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koonst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States215 Posts
December 20 2011 19:07 GMT
#41
is there english support for the house? or just polish/ or russian?
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 20 2011 19:14 GMT
#42
Definitely cool to hear and I hope it pays off, especially since those aren't the biggest name players playing there.
vinsky
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland48 Posts
December 20 2011 19:49 GMT
#43
nice idea, i hope the projeckt ll work out.
GL matiz, Gl poland!
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Goodseed
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)270 Posts
December 20 2011 19:52 GMT
#44
wow the place really looks nice. hope everything goes fine and good luck!
안녕하소~
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 19:55:19
December 20 2011 19:54 GMT
#45
On December 21 2011 04:07 koonst wrote:
is there english support for the house? or just polish/ or russian?


Russian? i don't think so. I don't know any pole that can speak it.

English is mandatory in every school so it shouldn't be a problem.
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 20:21:19
December 20 2011 20:19 GMT
#46
On December 21 2011 04:54 5ukkub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 04:07 koonst wrote:
is there english support for the house? or just polish/ or russian?


Russian? i don't think so. I don't know any pole that can speak it.

English is mandatory in every school so it shouldn't be a problem.


It's not mandatory. A foreign language course *is* and while English is the most widespread by far, many schools do offer alternatives and one can easily finish education without having to learn any English whatsoever. On the other hand, the person suggesting "polish / russian support" is obviously ignorant enough not to realize the sheer silliness that is his comment.
DaNom
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland144 Posts
December 20 2011 20:54 GMT
#47
I love the idea!
You have my sword!
DaNom.211 BNet EU
MeyerA
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Sweden122 Posts
December 20 2011 21:07 GMT
#48
Great initiative, good luck!
Cracy
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland221 Posts
December 20 2011 21:16 GMT
#49
Will be happy to help.

GL from Warsaw - I guess it is selfexplanatory where I would prefer the team to be
Oderint dum probent
mTwRINE
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany318 Posts
December 20 2011 22:37 GMT
#50
Cool idea. Hopefully everything works out.
BraneSC2
Profile Joined May 2010
United States123 Posts
December 20 2011 22:47 GMT
#51
I give this my support! I'd say Posen seems more practical, but either way this is great.
No fighting in the war room!
SD-Spirit
Profile Joined November 2009
Poland31 Posts
December 21 2011 10:16 GMT
#52
On December 21 2011 05:19 True_Spike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 04:54 5ukkub wrote:
On December 21 2011 04:07 koonst wrote:
is there english support for the house? or just polish/ or russian?


Russian? i don't think so. I don't know any pole that can speak it.

English is mandatory in every school so it shouldn't be a problem.


It's not mandatory. A foreign language course *is* and while English is the most widespread by far, many schools do offer alternatives and one can easily finish education without having to learn any English whatsoever. On the other hand, the person suggesting "polish / russian support" is obviously ignorant enough not to realize the sheer silliness that is his comment.


hahaha - i just wonted to write the same thing.
koonst - How can u be so ingorant to assume that since this is that particular part of the word polish/russian is an obvious language for everyone?

But hay - i see where u come from so i am not that surprised anymore......
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Angelfish1
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom29 Posts
December 21 2011 10:22 GMT
#53
This is really cool, can't wait to see great things out of this
I'm Hungry...
Legend`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada381 Posts
December 21 2011 10:26 GMT
#54
Sounds cool, but not sure why the poles are bashing the guy for asking a simple question.
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Deimos0
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Poland277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 10:42:19
December 21 2011 10:40 GMT
#55
I don't know either, but there was a time, when we were tired of making relations between us and Russia. Maybe that's just fallout from making such relations. Anyway GL Matiz, it's great to hear that Poland tries to be engaged in e sports to a greater degree.

EDIT: Warsaw seems to be better localization - it has better communication despite higher cos of living when compared to Poznań.
protect me from what I want
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
December 21 2011 10:47 GMT
#56
if i wanted adventure i would do warsaw. if i wanted to win i would do the other city.
i like cheese
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 11:02:58
December 21 2011 10:58 GMT
#57
On December 20 2011 09:19 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 06:56 PhiliBiRD wrote:
On December 20 2011 06:50 dAPhREAk wrote:
gl to you. it seems that the non-koreans houses so far have been lackluser (Arizona, USA and the one in Sweden).


lackluser? you mean lackluster? and if so how do you mean? I think the non korean houses are far superior. they are far far more accommodating for the players, and theres zero reason why they cannot be just as beneficial with the right players/coach and practice regime.

oh, spellcheck fail. yes, i meant lackluster. i meant lackluster in that none of them have shown any results. they look pretty; they look awesome; they look like a lot of fun; but then nothing happens. didn't catz have this awesome gaming house in florida? i saw no result; indeed, i haven't seen catz in any tournament. then, eg created the arizona house. looks awesome, looks like a lot of fun, but i haven't seen any real improvement in the players. idra, huk and puma were awesome before they went into the house, but i didnt see any improvement in any other players really. the only player that i really saw improve was demuslim, but that had a lot to do with outside factors (e.g., he broke his hand/arm and came back). as for the sweden house, other than TLO, I cant even recall who was in the home, but what results came out of it? nobody is saying "look at the success of the swedish gaming house." indeed, the only press i have seen was that shitstorm that went on after a tl writer wrote that the EG house was a failure. nowhere have i seen "god damn, creating a gaming house was a good idea."

that being said, i wish the best of luck to the poland gaming house. maybe it will set the bar higher for non-korean progaming houses.

edit:
catz, fenix, tt1 and drewbie house -- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=201561
tlo, sjow, morrow, haypro and bischu house -- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225087


I think your argument has the basic flaw that you're comparing people that live in team houses to people that also live in team houses. It is true not every player of the three team houses you mentioned has performed very well, but at least Morrow, Haypro and Sjow has. And as for the EG players, performing much more poorly resultwise than they used to, can quite simply be attributed to the raised skill level in MLGs. You should rather look at their results against non-teamhouse players. My guess is that they improved a lot on average in that aspect.

We're now at the point that if you want to be top 20 in the world, you _have_ to live in a teamhouse. But furthermore we're moving towards the point that if you want to be top 200, you have to live in a teamhouse. IMO, we saw this in brood war where any non-pro in the world (no matter how insanely talented) would have a hard time vs. any korean b-teamer. I would argue that often the non-pros far exceeded b-teamers in terms of raw talent and potential, the nature of the teamhouse and continuous work closed the gap, and then some.

This, which I believe is true, leads to the conclusion that a teamhouse in Poland can only be good. As long as players are motivated, their skill will skyrocket. You don't have to play vs. the absolute best to improve (although it helps), as long as theres a big enough playerpool of motivated and fairly skilled players. Poland seems like an ideal place for pro-gaming houses. The low living costs, a fairly central location in Europe and IMO its more compatible with the western european culture (as compared to the Balkans, which are also cheap).

My tip is to go for Warsaw if you're planning on bringing in a lot of non-Polish players. They'd most likely like to see and live in that city, as compared to Poznan. But if living costs, housing standards and airplane rates are much better in Poznan go for that. (Enables more teams to send players, etc.) Sc2 comes before culture in that case.

Anyway, seems like a great thing to do and im all for it.
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1387 Posts
December 21 2011 11:13 GMT
#58
great idea, good luck with the project!
mada mada dane
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 21 2011 12:00 GMT
#59
This is a novel business concept. I can see it being viable!
Thank God and gunrun.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 21 2011 14:06 GMT
#60
gogo Warsaw
It used to be a quite good esports city after counter-strike boom not as much now anymore but still good(tbh irrelevant for SC2, as LAN is non-factor) Progaming in Poland is still frown upon make it change!
gl
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