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n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
December 08 2011 22:42 GMT
#481
Soo I read only 3-4 pages and sorry if it was asked before but :
was the transfer sum made public? I'm kinda curious what type of money is required to buy a contracted player in E-sports
Yeah, whatever
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 08 2011 22:43 GMT
#482
On December 09 2011 07:42 n00b3rt wrote:
Soo I read only 3-4 pages and sorry if it was asked before but :
was the transfer sum made public? I'm kinda curious what type of money is required to buy a contracted player in E-sports


No, those numbers won't get released.
InternalSync
Profile Joined December 2011
176 Posts
December 08 2011 22:43 GMT
#483
I like what Naniwa did to NesTea @ MLG and I liked when MC put on his Murlock suit to piss off Idra. I also like when Idra rages. Nothing wrong with that IMO, in real sports this is happening ALL THE TIME, yet no one brands professional athletes with the mark of the devil.

Smart marketing can turn it around and cast that type of [miss]behavior in a good light, and most importantly bring in more viewers to popularize e-sports. If they want mannered people to join their teams, perhaps they should start looking for them in a Church ... or something.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
December 08 2011 22:43 GMT
#484
This is great! Drama free player trades! Sc2 could do withh more of them. I am glad teams are respecting each other and doing good business. Best of luck to naniwa and i cant wait to see who the big name player is that complexity wants. So far they almost managed to get root and stephano and have nabbed naniwa and qxc so when they something big is coming i believe them.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
December 08 2011 22:44 GMT
#485
On December 09 2011 07:39 Sneakyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 07:36 sereniity wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:31 mordk wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:24 sereniity wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:17 IPA wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:02 milky_muh wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:57 Zalithian wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:56 milky_muh wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:53 ZwuckeL wrote:
why has noone seen this coming? i would have thought everyone has seen it coming, after the fact of nani bm'ing so hard at MLG and putting coL in a very awkward position

Hahaha, who/what did he BM? :D


I don't know. Major League Gaming, probably the best SC2 tournament in the world, or at least outside Korea. Nestea, one of the most respected players in Korea and the world?


I may have missed if he flamed MLG tournament, but he certainly didnt flame or BM nestea. Its just you people who want a reason to hate him. He said several times after the interview about winning MLG invitational, that he did not disrespect any of the other players etc etc.


You have no idea what you're talking about. Did you watch MLG Providence? Obviously not or you would know that he did, indeed, BM NesTea and the tournament itself. Please stop posting for a bit.

I find it funny that people choose to rabidly, zealously defend Nani and cast a bunch of down on JLake's statements, even when given Nani's history. People see what they want to see I suppose.


What a bullshit post...

It's okay when MC does his bullshit ceremonies, or when MMA does a kamehameha at IdrA?

It seems that YOU have no idea what YOU'RE talking about. Nestea told Naniwa BEFORE the game PERSONALLY that he would CRUSH him. It was all friendly shit Naniwa did to him and he even stated after that he respected him alot, Nestea mentioned Naniwa in a interview afterwards.

I find it funny that people choose to rabidly, zealously flame Nani and cast a bunch of down on his behaviour, even when he's getting better in terms of personality. People see what they want to see I suppose.

Please stop posting for a bit.

Sigh... I'm not gonna refer to Nani's incident in particular, but I always like to address this issue.

When a player does a Kamehameha, or does a funny throat slash then proceeds to high-five the crowd when winning, or does a murloc dance, it's just a silly ceremony for the fans. It's for the fan's enjoyment.

When a player openly bashes someone, flips the middle finger at someone, etc, that's just to cause anger, basically BM.

It's extremely different situations, in extremely different contexts. The latter just shows how little most foreigner players know of showmanship in comparison to their korean counterparts, probably because the korean scene as a whole is so experienced at being public, again in comparison to the foreigners.


NO.

Kamehameha at someones booth, isn't that just as bad as doing thumbs down?

MC pounded on DRGs booth in the GSTL.

IdrA already said he was playing along with MC when he flipped his finger. If you take the finger flipping so seriously then perhaps you should do the same with the throat slash. Lemme act like you for a sec here...

OMG MC DID THROAT SLASH TO IDRA? HE WANTS TO KILL HIM IRL WTF.

Given how socially awkward Naniwa is you can't expect his "ceremony" to look super natural as all the koreans do in their ceremonies.

First everybody thinks Naniwa is boring and bland.

He does something funny, gets flamed!

That's the SC2 community for you...

I think the most funny thing about this "OMG Naniwa BM'd Nestea!!!!! is that during the Korea vs World event, White-ra thumbs-down MC. And NOONE said anything about that.


White-ra is too mannered to do a thumbs-down. Instead he did an upside-down thumbs-up.
High Risk Low Reward
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
December 08 2011 22:44 GMT
#486
On December 09 2011 07:42 n00b3rt wrote:
Soo I read only 3-4 pages and sorry if it was asked before but :
was the transfer sum made public? I'm kinda curious what type of money is required to buy a contracted player in E-sports

One hundred million dollars!
r. evil laugh*
No numbers regarding money never gets released.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 08 2011 22:44 GMT
#487
On December 09 2011 07:43 T0fuuu wrote:
This is great! Drama free player trades! Sc2 could do withh more of them. I am glad teams are respecting each other and doing good business. Best of luck to naniwa and i cant wait to see who the big name player is that complexity wants. So far they almost managed to get root and stephano and have nabbed naniwa and qxc so when they something big is coming i believe them.

This is hardly drama free, considering what Jason Lake supposedly put on Reddit.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 22:46:58
December 08 2011 22:45 GMT
#488
I read both statements and i guess Naniwa is a nightmare in the "locker room." I don't find it particularly sad that this didn't work out with CoL because it never was meant to, just like it won't with QxG, unless SaSe can control Naniwa. Its not that he is a bad person, just it seems like, a bit immature and not a great team persona (see the, i believe, MLG finals between him and Leenock) The fact that Naniwa says he is lonely and the one of the most powerful gaming companies won't send out people to be with him may be due to the same thing that either A) they want him to mature in Korea where the game scene is much more strict B) they don't want to expose teamates to the rage, much like the jokes people were making about HuK and Idra being together in EG.
EDIT: apparently it was NesTea, not Leenock
User was warned for too many mimes.
Attican
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark531 Posts
December 08 2011 22:45 GMT
#489
As long as Naniwa keeps keeps kicking ass and staring through his opponent's souls I don't care what team he's on.
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
December 08 2011 22:45 GMT
#490
woah..this was sudden. what is going on
@ranleee /// "first we expand, then we defense it'
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
December 08 2011 22:46 GMT
#491
lol

Naniwa and Major should form a team. I don't know what for or why but they should.
Nadarath
Profile Joined July 2011
98 Posts
December 08 2011 22:47 GMT
#492
On December 09 2011 07:43 InternalSync wrote:
I like what Naniwa did to NesTea @ MLG and I liked when MC put on his Murlock suit to piss off Idra. I also like when Idra rages. Nothing wrong with that IMO, in real sports this is happening ALL THE TIME, yet no one brands professional athletes with the mark of the devil.

Smart marketing can turn it around and cast that type of [miss]behavior in a good light, and most importantly bring in more viewers to popularize e-sports. If they want mannered people to join their teams, perhaps they should start looking for them in a Church ... or something.


Yeah you are very much right on the spot. Just for example If Idra would flip someone and Artosis said "omg he is such a bad ass Idra!" - everyone would be - _Yeah ok he is bad ass i can go with that_
If Naniwa would flip somone and Artosis said "omg he is so bad maner" - everyone would just right away start hating on Naniwa.

Simple idea how you can twist things around.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
December 08 2011 22:47 GMT
#493
I like Naniwas statement. Best of luck to him. He's a great player I hope he can prove all the haters wrong.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
December 08 2011 22:47 GMT
#494
On December 09 2011 07:35 stokes17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 07:31 leperphilliac wrote:
Damnit I wish we had real e-sports journalists to get into what really happened. Either Jason Lake is a douche (unlikely) or Naniwa highly offended the team somehow (how?).

or Naniwa wanted a team that was focused on Korea and could provide him with not only companionship but also high level practice partners. Something that Col., objectively, could not do?

Yall just can't even consider a non epeen drama filled scenario can you ? >_>



Yeah I guess that could be an option... if they weren't sending tri-master over. Thing is Naniwa is by far their most high profile player. To sell him off with such animosity from Lake at that means something big has probably happened.
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
December 08 2011 22:47 GMT
#495
On December 09 2011 07:44 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 07:39 Sneakyz wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:36 sereniity wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:31 mordk wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:24 sereniity wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:17 IPA wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:02 milky_muh wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:57 Zalithian wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:56 milky_muh wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:53 ZwuckeL wrote:
why has noone seen this coming? i would have thought everyone has seen it coming, after the fact of nani bm'ing so hard at MLG and putting coL in a very awkward position

Hahaha, who/what did he BM? :D


I don't know. Major League Gaming, probably the best SC2 tournament in the world, or at least outside Korea. Nestea, one of the most respected players in Korea and the world?


I may have missed if he flamed MLG tournament, but he certainly didnt flame or BM nestea. Its just you people who want a reason to hate him. He said several times after the interview about winning MLG invitational, that he did not disrespect any of the other players etc etc.


You have no idea what you're talking about. Did you watch MLG Providence? Obviously not or you would know that he did, indeed, BM NesTea and the tournament itself. Please stop posting for a bit.

I find it funny that people choose to rabidly, zealously defend Nani and cast a bunch of down on JLake's statements, even when given Nani's history. People see what they want to see I suppose.


What a bullshit post...

It's okay when MC does his bullshit ceremonies, or when MMA does a kamehameha at IdrA?

It seems that YOU have no idea what YOU'RE talking about. Nestea told Naniwa BEFORE the game PERSONALLY that he would CRUSH him. It was all friendly shit Naniwa did to him and he even stated after that he respected him alot, Nestea mentioned Naniwa in a interview afterwards.

I find it funny that people choose to rabidly, zealously flame Nani and cast a bunch of down on his behaviour, even when he's getting better in terms of personality. People see what they want to see I suppose.

Please stop posting for a bit.

Sigh... I'm not gonna refer to Nani's incident in particular, but I always like to address this issue.

When a player does a Kamehameha, or does a funny throat slash then proceeds to high-five the crowd when winning, or does a murloc dance, it's just a silly ceremony for the fans. It's for the fan's enjoyment.

When a player openly bashes someone, flips the middle finger at someone, etc, that's just to cause anger, basically BM.

It's extremely different situations, in extremely different contexts. The latter just shows how little most foreigner players know of showmanship in comparison to their korean counterparts, probably because the korean scene as a whole is so experienced at being public, again in comparison to the foreigners.


NO.

Kamehameha at someones booth, isn't that just as bad as doing thumbs down?

MC pounded on DRGs booth in the GSTL.

IdrA already said he was playing along with MC when he flipped his finger. If you take the finger flipping so seriously then perhaps you should do the same with the throat slash. Lemme act like you for a sec here...

OMG MC DID THROAT SLASH TO IDRA? HE WANTS TO KILL HIM IRL WTF.

Given how socially awkward Naniwa is you can't expect his "ceremony" to look super natural as all the koreans do in their ceremonies.

First everybody thinks Naniwa is boring and bland.

He does something funny, gets flamed!

That's the SC2 community for you...

I think the most funny thing about this "OMG Naniwa BM'd Nestea!!!!! is that during the Korea vs World event, White-ra thumbs-down MC. And NOONE said anything about that.


White-ra is too mannered to do a thumbs-down. Instead he did an upside-down thumbs-up.


You made me chuckle sir, well done.
#2throwed
mistax
Profile Joined March 2011
United States415 Posts
December 08 2011 22:48 GMT
#496
if the naniwa trade indeed broke the IM-quantic relationship i dont think it was worth it
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
December 08 2011 22:49 GMT
#497
SaSe + the Naniwa we saw at providence? MIND BLASTING
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 08 2011 22:49 GMT
#498
On December 09 2011 07:44 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 07:39 Sneakyz wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:36 sereniity wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:31 mordk wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:24 sereniity wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:17 IPA wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:02 milky_muh wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:57 Zalithian wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:56 milky_muh wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:53 ZwuckeL wrote:
why has noone seen this coming? i would have thought everyone has seen it coming, after the fact of nani bm'ing so hard at MLG and putting coL in a very awkward position

Hahaha, who/what did he BM? :D


I don't know. Major League Gaming, probably the best SC2 tournament in the world, or at least outside Korea. Nestea, one of the most respected players in Korea and the world?


I may have missed if he flamed MLG tournament, but he certainly didnt flame or BM nestea. Its just you people who want a reason to hate him. He said several times after the interview about winning MLG invitational, that he did not disrespect any of the other players etc etc.


You have no idea what you're talking about. Did you watch MLG Providence? Obviously not or you would know that he did, indeed, BM NesTea and the tournament itself. Please stop posting for a bit.

I find it funny that people choose to rabidly, zealously defend Nani and cast a bunch of down on JLake's statements, even when given Nani's history. People see what they want to see I suppose.


What a bullshit post...

It's okay when MC does his bullshit ceremonies, or when MMA does a kamehameha at IdrA?

It seems that YOU have no idea what YOU'RE talking about. Nestea told Naniwa BEFORE the game PERSONALLY that he would CRUSH him. It was all friendly shit Naniwa did to him and he even stated after that he respected him alot, Nestea mentioned Naniwa in a interview afterwards.

I find it funny that people choose to rabidly, zealously flame Nani and cast a bunch of down on his behaviour, even when he's getting better in terms of personality. People see what they want to see I suppose.

Please stop posting for a bit.

Sigh... I'm not gonna refer to Nani's incident in particular, but I always like to address this issue.

When a player does a Kamehameha, or does a funny throat slash then proceeds to high-five the crowd when winning, or does a murloc dance, it's just a silly ceremony for the fans. It's for the fan's enjoyment.

When a player openly bashes someone, flips the middle finger at someone, etc, that's just to cause anger, basically BM.

It's extremely different situations, in extremely different contexts. The latter just shows how little most foreigner players know of showmanship in comparison to their korean counterparts, probably because the korean scene as a whole is so experienced at being public, again in comparison to the foreigners.


NO.

Kamehameha at someones booth, isn't that just as bad as doing thumbs down?

MC pounded on DRGs booth in the GSTL.

IdrA already said he was playing along with MC when he flipped his finger. If you take the finger flipping so seriously then perhaps you should do the same with the throat slash. Lemme act like you for a sec here...

OMG MC DID THROAT SLASH TO IDRA? HE WANTS TO KILL HIM IRL WTF.

Given how socially awkward Naniwa is you can't expect his "ceremony" to look super natural as all the koreans do in their ceremonies.

First everybody thinks Naniwa is boring and bland.

He does something funny, gets flamed!

That's the SC2 community for you...

I think the most funny thing about this "OMG Naniwa BM'd Nestea!!!!! is that during the Korea vs World event, White-ra thumbs-down MC. And NOONE said anything about that.


White-ra is too mannered to do a thumbs-down. Instead he did an upside-down thumbs-up.


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Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
December 08 2011 22:51 GMT
#499
On December 09 2011 07:48 mistax wrote:
if the naniwa trade indeed broke the IM-quantic relationship i dont think it was worth it

It was not. The guy behind quantic was interviewed togheter with destiny and sase on FUCK SLASHER before and he had quite resonable reasons. Also Naniwa and Nestea talked after that incident and seemed to be fine+Naniwa later clarified that he didn't think Nestea was stupid, that was just him failing with how he said things, just that he made a stupid move at a specific time in a game against him.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
December 08 2011 22:51 GMT
#500
he really has an "in the zone attitude" and that's when you can't talk sense to him.. but I completely understand..
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
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