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On November 28 2011 23:03 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 22:26 Nutm3g wrote:
Great event, other than the hosting. Tejbz was the most socially awkward and cringy host to watch, and the bit where him and TB were co hosting was pretty awful too. The plott brothers or artosis would have made much better hosts, but then they seem to have a lot more confidence and ability with public speaking.
That said, watching some of the other tournament casters made me really appreciate how good the SC2 casters are, anybody see the street fighter? Would you mind pointing out what was wrong with my hosting (which was unplanned and not supposed to happen anyway) and my public speaking abilities? I would like to improve for future events and constructive feedback would be useful.
It probably could have worded that better to be honest it wasn't you it was him. The conversation he was making was just completely awkward and wasn't really in context, it looked a lot like you were like "o....k.... he said that... how do I make this sound a little less awkward and work this into something that the crowd is enjoying." Basically I'd rather you have just talked over him and completely ignored him lol.
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Well thats a bit rude, you cant do that as a caster. Eventhough Tejbz messed up, you have to give him some credit. It was apparently his first time, and luckily it didnt last too long 
TB you are an awesome caster that has improved a lot, and won over a large part of the community. Eventhough plenty of people used to be very skeptical of you, and some still are, this DH you blew me over with some amazing casting. Just keep going at it and im sure you'll improve even more by experience alone.
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Also, I'd like to point out that despite the SteelSeries scene in the DreamExpo was tiny and often very noisy because of the surroundings, I had a lot of fun sitting/standing there because it felt so "packed" with people and generally more lively...
As a constructive remark, I think that Apollo+TB could involve a little more crowd participation in between games. (Didnt see a whole lot of them casting tho, so maybe I'm wrong). Tastosis for instance did there a nice job, because the size of this stage makes it really appropriate for that kind of stuff I think. Even though I think they overdid the GSL-promoting thing, I liked the interraction with the crowd.
Once again, I thank all of the casters for making this week-end one of the best I have ever had!
Hopefully I can find some time these days to write something about my viewer's experience, which was soooo awesome 
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On November 28 2011 23:03 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 22:26 Nutm3g wrote:
Great event, other than the hosting. Tejbz was the most socially awkward and cringy host to watch, and the bit where him and TB were co hosting was pretty awful too. The plott brothers or artosis would have made much better hosts, but then they seem to have a lot more confidence and ability with public speaking.
That said, watching some of the other tournament casters made me really appreciate how good the SC2 casters are, anybody see the street fighter? Would you mind pointing out what was wrong with my hosting (which was unplanned and not supposed to happen anyway) and my public speaking abilities? I would like to improve for future events and constructive feedback would be useful.
Not that it was me you wrote to but perhaps you would appreciate some feedback regardless.
Something you've become much better at when casting but still can improve upon is your interaction with your co-caster (for the most part Apollo). Before, it was almost as if it was watching two different casts when you two were casting, if Apollo said something, you'd almost always disregard what he said and say something completely unrelated to that. Sometimes one got the impression that you didn't really even care for or even like Apollo.
However, as I said you've improved in this department and this is actually the first event in which I've actually liked your casts. But there is still some ways to go in your interactions with Apollo. He is great with it comes to the indepth and tactical part of the game so play with him on that strength, ask him questions, follow up what he said and ask follow up questions. Don't just end with a "Right." when-ever he says something and turn your attention else-where, show some more respect for his analysis. This is something Apollo did better than you, he was better able to play upon and continue on what you said.
You are on the other hand great when it comes to the quick-talk, rallying the crowd up and following the action on the screen. Your camera control is also far ahead of that of Apollo (as was apprent when he got control for a while), as he moves the camera around far too much and far too quickly.
tl;dr. Interact more smoothly and more friendly, play on each others strengths.
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I think TB's improved a lot. In the past I couldn't stand his casting because he would say so many inaccurate things, but now I really enjoy the dApollo + TB combo. GJ!
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On Nov 28 2011 15:18 Valashu wrote:
I loved it, only gripe I had was Tastosis kept talking about GSL and it really put me off because I've seen them do the same in other foreign tournaments.
I wondered about that, I've heard them doing it a lot too, maybe they ask for it in their contract?
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On November 29 2011 02:10 Wesso wrote:Show nested quote +On Nov 28 2011 15:18 Valashu wrote:
I loved it, only gripe I had was Tastosis kept talking about GSL and it really put me off because I've seen them do the same in other foreign tournaments. I wondered about that, I've heard them doing it a lot too, maybe they ask for it in their contract?
I don't really see the issue with cross-promoting both their gig and another tournament. In fact I'd like to see more of that, it is beneficial to the scene for people to be aware of and to be encouraged to participate in more SC2 events.
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Best tournament so far. Some small things they could have done
They introduced the players but I would like personal introductions songs.
Like they have in the UFC when the players are entering the arena!
Besides that it was the best tournament from a viewer PoV.
If you lost you dident' get knocked out by losing a Bo3 series or Losing due to extended series (MLG :-( )
In order to go out you had to lose 2/3 games (or get knocked out due to round differences in some rare occasions).
Yes you could lose in the playoffs but they still gave people a lot of chance to prove themself!
Props to DH for an awesome tournament!
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Oh yeah remove Tejbz. Was embarassing when he asked Cypher about his sex-life after winning quake tournaments
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I thought the event was fantastic overall, the format is really good and makes for exciting finals, the caster combos did amazing jobs and the stream quality and atmosphere of the entire event was awesome. Really produced some of the best games ever, Hero hwaiting!
However, promise to never let Tejbz do any kind of hosting again. His jokes were really lame and his only impact on the tournament was to create awkwardness and spoil the mood. It's better to have a boring, transparent host than a total douche asking people when they last got laid.
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Heart bpm, fan voting and a great public aren't exactly what makes a good tournament, but at the same time are a great addiction when the tournament is already great.
Especially the public, in this case, they were like the icing on the cake.
The big deal this time was the tournament structure.
Especially in day 1.
I think that from now on every tournament whose structure is bigger than a single ro16 tourney should consider implementing this method.
The pool selection is simply amazing for every player and the public as well: first of all, you don't face an insta-elimination and get the chance to prove yourself more than once.
It manages at the same time to reduce the chances for a top player to be sniped by a random guy who got particularly lucky, and for lesser names to prove themselves in more than a match.
It sucks if a player gets to play a single b03 in his worst matchup against a specialist of that matchup: if you are a lesser known zerg you'd be pissed to go back home just after having to play against Nestea and eventually go back home before even starting your engine.
With this format, instead (and DH planned it EXTREMELY well, because not even one of the pools featured more than 2 big names or 2 'lesser' players) top players are most likely to proceed but at the same time their lesser colleagues can prove themselves in various matchups and even provide some upsets.
It's a win-win situation for everyone.
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Please let swedish tv (SVT) be in charge of all the stream production next year (including the streams for people outside of sweden) if possible. The crowd cheering after the finals was completely lost on the twitch-stream. Other than that amazing job DH!
For videos from the crowd cheering in the 'SVT-viewer-experience' see the first video in this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=289866
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Time to bump this thread up, DREAMHACK FUCKING DELIVERS ! ! !
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Can't really say anything else than thanks DH production crew and i wish i would be there! Thanks for awesome event!
[EDIT] Missed actually that this is old post! But anyways!
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On a somewhat related note, does anyone know what song was used after the finals?
if was kind of dancy lyrics along the lines of "looooose your miind" (before sandstorm)
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Amen, this was just an amazing event with a brilliant ending
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It's so amazing what kind of atmosphere and show Dreamhack puts up event after event. Only GSL does it better in my books.
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That was stellar, guys, stellar.
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Imo one of the greatest things ever happen in esports
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This Dreamhack event was ( for me ) the best event so far this year, amazing work.
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Put other tournments to shame, thanks dreamhack! Thorzain fighting!
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