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Thought some Chinese member is going to translate it yesterday but there isn't. Not to mention that the Chinese SC2 players need some love!
Link to the interview (In Chinese): http://sc2.plu.cn/interviews/2011-12-10/37217.html
Xigua's interview from a Chinese magazine named "E-sports" after his RO4 win against Titan
^ lol I thought it was a Jesus pose
"E-sports": Please summarize your path to the finals iG.Xigua: I had a ZvZ in the round of 16, a ZvZ against F91 in the Round of 8, and a ZvP in the semi-finals. My first series was the toughest one, I've made many mistakes but my opponent made even more mistakes and allowed me to comeback. I also struggled a little against F91, because F91 is such a skilled player. I was able to take the series by exerting my full potential and some luck. In my final series against the Protoss. He went for a 1 gas expand, which is extremely vulrenable to Zergling rush but rewards him with an economic advantage, I rushed him and took the first game. In game 2, he went for the exact opening in game 1. I realized that he's not going to make the same mistake twice so I went for a macro game instead. After I found out that he's taking third base with Stalkers and Immortals, I went for a timing attack with Roaches, Zerglings and Banelings and took him out.
"E-sports": You are playing against MVP tomorrow, what are your thoughts? iG.Xigua: To be honest, my ZvT still has some flaws that needs to fixed. However I've thought of facing MVP ever since the first day since I have to prepare against Korean Terrans for this event. I just didn't expect the other two to be eliminated and that I have to face a Korean Terran in the finals. As for MVP, I've prepared some special strategies against him so I'll do my best!
"E-sports": You have never lost a single game on your way to the finals. What are the reasons behind it? iG.Xigua: I think that I'm in a good shape at the moment. I also play better in offline tournaments and get nervous in online tournaments. I can't even explain why. I'm never nervous in offline events because I'm not happy until I win the event.
"E-sports": Xiaose (Chinese commentator of NeoTV, the channel that braodcasts GSL in China) said that you play about 80 games per day and that you have a smurf account that's ranked #1 in the Korean server. Is that true? iG.Xigua: 80 games is a bit too much, that will be kind of ridiculous (laughs), I play between 40-60 games per day in average and 80 games maximum. I also do have a smurf account and it's currently ranked top 20 in the Korean ladder
"E-sports": Chinese players have performed pretty well at this event, what are the reasons? iG.Xigua: I think maps are a huge factor, Map pools in Chinese tournaments are very weird. Since we've never played on IEM and MLG maps we end up losing a lot in these maps. However WCG map pool has many comon ladder maps such as Metalopolis. I also feel that that the 3 qualifiying players from China are offline-type players.
"E-sports": Are the western (European and American) players as strong as you expected? iG.Xigua: To be honest, I never expected them to be that strong. Deep down from my heart, I do think there's a skill gap between Western players and Chinese players (PS:he's implying that Europeans+Americans are better). I am extremely impressed by their skills this event, and they also have a different understanding of the game.
"E-sports": Sky lost his match today, does that affect you at all? What do you have to say about it? iG.Xigua: Not really, I however feel pity for Sky since he's only 1 game away from his third title.
"E-sports": Shoutout for the finals. iG.Xigua: I'll display my full strength!
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I can't really think of a scarier SC2 situation than to be up against MVP in internationally watched finals. Good luck to Xigua, but I honestly don't see him winning this.
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Interesting read, but how does
PS:he's implying that Europeans+Americans are better
fit in with
To be honest, I never expected them to be that strong.
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Watermelon Zerg fighting!
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He's probably going to end up being tank fodder but I would love to see him challenge MVP enough to create some entertaining matches at least.
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Nice to read that his games Vs Snute weren't completely one sided
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On December 11 2011 09:34 shuurai wrote:Interesting read, but how does fit in with ? Train of thought. He says he didn't expect them to be this good, but having now seen them in action at WCG, he thinks that they're better than Chinese players.
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Honestly, I'm expecting 2x rushes roach/ling/baneling if he says that. Also interesting, but it seems like chinese and foreigners are separated so we have western, china, and korea as the 3 divisions of sc2.
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On December 11 2011 09:39 Itsmedudeman wrote: Honestly, I'm expecting 2x rushes roach/ling/baneling if he says that. Also interesting, but it seems like chinese and foreigners are separated so we have western, china, and korea as the 3 divisions of sc2.
That's funny. In BW, the scene was split into foreigner, Chinese, and Korean.
I still remember the thread debating "Are Chinese foreigners?" and Tastosis and Idra agreeing in some random interview video that Chinese don't count as foreigners.
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Thanks for the translation. Fascinating that Xigua gets nervous at online events but not live events. I think he's the first progamer I've ever heard to actually say that. Hopefully Xigua, and to a lesser extent F91 and Macsed, having success will help SC2's popularity in China. Hopefully now that people know who he is Xigua can get some more invites to international tournaments.
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Getting invited to tournaments is one thing, getting visas to attend those tournaments is another.
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I love watermelons, therefor I love this guy.
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All I'm gonna say on watermelon zergs is that the last one got a golden mouse so if xigua wins this the conclusion is clear, the secret to zerg is not macro, it's not control, it's not game plan it's how much can you link yourselves to watermelons.
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![[image loading]](http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5txo9lJcvYHty2Ds6fry7iqprMeFHF0xRtTi0ngeP9nZBEaquCPfw6Iyw)
Son, I am proud
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Wait, is the account that google translates to Pringles (프링글스) him? If so, that's super impressive. He's been hovering around the top of the Korean ladder forever O_O Maybe he can actually show a good finals against MVP.
On December 11 2011 09:39 Itsmedudeman wrote: Honestly, I'm expecting 2x rushes roach/ling/baneling if he says that. Also interesting, but it seems like chinese and foreigners are separated so we have western, china, and korea as the 3 divisions of sc2. That's pretty rash, you can't get to the top of the Korean ladder with straight up all-ins. I'd expect some nice timing attacks (that transition) instead.
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On December 11 2011 10:03 Jehct wrote: Wait, is the account that google translates to Pringles (프링글스) him? If so, that's super impressive. He's been hovering around the top of the Korean ladder forever O_O Maybe he can actually show a good finals against MVP. For some reason I'd always thought that was July's account.
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On December 11 2011 10:04 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 10:03 Jehct wrote: Wait, is the account that google translates to Pringles (프링글스) him? If so, that's super impressive. He's been hovering around the top of the Korean ladder forever O_O Maybe he can actually show a good finals against MVP. For some reason I'd always thought that was July's account. I don't think July has ever showed a playstyle consistent enough to top ladders. He's got sick BoX play but I don't think his standard is DRG level (which the Pringles account has had a similar winrate/ranking to). Ladder is ladder, though.
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On December 11 2011 09:42 red4ce wrote: Thanks for the translation. Fascinating that Xigua gets nervous at online events but not live events. I think he's the first progamer I've ever heard to actually say that. Hopefully Xigua, and to a lesser extent F91 and Macsed, having success will help SC2's popularity in China. Hopefully now that people know who he is Xigua can get some more invites to international tournaments. This. Would be awesome to see him in more international tournaments. Let's hope he gets his Visa stuff sorted.
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I love the Fonzie pose in the TC's post
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On December 11 2011 10:06 Jehct wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 10:04 babylon wrote:On December 11 2011 10:03 Jehct wrote: Wait, is the account that google translates to Pringles (프링글스) him? If so, that's super impressive. He's been hovering around the top of the Korean ladder forever O_O Maybe he can actually show a good finals against MVP. For some reason I'd always thought that was July's account. I don't think July has ever showed a playstyle consistent enough to top ladders. He's got sick BoX play but I don't think his standard is DRG level (which the Pringles account has had a similar winrate/ranking to). Ladder is ladder, though.
It's probably his I guess, there aren't any zergs in the top 20 that I don't recognize other than 'Pringles'
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He thinks Chinese players perform poorly because lack of familiarity with the tourney maps....hmmmm
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On December 11 2011 09:34 shuurai wrote:Interesting read, but how does fit in with ?
I am confused by this as well. Either way, I'm cheering for XiGua! My fav. fruit of course
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Thanks ppshchik! TL needs more Chinese scene coverage
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Awesome interview. Really excited for the finals and rooting for Xigua!
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On December 11 2011 10:51 LXR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 09:34 shuurai wrote:Interesting read, but how does PS:he's implying that Europeans+Americans are better fit in with To be honest, I never expected them to be that strong. ? I am confused by this as well. Either way, I'm cheering for XiGua! My fav. fruit of course There's no contradiction. He thinks EU/NA players are better than Chinese players in general, but didn't expect them to be that strong.
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On December 11 2011 10:01 Chairman Ray wrote:![[image loading]](http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5txo9lJcvYHty2Ds6fry7iqprMeFHF0xRtTi0ngeP9nZBEaquCPfw6Iyw) Son, I am proud what's this image from?
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Thanks for the interview. Haven't heard of XiGua until WCG and he's really impressed me so far. Hope this will be a good finals!
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Lets go Xigua, show what you can do!
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There's no way he's ranked top 20 in the Korea ladder, because all you do is turtle 3bases with Mech or Protoss and push him and he instant dies. Really don't like him at all, nor do I think he deserves to be in the finals.
Also Pringles is DRG not XiGua or July.
Edit - In fact any time I ever ran into him he was 50% ladder and just all-in's roach/ling/baneling shenanigans.
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"E-sports": Are the western (European and American) players as strong as you expected? iG.Xigua: To be honest, I never expected them to be that strong. Deep down from my heart, I do think there's a skill gap between Western players and Chinese players (PS:he's implying that Europeans+Americans are better). I am extremely impressed by their skills this event, and they also have a different understanding of the game.
I speak Chinese and I've read the original interview and I assure you that this part is incorrectly translated. The part in the parenthesis should be him implying (in his thoughts) that EU+AM players are weaker than the Chinese players. In Chinese, when you say 'there is a difference/skill gap between the X and Y players' it actually means X < Y, and in this case in his interview X=EU+AM and Y=CN.
This is by no means my opinion. I'm just trying to translate the interview answer correctly.
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On December 11 2011 11:51 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 10:51 LXR wrote:On December 11 2011 09:34 shuurai wrote:Interesting read, but how does PS:he's implying that Europeans+Americans are better fit in with To be honest, I never expected them to be that strong. ? I am confused by this as well. Either way, I'm cheering for XiGua! My fav. fruit of course There's no contradiction. He thinks EU/NA players are better than Chinese players in general, but didn't expect them to be that strong.
I think the OP's translation is off on this part. Strictly grammatically speaking, what he wrote can be interpreted either way, He said that a gap (difference in skill) exists between the Europe/America and China without clarifying which side is on the better end of the gap but generally if he wants to say that Europe/America are better, he will say that Europe/America have an advantage, most Chinese(Mainland at least) would infer from context and history (brood war) that he meant China is better.
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On December 11 2011 13:38 lastshadow wrote: There's no way he's ranked top 20 in the Korea ladder, because all you do is turtle 3bases with Mech or Protoss and push him and he instant dies. Really don't like him at all, nor do I think he deserves to be in the finals.
Also Pringles is DRG not XiGua or July.
Edit - In fact any time I ever ran into him he was 50% ladder and just all-in's roach/ling/baneling shenanigans.
I'm so glad that we live in a world where tournaments run on the basis of "which player do most people think deserves to be in the finals", and placing the player with the highest votes in the final.
Instead of, you know, letting them compete for a spot. That would obviously get underserving player like Xigua into the finals just because he's winning games.
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He deserves it in a bo1 format coped with a bo3 format later on, over people like IdrA, Huk, SuperNova, Marineking, ToD, etc? His run of opponents was laughable and his style itself is what saved him in the bo1 groupstages.
EDIT - To further elaborate all chinese players had a super advantage in this tournament (bo1/bo3) because they're completely unknown for the most part (style/playwise) and the way they were all playing except for MacSed was super abusive. Out of the few people I've talked to only a few knew XiGua as the super all-in Zerg I described him as before, if this isn't an abusive advantage that was only propelled by WCG's shitty system this year, idk what is.
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Btw, the correct translation is: I never knew they were this good. I originally thought there is a skill gap between Foreign players and Chinese players (In this case, "there is a gap" is a phrase in China that means the former is inferior to the latter. Therefore he meant that he thought foreign players aren't as good as Chinese players).
To be honest though, I don't really know where he got the confidence, because Chinese pro scenenis the most isolated community of all, much more so than the Korean one. And they don't have much chance to compete with foreign players at all. Most players don't participate because logistic reasons, and the fact that their sponsors dont care about foreign exposure.
Most Chinese pros practice on KR servers though, I know several of them having GM accounts in KR server. With that kind of practice and playing full time, it is only reasonable that they have someone on the level of Idra/Huk.
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I think it was from BW, where it was correct to say that China was better (if only slightly) than the West.
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On December 11 2011 14:00 lastshadow wrote: He deserves it in a bo1 format coped with a bo3 format later on, over people like IdrA, Huk, SuperNova, Marineking, ToD, etc? His run of opponents was laughable and his style itself is what saved him in the bo1 groupstages.
EDIT - To further elaborate all chinese players had a super advantage in this tournament (bo1/bo3) because they're completely unknown for the most part (style/playwise) and the way they were all playing except for MacSed was super abusive. Out of the few people I've talked to only a few knew XiGua as the super all-in Zerg I described him as before, if this isn't an abusive advantage that was only propelled by WCG's shitty system this year, idk what is.
U have no idea at all.
ANyone who have seen Xigua play in tournaments before would know that hes gonna do very well at WCG. If he gets the same chance like your NA idols Idra and Huk, he`ll probably post better results than them.
So stop being such a freaking fan boy and get butthurt cos the players ur rooting for crash out early. If its true that uve been speaking to ppl who knew Xigua, they obviously arent very smart judging for the information they gave you. As far as i know the communities in TW, CN and SEA seems to agree that he would have no trouble making it outta his group and go far in this tournament regardless of the format.
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On December 11 2011 13:38 lastshadow wrote: There's no way he's ranked top 20 in the Korea ladder, because all you do is turtle 3bases with Mech or Protoss and push him and he instant dies. Really don't like him at all, nor do I think he deserves to be in the finals.
Also Pringles is DRG not XiGua or July.
Edit - In fact any time I ever ran into him he was 50% ladder and just all-in's roach/ling/baneling shenanigans. So those two top Zerg accounts in Korean GM (Pringles and DongRaeGuProS) are both DRG?
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On December 11 2011 14:00 lastshadow wrote: He deserves it in a bo1 format coped with a bo3 format later on, over people like IdrA, Huk, SuperNova, Marineking, ToD, etc? His run of opponents was laughable and his style itself is what saved him in the bo1 groupstages.
EDIT - To further elaborate all chinese players had a super advantage in this tournament (bo1/bo3) because they're completely unknown for the most part (style/playwise) and the way they were all playing except for MacSed was super abusive. Out of the few people I've talked to only a few knew XiGua as the super all-in Zerg I described him as before, if this isn't an abusive advantage that was only propelled by WCG's shitty system this year, idk what is.
You have no idea what you are talking about and you show zero respect to XiGua's opponents. Kas beat Huk and MKP, Titan beat Supernova and they are laughable? And it's not up to you to decide who deserves to be in the final.
Plus, laddering doesn't mean anything at all, I watched XiGua's matches against Kas, Happy, Titan and MVP, there is no "all-in" as you described. If you are implying you are better than XiGua, prove yourself in some major tournaments and get top 3, you have been in Korea for months, I wish to see you get paid for your effort (if any), seriously.
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Abusive Chinese Zergs? is that some kinda of secret or something? lol
Chinese Zergs have being known to be abusive since BW days....
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