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Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
December 10 2011 17:26 GMT
#61
I honestly don't see how anyone can be 'the best player in the world' without winning the highest level tournament out there, which is the GSL. Someone write an article explaining that please.
eric237
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada40 Posts
December 10 2011 17:26 GMT
#62
Shouldn't he have won every single tournament he got into if he was the best or at least placed top 3? Good trolling, OP.
Warcloud
Profile Joined May 2010
United States97 Posts
December 10 2011 17:27 GMT
#63
This was a terrible post, not just because I entirely disagree, but because there is not a single piece of evidence supporting the outrageous claim with the exception of him beating a bunch of b-level koreans in IPL. You just kind of vaguely say that he has a ton of talent.

Honestly, not to flame, but if anybody thinks that Stephano is the best player in the world then you obviously don't even know what you're watching for when you're making that determination. Not only does he not have the results to prove it, but in my opinion from watching his games it seems like he's miles behind a lot of other top players in terms of multitasking, drone/aggression timings, and decision-making. I'm not even going to list examples of people better than him and why because the list would be like 70 players long.
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
December 10 2011 17:27 GMT
#64
On December 11 2011 01:56 LiquidFahq wrote:
At the end of it call Stephano decisively eliminated the following Koreans from his path:
FXO_Lucky (4-0 in the finals)
Ogs_TheSTC
FXO_Inori
MVP_Violet
Slayers_Boxer
Slayers_MMA


Huh?

Stephano beat KiwiKaki, Violet (Code A), Inori (Code B), TheSTC(Code B) and Lucky (Code A).
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
Ghrimnar
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany260 Posts
December 10 2011 17:27 GMT
#65
On December 11 2011 02:22 HappyChris wrote:

The last week has been so incredible if you followed Stephano. Just after 1 week he is improving insanely fast. His french coaches sayd he has gained 100 apm thats crazy.



At least. If not 300. Just by laddering on the korean server! -.-
oGsMC // NSHS_Sage // IMMvp // IMNesTea
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
December 10 2011 17:27 GMT
#66
On December 11 2011 02:24 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 02:22 jj33 wrote:
korean pros don't take ladder seriously.

they use it to practice random stuff.

Stephano is talented yes, but so are many other pros, he's not the best player in the world.

Nobody is a super clear best in the world in sc2. that's reserved truly dominant players like flash/jd.


MVP and Nestea... Best in the world, I think anyone will agree.



they are among the best.

but they aren't super dominant lke JD/flash.

do you follow bw?

they are nowhere near the dominance that flash has shown.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
December 10 2011 17:27 GMT
#67
On December 11 2011 02:24 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 02:22 jj33 wrote:
korean pros don't take ladder seriously.

they use it to practice random stuff.

Stephano is talented yes, but so are many other pros, he's not the best player in the world.

Nobody is a super clear best in the world in sc2. that's reserved truly dominant players like flash/jd.


MVP and Nestea... Best in the world, I think anyone will agree.

Not really MVP is of course one of the best but there is still none 'best player in the world" in sc2. You can't lose against Haypro, or leenock and being the best.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 10 2011 17:27 GMT
#68
On December 11 2011 02:25 JohnMatrix wrote:
Its a pretty biased statment yes. hes clearly among the top 20 players in the world but thats all. you should watch how jjajki crush him 3 games in a row on his ladders sessions.


Yeps that was brutal jjajki is the one to watch is actually the only pro korean terran I seen Stephano got problems with
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
December 10 2011 17:28 GMT
#69
oh to the OP.

the talent level in bw is still way higher than sc2. i mean way higher.
Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
December 10 2011 17:28 GMT
#70
On December 11 2011 02:26 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
I am not the biggest Stephano fan but if people say that koreans don't take ladder seriously why are there so few foreigners who can even get to grandmasters or high grandmasters?


i doubt most players play optimally, every game. that's enough to say they don't take ladder seriously. even though not optimal their less optimal play style can be viable especially with their game mechanics. that still makes them hard to beat.
These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
dre2k
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands215 Posts
December 10 2011 17:28 GMT
#71
On December 11 2011 02:25 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 02:19 dre2k wrote:
big openingpost with a load of crap, idra > stephano


I'd say Stephano is already better than IdrA, he just hasn't had the tournaments to show it since he hasn't been in many.

i'd say that isn't true, see what i did there?
TimeRunnerS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Denmark164 Posts
December 10 2011 17:28 GMT
#72
Amen.
''OWN THOS SCRABNUBS!'' Athene - best gamer in the world
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
December 10 2011 17:28 GMT
#73
He's a good player, but lets not get too hasty and call him the best player...It's like those b-word discussions all over again
Veclada
Profile Joined September 2010
742 Posts
December 10 2011 17:29 GMT
#74
He got outmacroed by Boxer at MLG, manhandled by sheth in ZvZ at DHW and went 1-6 in his grp at the same event. He isent untouchable
asdfg
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
December 10 2011 17:29 GMT
#75
On December 11 2011 02:27 Jackle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 01:56 LiquidFahq wrote:
At the end of it call Stephano decisively eliminated the following Koreans from his path:
FXO_Lucky (4-0 in the finals)
Ogs_TheSTC
FXO_Inori
MVP_Violet
Slayers_Boxer
Slayers_MMA


Huh?

Stephano beat KiwiKaki, Violet (Code A), Inori (Code B), TheSTC(Code B) and Lucky (Code A).


He included the qualifiers.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
December 10 2011 17:29 GMT
#76
He's a good player but he's not the best player in the world. Him beating some Koreans on the ladder doesn't mean anything.
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
December 10 2011 17:30 GMT
#77
On December 11 2011 02:27 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 02:24 GreEny K wrote:
On December 11 2011 02:22 jj33 wrote:
korean pros don't take ladder seriously.

they use it to practice random stuff.

Stephano is talented yes, but so are many other pros, he's not the best player in the world.

Nobody is a super clear best in the world in sc2. that's reserved truly dominant players like flash/jd.


MVP and Nestea... Best in the world, I think anyone will agree.

Not really MVP is of course one of the best but there is still none 'best player in the world" in sc2. You can't lose against Haypro, or leenock and being the best.


Just because he can't win everything doesn't mean he's not the best player in the world :/ (oh and he never got beaten by haypro)
JonB
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden325 Posts
December 10 2011 17:30 GMT
#78
even though its well written, I think saying that Stephano is the BEST player in the WORLD is a really bold statement.
hacker and programmer - the2me4u on skype
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
December 10 2011 17:30 GMT
#79
On December 11 2011 02:27 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 02:24 GreEny K wrote:
On December 11 2011 02:22 jj33 wrote:
korean pros don't take ladder seriously.

they use it to practice random stuff.

Stephano is talented yes, but so are many other pros, he's not the best player in the world.

Nobody is a super clear best in the world in sc2. that's reserved truly dominant players like flash/jd.


MVP and Nestea... Best in the world, I think anyone will agree.

Not really MVP is of course one of the best but there is still none 'best player in the world" in sc2. You can't lose against Haypro, or leenock and being the best.


Lol... Being the best doesn't mean you have to be perfect and never lose at all. What a ridiculous comment.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 17:31:54
December 10 2011 17:31 GMT
#80
On December 11 2011 02:27 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 02:24 GreEny K wrote:
On December 11 2011 02:22 jj33 wrote:
korean pros don't take ladder seriously.

they use it to practice random stuff.

Stephano is talented yes, but so are many other pros, he's not the best player in the world.

Nobody is a super clear best in the world in sc2. that's reserved truly dominant players like flash/jd.


MVP and Nestea... Best in the world, I think anyone will agree.

Not really MVP is of course one of the best but there is still none 'best player in the world" in sc2. You can't lose against Haypro, or leenock and being the best.


I didn't follow Brood War. But you can't seriously tell me that Flash, in his prime, never lost to an inferior opponent?

A player doesn't have to be super dominant to be the best. He just needs to be better than everyone else.

Also the fact that you would use Leenock as an example of a bad player proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
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