 2012 00:21 Dosey wrote:
There are ways to critique someone without coming off as a complete ass hole and insulting them. I know, it's a difficult concept on the intarwebz, but it can be done.
THIS. If you want your feedback to be taken serious than you should give this comment a lot of thought. And also listen to more than only one cast. Pretty sad I can't edit the first post anymore. Makes this entire thread kinda useless unfortunately because most people can't even read up on what I responded to.
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On July 02 2012 02:21 Khaldor wrote:Trash people for no reason? Well if you think so, I'll gladly leave you to your opinion. If you think this has anything to do with feedback and constructive criticism be my guest. Im glad that not everybody is like this but that some are eager to help me improve. But as I said: first one has to wade through all the hater-bullshit. If you honestly believe that I don't act on the suggestions made in here you obviously don't listen to my casts which makes your post even more useless to me than they already are. But that's ok Hater's gonna hate. It's just sometimes very tiresome to deal with such crap (on the other hand it's also entertaining).
Khaldor, you responded to :
"This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. "
with:
"That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on.
Everyone's a critic nowadays. And if you don't know what you are talking about just make random shit up. Haters gonna hate, really tiresome"
Do you actually think that:
-first: the post deserved that kind of rudeness and agressivity?
-second: that even if the post was trash you could respond in that manner?
Take the advice your true fans gave you (not the clueless fanboys), when you see a trash post you just ignore it, when you see a well written post (be it negative or positive) you try to read it and take away as much as possible from it. In any case, there's no excuse for your post and even you should have realized it by now. Man up and admit it.
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