EPTI think it would be much better if all the players play for seeing in the goup stage and no player would be eliminated afer the group stage.
Just like MLG has.
Naniwa Interview - Blizzard Cup Group B - Page 5
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Jigsy
21 Posts
I think it would be much better if all the players play for seeing in the goup stage and no player would be eliminated afer the group stage. Just like MLG has. | ||
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nooboon
2602 Posts
At least he played the match and not forfeited. | ||
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
even money doesn't always help. | ||
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ReboundEU
508 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:52 PrimeTimey wrote: If you want eSports to be taken seriously, and "professionally" you can't have players purposely throwing matches no matter of their importance. You don't see any sports team throw the last game of the season even if they know they won't make the playoffs. Sure, they will not put forth a 100% effort - but they still play the game to win. People love to win, and it appears that Naniwa only cares about winning money - no love for the game, just the cash. People love to win on ladder People love to win MONEY in competitions otherwise why bother? Fame? ... Fame comes with winning competitions (that means also money). Tell me which were the players at MLG Orlando...or Providence...or whatever other competition #2 #3 and #4 without googling. U already forgot them right? Fame = #1 ...rest are forgot the next day. When u go to work..u go to earn money... When u want to work out of pleasure u sit at home and do it for free as a passion. Absolutely no pro on this planet will tell u "Oh i fly 50km to get more fame" No..they will tell u "I practice because i want to win competitions....because the money is good" | ||
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Apolex
Canada103 Posts
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Quiescence
Canada33 Posts
Although the match was meaningless advancement-wise. It did make MMA essentially play back-to-back against Polt. Just playing the devil's advocate. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23579 Posts
1. Does he feel bad for Nestea, who wanted to play seriously, or does he feel like he owed Nestea to try his best? 2. What if people were for example betting on this match? Anyways, I think we can all agree that the system is at fault for forcing them to play... | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
That's the truth right there. SC2 community is easily the most biased community i have ever been a part of. | ||
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Hagg
Sweden27 Posts
Naniwa is my favourite player because he wears his heart on his sleeve and cares more than almost any other player. He is willing to work extremely hard, and when he fails, sometimes he has a hard time dealing with it. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:59 grobo wrote: People are just hating because it's me who did it. That's the truth right there. SC2 community is easily the most biased community i have ever been a part of. Yeah, just like a rapist who got out of jail decides to go rape again gets a more severe punishment than a first time offender. Such an unfair system! | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
HuK mothership rushes in a game that actually mattered but it was the best thing ever because he wasn't hated and said some one-liner about Halo. Stephano has a fanatic fanbase so his games against BratOK are forgotten from Assembly and the games mentioned already in the OP. IdrA forfeits all his games in IPL Pool Stage with money at stake and people paying to see him play and attending that day just to see him play. Again, there are not 50 threads/blogs about it. It seems people just want to hate on NaNi for his past mistakes, rather than taking his present actions at face value. This includes the Korean teams and players. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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reapsen
Germany559 Posts
This sentence makes no sense whatsoever. Because that's exactly what he did!! | ||
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kmpow
Sweden15 Posts
Progamers are not media profiles beyond their performances and if there's nothing on the line I cannot see the point. Seeing how Idra threw the placement match at MLG Providence against Haypro, I cannot understand the blind rage at least there were money and an actual placement in top 10 at the stake. If there is some sort of Korean cultural thing, well welcome to the international world. Can't call their tournament Global if they cannot cope with varying attitude from a global perspective. As a fan I cannot care anyways, as nothing was lost and the grudge between them is just a bunch of community-driven bollocks. Of course this is my biased perspective as a fan. I can admit to always become annoyed at Idra's rage but I still see no balance excuses from Nani, he is only disappointed in his own performances, which he should be as a professional. | ||
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Grettin
42412 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:59 Hagg wrote: Give him a break, those losses were heartbreaking and that game had no implication for anyone in the group, as he says himself this wasnt much different from a 4gate. But yet the 4 gate would have saved him from all this shitfest. Theres the difference. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:57 Itsmedudeman wrote: Because fans would still want to watch the game....? Meaningless game or not for the tournament, it had a storyline to it. People would have been upset for sure if they didn't have them play the match for pride's sake. Also, "people are upset just because it's me that did it". Yes, no shit. Repeat offenders don't get off with the same punishment as first time offenders. This is like the 20th time in his career that something like this is happened. I would argue its a case by case scenario. The punishment isn't always the same. Johan receives a lot more attention compared to other gamers (repeat offender, yup it comes to fruition in this case). Greg is in a similar category as Johan yet they are treated different. | ||
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mstrkrft
Austria10 Posts
Stop whining about a game no one cares about. Naniwa can do whatever he wants to do. Worker Rush is a viable option for a useless game, i wouldnt have played the game at all.... stupid BO1 group stage. Well done GomTV, well done...... | ||
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Zaxon
Belgium209 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:56 Kommander wrote: I don't mean to throw gas into the fire but could someone translate this? Google translate is unreliable and I would really like to know what the BossToss himself thinks of the situation. 나니와가 화이트라 아저씨를 보고 좀 마인드를 바꿨으면 좋겠다. 상대방 생각도안하고 그런식의 행동은 올바르지 않다고생각한다. 만약 내가 3승0패 1위진출확정이고 나니와가 0승3패인데 난 어차피 1위니까 너랑 게임 안해라고 하고 시작하자마자 gg치면 Edit: from MC's twitter dont try google translation its freaking sad :D | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On December 14 2011 00:00 Itsmedudeman wrote: Yeah, just like a rapist who got out of jail decides to go rape again gets a more severe punishment than a first time offender. Such an unfair system! No. It's more like a rapist gets out of jail and helps a woman pick up some groceries and gets arrested for sexual assault. | ||
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
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