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On December 09 2011 08:27 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:
I can't tell you how many times I've seen a professional player (in all kinds of different sports) call SPECIFIC refs, casters, coaches, games, leagues, etc. a joke.
Who cares? It's not like this is preschool happy time. It's a professional sport. You're lucky you don't have two guys fighting in the center of the room because one of them "was talking smack yo!"
And they get shit for that from some fans. I don't know why you are so surprised :\
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On December 09 2011 08:31 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:Why not? What if the tournament is a joke? You REALLY should avoid watching football. (also, FTR, I've heard fan-favorite "Tastosis" make worse comments about players while they were casting)
And you know what happens if players insult or make snide comments about officiating post game? They get fined by the commissioner.
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On December 09 2011 08:31 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:Why not? What if the tournament is a joke? You REALLY should avoid watching football. (also, FTR, I've heard fan-favorite "Tastosis" make worse comments about players while they were casting)
Sure maybe not ever, I probably should not have said that, but MLG is not a joke tournament, you should not insult them. They do a lot for Starcraft.
And yea, people get fined in sports for rude comments to officials and such.
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On December 09 2011 08:33 pPingu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:24 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 Namu wrote:
I thought Sase left quantic.. Where did you read that? Many people just assumed sase would leave qxg because one of the reasons he joined was because of the partnership with a korean team But since qxg is looking close to startale, no reasons to think about it Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:30 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:29 00Visor wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:22 aintz wrote:
what nani did at mlg is fine. you're required to have thick skin if you are going to do well at anything.
all this talk about bm is just ridiculous. so calling the tournament a joke while on screen and insulting one of the best players in the world is considered fine? okay buddy He did not insult Nestea. He called his decisions in one game "idiotic". His comment was completely taken out of context. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286941 "I thought he would do some smart shit.... but apparently he is just an idiot" Nice source buddy. I hate when people with no clues just post something like that
lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him...
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On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:33 pPingu wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 Namu wrote:
I thought Sase left quantic.. Where did you read that? Many people just assumed sase would leave qxg because one of the reasons he joined was because of the partnership with a korean team But since qxg is looking close to startale, no reasons to think about it On December 09 2011 08:30 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:29 00Visor wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:22 aintz wrote:
what nani did at mlg is fine. you're required to have thick skin if you are going to do well at anything.
all this talk about bm is just ridiculous. so calling the tournament a joke while on screen and insulting one of the best players in the world is considered fine? okay buddy He did not insult Nestea. He called his decisions in one game "idiotic". His comment was completely taken out of context. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286941 "I thought he would do some smart shit.... but apparently he is just an idiot" Nice source buddy. I hate when people with no clues just post something like that lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him...
Yeah and you took it out of context which was the exact reason everyone was pissed off about it, great job. Pretty much every single swede said he meant the drone pull was idiotic right when he said it, and he even comfirmed it himself.
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Yeah, they get crap for it, but again, I'm always like: "Who cares?" Are we not adults here? Is this not a professional sport (game if you prefer)? I just don't get the "OMG MY VIRGIN EARS! HE CALLED SOMEONE AN IDIOT!!!!" attitude.
And you know what happens if players insult or make snide comments about officiating post game? They get fined by the commissioner.
Not really. I've seen coaches straight up ask a ref if he's retarded or if he really is in the other team's pocket. It's a professional sport, people are gonna get fired up, people are gonna talk smack, personalities will clash. This may sound harsh but everyone needs to get the fuck over it and grow up.
edit: And it's way worse with player on player. You know why they rarely let you hear what the two teams are saying too each other? It's because you can't put those words on the television or you'll get fined by the FCC...
Fight breaks out in an NFL game? Flags fly, couple of penalty yards. Coaches screaming, fans screaming. Everyone gets over it and moves on...
Kid calls a tournament a joke (which EVERY athlete has done at least once in his life) and says someone else did something idiotic, and it seems like it's the end of the world for some of you... I just find it kind of funny. I bet y'all care more than NesTea or MLG...
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On December 09 2011 08:37 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:33 pPingu wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 Namu wrote:
I thought Sase left quantic.. Where did you read that? Many people just assumed sase would leave qxg because one of the reasons he joined was because of the partnership with a korean team But since qxg is looking close to startale, no reasons to think about it On December 09 2011 08:30 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:29 00Visor wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:22 aintz wrote:
what nani did at mlg is fine. you're required to have thick skin if you are going to do well at anything.
all this talk about bm is just ridiculous. so calling the tournament a joke while on screen and insulting one of the best players in the world is considered fine? okay buddy He did not insult Nestea. He called his decisions in one game "idiotic". His comment was completely taken out of context. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286941 "I thought he would do some smart shit.... but apparently he is just an idiot" Nice source buddy. I hate when people with no clues just post something like that lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him... Yeah and you took it out of context which was the exact reason everyone was pissed off about it, great job. Pretty much every single swede said he meant the drone pull was idiotic right when he said it, and he even comfirmed it himself.
Okay, of course every swede will defend his comments, and he will fix it later as well after he realizes how bad it was. But you can't deny he straight up called Nestea and idiot. Because that is what he said.
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good luck, Nani. I hope all is well on all sides of the trade.
GL to you, and QxG
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On December 09 2011 08:37 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:Yeah, they get crap for it, but again, I'm always like: "Who cares?" Are we not adults here? Is this not a professional sport (game if you prefer)? I just don't get the "OMG MY VIRGIN EARS! HE CALLED SOMEONE AN IDIOT!!!!" attitude. Show nested quote +And you know what happens if players insult or make snide comments about officiating post game? They get fined by the commissioner. Not really. I've seen coaches straight up ask a ref if he's retarded or if he really is in the other team's pocket. It's a professional sport, people are gonna get fired up, people are gonna talk smack, personalities will clash. This may sound harsh but everyone needs to get the fuck over it and grow up.
What coaches say to a ref in game has no bearing. The spectators can't hear it for most of the time. If a coach says it in a post game press conference he gets fined.
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On December 09 2011 08:34 BoomNasty wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:31 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:No one should EVER insult a tournament they are at. Why not? What if the tournament is a joke? The Nestea insult was totally unwarranted and unnecessary. You REALLY should avoid watching football. (also, FTR, I've heard fan-favorite "Tastosis" make worse comments about players while they were casting) Sure maybe not ever, I probably should not have said that, but MLG is not a joke tournament, you should not insult them. They do a lot for Starcraft. And yea, people get fined in sports for rude comments to officials and such.
I think its safe to say Naniwa's position as a player is immeasurably different to yours and thus you cannot possible say that his view of MLG as a "joke tournament" is wrong, hell noone can its an opinion. Maybe he shouldve got fined or whatever but frankly thats MLGs fault for not officiating their tournament more rigidly - infact afaik players arent even meant to speak in chat during games, if they had nipped this rule break in the bud they'd never have had a spectacle such as naniwas outburst.
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On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:33 pPingu wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 Namu wrote:
I thought Sase left quantic.. Where did you read that? Many people just assumed sase would leave qxg because one of the reasons he joined was because of the partnership with a korean team But since qxg is looking close to startale, no reasons to think about it On December 09 2011 08:30 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:29 00Visor wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:22 aintz wrote:
what nani did at mlg is fine. you're required to have thick skin if you are going to do well at anything.
all this talk about bm is just ridiculous. so calling the tournament a joke while on screen and insulting one of the best players in the world is considered fine? okay buddy He did not insult Nestea. He called his decisions in one game "idiotic". His comment was completely taken out of context. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286941 "I thought he would do some smart shit.... but apparently he is just an idiot" Nice source buddy. I hate when people with no clues just post something like that lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him...
Like I said the quote was taken out of context. If you really watched the video, you knew the what he said before and after.
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Nani and sase together! that's a story that just melts your heart <3
QIM NaNi fighting!
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I always wonder what could "core values" possibly mean for an esport team…
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When has a coach been fined for calling the officiating "a joke" in a press conference? I've seen a coach say that multiple times, didn't hear about any fines. Do you have any examples?
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On December 09 2011 08:34 BoomNasty wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:31 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:No one should EVER insult a tournament they are at. Why not? What if the tournament is a joke? The Nestea insult was totally unwarranted and unnecessary. You REALLY should avoid watching football. (also, FTR, I've heard fan-favorite "Tastosis" make worse comments about players while they were casting) Sure maybe not ever, I probably should not have said that, but MLG is not a joke tournament, you should not insult them. They do a lot for Starcraft. And yea, people get fined in sports for rude comments to officials and such.
Every sport has different rules for different reasons. In American football you can be outwardly pissed at refs, etc. I remember when James Harrison (Steelers line backer) said that the Commissioner of the NFL was the devil in a magazine interview.
In the NBA you'll get penalized for BM to a ref. In college rugby you'll get penalized for saying damn near anything at all to a ref unless you're the team's captain. None of those sports penalize shit-talk between players though, and I think obviously that's how it should be.
But anyway, each game has to decide what kind of manners they want to enforce. IMO player to player comments (especially in real life) shouldn't be moderated at all unless they appear on screen, in the game. Let rivalries happen, ya know?
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On December 09 2011 08:41 curlfry wrote:
Nani and sase together! that's a story that just melts your heart <3
QIM NaNi fighting!
Quantic and IM ended their partnership not too long ago. =\
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On December 09 2011 08:39 BoomNasty wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:37 Sneakyz wrote:On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:33 pPingu wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 Namu wrote:
I thought Sase left quantic.. Where did you read that? Many people just assumed sase would leave qxg because one of the reasons he joined was because of the partnership with a korean team But since qxg is looking close to startale, no reasons to think about it On December 09 2011 08:30 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:29 00Visor wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:22 aintz wrote:
what nani did at mlg is fine. you're required to have thick skin if you are going to do well at anything.
all this talk about bm is just ridiculous. so calling the tournament a joke while on screen and insulting one of the best players in the world is considered fine? okay buddy He did not insult Nestea. He called his decisions in one game "idiotic". His comment was completely taken out of context. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286941 "I thought he would do some smart shit.... but apparently he is just an idiot" Nice source buddy. I hate when people with no clues just post something like that lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him... Yeah and you took it out of context which was the exact reason everyone was pissed off about it, great job. Pretty much every single swede said he meant the drone pull was idiotic right when he said it, and he even comfirmed it himself. Okay, of course every swede will defend his comments, and he will fix it later as well after he realizes how bad it was. But you can't deny he straight up called Nestea and idiot. Because that is what he said.
Lol, do you think swedes defend him because he's swedish? If you're gonna pick apart someone because he's not a native english speaker and makes a mistranslation I'm kind of sad.
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On December 09 2011 08:44 Vul wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:34 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:31 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:No one should EVER insult a tournament they are at. Why not? What if the tournament is a joke? The Nestea insult was totally unwarranted and unnecessary. You REALLY should avoid watching football. (also, FTR, I've heard fan-favorite "Tastosis" make worse comments about players while they were casting) Sure maybe not ever, I probably should not have said that, but MLG is not a joke tournament, you should not insult them. They do a lot for Starcraft. And yea, people get fined in sports for rude comments to officials and such. Every sport has different rules for different reasons. In American football you can be outwardly pissed at refs, etc. I remember when James Harrison (Steelers line backer) said that the Commissioner of the NFL was the devil in a magazine interview. In the NBA you'll get penalized for BM to a ref. In college rugby you'll get penalized for saying damn near anything at all to a ref unless you're the team's captain. None of those sports penalize shit-talk between players though, and I think obviously that's how it should be. But anyway, each game has to decide what kind of manners they want to enforce. IMO player to player comments (especially in real life) shouldn't be moderated at all unless they appear on screen, in the game. Let rivalries happen, ya know?
I am fine with rivalries. I am just trying to open the eyes of the people defending Naniwa why people do not like him. They are just blind to what I am saying.
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NaNi doing a 180 saying he loves StarTale when he called them and their practice regiment a joke before :[
EDIT: on that note seems like SaSe is practicing at StarTale right now? And with Destiny headed there QST?
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On December 09 2011 08:45 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 08:39 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:37 Sneakyz wrote:On December 09 2011 08:35 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:33 pPingu wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 Namu wrote:
I thought Sase left quantic.. Where did you read that? Many people just assumed sase would leave qxg because one of the reasons he joined was because of the partnership with a korean team But since qxg is looking close to startale, no reasons to think about it On December 09 2011 08:30 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:29 00Visor wrote:On December 09 2011 08:24 BoomNasty wrote:On December 09 2011 08:22 aintz wrote:
what nani did at mlg is fine. you're required to have thick skin if you are going to do well at anything.
all this talk about bm is just ridiculous. so calling the tournament a joke while on screen and insulting one of the best players in the world is considered fine? okay buddy He did not insult Nestea. He called his decisions in one game "idiotic". His comment was completely taken out of context. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286941 "I thought he would do some smart shit.... but apparently he is just an idiot" Nice source buddy. I hate when people with no clues just post something like that lol no clues? I watched the video and took a quote from him... Yeah and you took it out of context which was the exact reason everyone was pissed off about it, great job. Pretty much every single swede said he meant the drone pull was idiotic right when he said it, and he even comfirmed it himself. Okay, of course every swede will defend his comments, and he will fix it later as well after he realizes how bad it was. But you can't deny he straight up called Nestea and idiot. Because that is what he said. Lol, do you think swedes defend him because he's swedish? If you're gonna pick apart someone because he's not a native english speaker and makes a mistranslation I'm kind of sad.
I am not saying only swedes defend him. I am taking what the person I quoted and elaborated on it. He was the only who said swedes were defending him. Please look at the quote before you put words in my mouths. I know plenty of people like naniwa, it just so happened the guy I quoted only mentioned swedes, so I only talked about swedes in mine...
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