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Complexity transfers NaNiwa to Quantic Gaming - Page 32

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BoomNasty
Profile Joined June 2011
United States265 Posts
December 09 2011 00:00 GMT
#621
On December 09 2011 08:59 NKsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 08:53 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:51 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:39 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:37 Sneakyz wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:33 pPingu wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:24 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:24 Namu wrote:
I thought Sase left quantic..


Where did you read that?


Many people just assumed sase would leave qxg because one of the reasons he joined was because of the partnership with a korean team

But since qxg is looking close to startale, no reasons to think about it

On December 09 2011 08:30 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:29 00Visor wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:24 BoomNasty wrote:
[quote]

so calling the tournament a joke while on screen and insulting one of the best players in the world is considered fine? okay buddy

He did not insult Nestea. He called his decisions in one game "idiotic". His comment was completely taken out of context.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286941


"I thought he would do some smart shit.... but apparently he is just an idiot"
Nice source buddy.


I hate when people with no clues just post something like that


lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him...

Yeah and you took it out of context which was the exact reason everyone was pissed off about it, great job. Pretty much every single swede said he meant the drone pull was idiotic right when he said it, and he even comfirmed it himself.


Okay, of course every swede will defend his comments, and he will fix it later as well after he realizes how bad it was. But you can't deny he straight up called Nestea and idiot. Because that is what he said.

You can't deny that IdrA told mana to go fuck himself. Because that is what he said.
You can't deny that IdrA called cruncher a waste of life. Becuase that is what he said.
so biased it hurts.


and I said I don't like his BM.... and he is improving. I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either, but thats not the point.

I will state again, I never said I supported Idra's BM I only said he was getting better.

you're an idiot=bm
fuck you, go fuck yourself, you're a waste of life=not considered bm.
so so biased.


lol okay dude, you can think I am biased even when I said i dont like his BM.
I like..
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
December 09 2011 00:02 GMT
#622
Naniwa gets around. Word of advice: If you plan on getting better stick with one team so you don't have constantly be distracted with team switches
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
milky_muh
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden38 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 00:03:36
December 09 2011 00:03 GMT
#623
When MC does it = funny
when Idra does it = hilarious
when Naniwa does it = bad manners

Seems legit.............
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 01:08:15
December 09 2011 00:03 GMT
#624
On December 09 2011 08:06 eYeball wrote:
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On December 09 2011 07:53 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Do people realize Nestea was trash talking about Naniwa before their MLG Providence match and said he would crush him, to which Naniwa simply gave a thumbs-down after beating him? Come on now, let's not ignore that. No need to randomly bash Naniwa.


NesTea fanbois will come after you now! :D

They'll all post here later with the story, "I used to come after people who don't ignore my favorite player's behavior, but then I took an arrow in the knee."
(Please, no one flame me for mentioning that overused quote from Skyrim . Also I'm not threatening anyone with shooting arrows at their knees in case anyone is taking me seriously. It's just a joke paraphrasing the quote from Skyrim.)
softan
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden113 Posts
December 09 2011 00:03 GMT
#625
On December 09 2011 09:02 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Naniwa gets around. Word of advice: If you plan on getting better stick with one team so you don't have constantly be distracted with team switches


It wasn't his choice. They sold his contract to quantic, they said they did it no matter what naniwa might think of it.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
December 09 2011 00:04 GMT
#626
Naniwa keeps on burning bridges. When his success runs out I'm afraid he'll be a very lonely kid.
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
December 09 2011 00:04 GMT
#627
I have a feeling Quantic knows exactly what they are doing picking up Naniwa. While there is a vocal crowd of people who don't like him he also has an equally large fanbase and in his own awkward way he's marketable. He was fucking awesome on the KSL with Khaldor today, great on TL attack with thorzain and fairly amusing on state of the game. If he and Sase are truly good friends and have good on air or on screen chemistry I see no reason Quantic can't produce little videos of the two of them being swedish brotoss in korea togeather and make it a cute mini series or something or give them a little podcast. Naniwa is not Destiny, he lacks destiny's complete ease infront of a camera and way with words but Naniwa does had an entertaining personality when he's not being formal.

If Quantic can deal with whatever issues it is that seem to affect Nani's ability to function within a team then good for them. They gain an overall consistently high level player who has a loyal following and whom can be an asset to them publically as well if marketed in the correct way.

Hydroxyl
Profile Joined December 2011
206 Posts
December 09 2011 00:05 GMT
#628
On December 09 2011 08:41 WigglingSquid wrote:
I always wonder what could "core values" possibly mean for an esport team…


Complexity is riding on the Naniwa-hate since MLG and uses these words to justify the way they dealt with him only 2 months after contracting him.

With these virtues they say they want to live up to they are just doing PR job which is to try to look like the good and clean side to their hardcore fans and their sponsors, but you could ask yourself where were they when it was all about supporting and taking the fire from their player back when he had to play a finals.

It is not what you could call having double standards, it is just not deserving to be called an esport organisation since their concerns isn't to support their own players.
Blondinbengt
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden578 Posts
December 09 2011 00:05 GMT
#629
On December 09 2011 08:39 BoomNasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 08:37 Sneakyz wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:33 pPingu wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:24 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:24 Namu wrote:
I thought Sase left quantic..


Where did you read that?


Many people just assumed sase would leave qxg because one of the reasons he joined was because of the partnership with a korean team

But since qxg is looking close to startale, no reasons to think about it

On December 09 2011 08:30 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:29 00Visor wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:24 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:22 aintz wrote:
what nani did at mlg is fine. you're required to have thick skin if you are going to do well at anything.

all this talk about bm is just ridiculous.


so calling the tournament a joke while on screen and insulting one of the best players in the world is considered fine? okay buddy

He did not insult Nestea. He called his decisions in one game "idiotic". His comment was completely taken out of context.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286941


"I thought he would do some smart shit.... but apparently he is just an idiot"
Nice source buddy.


I hate when people with no clues just post something like that


lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him...

Yeah and you took it out of context which was the exact reason everyone was pissed off about it, great job. Pretty much every single swede said he meant the drone pull was idiotic right when he said it, and he even comfirmed it himself.


Okay, of course every swede will defend his comments, and he will fix it later as well after he realizes how bad it was. But you can't deny he straight up called Nestea and idiot. Because that is what he said.

I've explained this before in an MLG thread, but the reason why many swedes defended Naniwa after the Nestea comment was that in Swedish saying ''you're an idiot'' (very general translation) is the same as saying ''that was idiotic'', it's simply a case of an expression not being directly translate-able from one language to another.
NKsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden133 Posts
December 09 2011 00:07 GMT
#630
On December 09 2011 09:00 BoomNasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 08:59 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:53 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:51 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:39 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:37 Sneakyz wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:33 pPingu wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:24 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:24 Namu wrote:
I thought Sase left quantic..


Where did you read that?


Many people just assumed sase would leave qxg because one of the reasons he joined was because of the partnership with a korean team

But since qxg is looking close to startale, no reasons to think about it

On December 09 2011 08:30 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:29 00Visor wrote:
[quote]
He did not insult Nestea. He called his decisions in one game "idiotic". His comment was completely taken out of context.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286941


"I thought he would do some smart shit.... but apparently he is just an idiot"
Nice source buddy.


I hate when people with no clues just post something like that


lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him...

Yeah and you took it out of context which was the exact reason everyone was pissed off about it, great job. Pretty much every single swede said he meant the drone pull was idiotic right when he said it, and he even comfirmed it himself.


Okay, of course every swede will defend his comments, and he will fix it later as well after he realizes how bad it was. But you can't deny he straight up called Nestea and idiot. Because that is what he said.

You can't deny that IdrA told mana to go fuck himself. Because that is what he said.
You can't deny that IdrA called cruncher a waste of life. Becuase that is what he said.
so biased it hurts.


and I said I don't like his BM.... and he is improving. I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either, but thats not the point.

I will state again, I never said I supported Idra's BM I only said he was getting better.

you're an idiot=bm
fuck you, go fuck yourself, you're a waste of life=not considered bm.
so so biased.


lol okay dude, you can think I am biased even when I said i dont like his BM.

That's not what I said. Bad reading comperhension. You said "I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either". But calling someone's move idiotic (which is what he did if you have the social ability called "reading between the lines) is horribly BM and should be bashed. And "you can think im biased"- You are biased. You can think the sky is pink aswell, but it's also a fact.
n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
December 09 2011 00:09 GMT
#631
Someone mentioned interesting comments on Slasher's show, so I decided to try and follow this thread, but it's hard to find useful posts, when you actually mind reading useless ones. And 99% of this thread is people calling Nani bm (who for some reason if you read their post history are actually idra fanboys x_X) and people who respond do idiots. This thread is a mess -_-
I guess I can find my info tomorrow ...
Yeah, whatever
BoomNasty
Profile Joined June 2011
United States265 Posts
December 09 2011 00:09 GMT
#632
On December 09 2011 09:07 NKsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 09:00 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:59 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:53 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:51 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:39 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:37 Sneakyz wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:33 pPingu wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:24 Torte de Lini wrote:
[quote]

Where did you read that?


Many people just assumed sase would leave qxg because one of the reasons he joined was because of the partnership with a korean team

But since qxg is looking close to startale, no reasons to think about it

On December 09 2011 08:30 BoomNasty wrote:
[quote]

"I thought he would do some smart shit.... but apparently he is just an idiot"
Nice source buddy.


I hate when people with no clues just post something like that


lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him...

Yeah and you took it out of context which was the exact reason everyone was pissed off about it, great job. Pretty much every single swede said he meant the drone pull was idiotic right when he said it, and he even comfirmed it himself.


Okay, of course every swede will defend his comments, and he will fix it later as well after he realizes how bad it was. But you can't deny he straight up called Nestea and idiot. Because that is what he said.

You can't deny that IdrA told mana to go fuck himself. Because that is what he said.
You can't deny that IdrA called cruncher a waste of life. Becuase that is what he said.
so biased it hurts.


and I said I don't like his BM.... and he is improving. I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either, but thats not the point.

I will state again, I never said I supported Idra's BM I only said he was getting better.

you're an idiot=bm
fuck you, go fuck yourself, you're a waste of life=not considered bm.
so so biased.


lol okay dude, you can think I am biased even when I said i dont like his BM.

That's not what I said. Bad reading comperhension. You said "I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either". But calling someone's move idiotic (which is what he did if you have the social ability called "reading between the lines) is horribly BM and should be bashed. And "you can think im biased"- You are biased. You can think the sky is pink aswell, but it's also a fact.


I said I don't think telling someone to fuck off or what he said is BM. That is my opinion. That is not bias. It would be bias if I was saying that idra's BM is awesome and funny. That, however, I did not say. I have said I dont like idra's BM. how is that bias?
I like..
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
December 09 2011 00:11 GMT
#633
On December 09 2011 09:09 BoomNasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 09:07 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:00 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:59 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:53 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:51 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:39 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:37 Sneakyz wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:33 pPingu wrote:
[quote]

Many people just assumed sase would leave qxg because one of the reasons he joined was because of the partnership with a korean team

But since qxg is looking close to startale, no reasons to think about it

[quote]

I hate when people with no clues just post something like that


lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him...

Yeah and you took it out of context which was the exact reason everyone was pissed off about it, great job. Pretty much every single swede said he meant the drone pull was idiotic right when he said it, and he even comfirmed it himself.


Okay, of course every swede will defend his comments, and he will fix it later as well after he realizes how bad it was. But you can't deny he straight up called Nestea and idiot. Because that is what he said.

You can't deny that IdrA told mana to go fuck himself. Because that is what he said.
You can't deny that IdrA called cruncher a waste of life. Becuase that is what he said.
so biased it hurts.


and I said I don't like his BM.... and he is improving. I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either, but thats not the point.

I will state again, I never said I supported Idra's BM I only said he was getting better.

you're an idiot=bm
fuck you, go fuck yourself, you're a waste of life=not considered bm.
so so biased.


lol okay dude, you can think I am biased even when I said i dont like his BM.

That's not what I said. Bad reading comperhension. You said "I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either". But calling someone's move idiotic (which is what he did if you have the social ability called "reading between the lines) is horribly BM and should be bashed. And "you can think im biased"- You are biased. You can think the sky is pink aswell, but it's also a fact.


I said I don't think telling someone to fuck off or what he said is BM. That is my opinion. That is not bias. It would be bias if I was saying that idra's BM is awesome and funny. That, however, I did not say. I have said I dont like idra's BM. how is that bias?

I don't see how telling someone to "go fuck yourself" or saying that they're "a waste of life" can't be seen as hurtful if you're not close buddies or something. Especially the latter. o__O
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
December 09 2011 00:12 GMT
#634
WE LOVE YOU ANYWHERE YOU GO NANI. <3<3<3
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
December 09 2011 00:13 GMT
#635
I'm surprised. What NaNi says makes sense thought. I wish teams would give clear, concise reasons players leave their teams-- I guess it's not up to them to talk though. There could have been a lot of drama over this. I'm glad there wasn't.
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
NKsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden133 Posts
December 09 2011 00:13 GMT
#636
On December 09 2011 09:09 BoomNasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 09:07 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:00 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:59 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:53 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:51 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:39 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:37 Sneakyz wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:33 pPingu wrote:
[quote]

Many people just assumed sase would leave qxg because one of the reasons he joined was because of the partnership with a korean team

But since qxg is looking close to startale, no reasons to think about it

[quote]

I hate when people with no clues just post something like that


lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him...

Yeah and you took it out of context which was the exact reason everyone was pissed off about it, great job. Pretty much every single swede said he meant the drone pull was idiotic right when he said it, and he even comfirmed it himself.


Okay, of course every swede will defend his comments, and he will fix it later as well after he realizes how bad it was. But you can't deny he straight up called Nestea and idiot. Because that is what he said.

You can't deny that IdrA told mana to go fuck himself. Because that is what he said.
You can't deny that IdrA called cruncher a waste of life. Becuase that is what he said.
so biased it hurts.


and I said I don't like his BM.... and he is improving. I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either, but thats not the point.

I will state again, I never said I supported Idra's BM I only said he was getting better.

you're an idiot=bm
fuck you, go fuck yourself, you're a waste of life=not considered bm.
so so biased.


lol okay dude, you can think I am biased even when I said i dont like his BM.

That's not what I said. Bad reading comperhension. You said "I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either". But calling someone's move idiotic (which is what he did if you have the social ability called "reading between the lines) is horribly BM and should be bashed. And "you can think im biased"- You are biased. You can think the sky is pink aswell, but it's also a fact.


I said I don't think telling someone to fuck off or what he said is BM. That is my opinion. That is not bias. It would be bias if I was saying that idra's BM is awesome and funny. That, however, I did not say. I have said I dont like idra's BM. how is that bias?

Idk. I disagree. I think saying "you're a waste of life/go fuck yourself/fuck you is not BM. Calling someone's move idiotic is super BM tho". Just saying, by definition you ARE biased that's all I can say. *USA! USA!*
BoomNasty
Profile Joined June 2011
United States265 Posts
December 09 2011 00:13 GMT
#637
On December 09 2011 09:11 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 09:09 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:07 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:00 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:59 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:53 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:51 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:39 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:37 Sneakyz wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:
[quote]

lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him...

Yeah and you took it out of context which was the exact reason everyone was pissed off about it, great job. Pretty much every single swede said he meant the drone pull was idiotic right when he said it, and he even comfirmed it himself.


Okay, of course every swede will defend his comments, and he will fix it later as well after he realizes how bad it was. But you can't deny he straight up called Nestea and idiot. Because that is what he said.

You can't deny that IdrA told mana to go fuck himself. Because that is what he said.
You can't deny that IdrA called cruncher a waste of life. Becuase that is what he said.
so biased it hurts.


and I said I don't like his BM.... and he is improving. I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either, but thats not the point.

I will state again, I never said I supported Idra's BM I only said he was getting better.

you're an idiot=bm
fuck you, go fuck yourself, you're a waste of life=not considered bm.
so so biased.


lol okay dude, you can think I am biased even when I said i dont like his BM.

That's not what I said. Bad reading comperhension. You said "I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either". But calling someone's move idiotic (which is what he did if you have the social ability called "reading between the lines) is horribly BM and should be bashed. And "you can think im biased"- You are biased. You can think the sky is pink aswell, but it's also a fact.


I said I don't think telling someone to fuck off or what he said is BM. That is my opinion. That is not bias. It would be bias if I was saying that idra's BM is awesome and funny. That, however, I did not say. I have said I dont like idra's BM. how is that bias?

I don't see how telling someone to "go fuck yourself" or saying that they're "a waste of life" can't be seen as hurtful if you're not close buddies or something. Especially the latter. o__O


you are arguing over my opinion. you are going to get no where on this. i never said calling someone a waste of life is not BM, because it is rude. Telling someone to fuck off could be just said out of frustration because the person is annoying you and what not. It is not as direct as calling someone a waste of life.
I like..
BoomNasty
Profile Joined June 2011
United States265 Posts
December 09 2011 00:14 GMT
#638
On December 09 2011 09:13 NKsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 09:09 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:07 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:00 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:59 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:53 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:51 NKsc2 wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:39 BoomNasty wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:37 Sneakyz wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:
[quote]

lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him...

Yeah and you took it out of context which was the exact reason everyone was pissed off about it, great job. Pretty much every single swede said he meant the drone pull was idiotic right when he said it, and he even comfirmed it himself.


Okay, of course every swede will defend his comments, and he will fix it later as well after he realizes how bad it was. But you can't deny he straight up called Nestea and idiot. Because that is what he said.

You can't deny that IdrA told mana to go fuck himself. Because that is what he said.
You can't deny that IdrA called cruncher a waste of life. Becuase that is what he said.
so biased it hurts.


and I said I don't like his BM.... and he is improving. I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either, but thats not the point.

I will state again, I never said I supported Idra's BM I only said he was getting better.

you're an idiot=bm
fuck you, go fuck yourself, you're a waste of life=not considered bm.
so so biased.


lol okay dude, you can think I am biased even when I said i dont like his BM.

That's not what I said. Bad reading comperhension. You said "I don't really considering telling someone to fuck off as BM either". But calling someone's move idiotic (which is what he did if you have the social ability called "reading between the lines) is horribly BM and should be bashed. And "you can think im biased"- You are biased. You can think the sky is pink aswell, but it's also a fact.


I said I don't think telling someone to fuck off or what he said is BM. That is my opinion. That is not bias. It would be bias if I was saying that idra's BM is awesome and funny. That, however, I did not say. I have said I dont like idra's BM. how is that bias?

Idk. I disagree. I think saying "you're a waste of life/go fuck yourself/fuck you is not BM. Calling someone's move idiotic is super BM tho". Just saying, by definition you ARE biased that's all I can say. *USA! USA!*


Lol....? Have I supported anyone in this at all? No, so I can't be biased.
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TemujinGK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States483 Posts
December 09 2011 00:14 GMT
#639
I wonder why NaniWa doesn't fit with any team thus far. I know in wc3 he had some problems/ was kicked out of his house for gaming which is sad TT. I hope he isn't abrasive towards his team mates. Probably just a misunderstanding? Sigh...

GL to all those involved.
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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
December 09 2011 00:14 GMT
#640
what exactly are these "core values" of col because isn't that why destiny left too?

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