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Interview with Sundance DiGiovanni

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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
November 20 2011 13:36 GMT
#1
We had the opportunity to sit down with Sundance DiGiovanni yesterday afternoon to discuss MLG's growth in 2011, things that went right/wrong, and what to expect from them in 2012. Excuse the lack of audio for the questions.

Let us know what you think!

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MasterJack
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada215 Posts
November 20 2011 13:38 GMT
#2
Great video!
Greyhawk
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia110 Posts
November 20 2011 13:38 GMT
#3
Great Interview, Kennegit! :D
ShoCk-
-ForeverAlone-
Profile Joined June 2011
274 Posts
November 20 2011 13:39 GMT
#4
Nice interview. A+
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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
November 20 2011 13:40 GMT
#5
Lol how have u guys had the time to watch a 23min interview in 2 mins? Beats me...

Anyways watching now Cheers!
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 13:41:42
November 20 2011 13:40 GMT
#6
Great interview, nice responses from Sundance (was only interested about the answers on the tournament system ), and the quality of the production is really good.
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marvtech
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany5 Posts
November 20 2011 13:40 GMT
#7
Nice
Krallman
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden713 Posts
November 20 2011 13:41 GMT
#8
On November 20 2011 22:40 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Lol how have u guys had the time to watch a 23min interview in 2 mins? Beats me...

Anyways watching now Cheers!


Haha thats true
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-ForeverAlone-
Profile Joined June 2011
274 Posts
November 20 2011 13:42 GMT
#9
On November 20 2011 22:40 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Lol how have u guys had the time to watch a 23min interview in 2 mins? Beats me...

Anyways watching now Cheers!

Doesn't take long to figure out if something is interesting or not.

We can actually hear what's being said, which is better than 99% of the Interview videos usually posted.
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ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
November 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#10
Good interview, always interested in the direction of MLG and what Sundance does.
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Buruguduy
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines238 Posts
November 20 2011 13:49 GMT
#11
On November 20 2011 22:41 Krallman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 22:40 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Lol how have u guys had the time to watch a 23min interview in 2 mins? Beats me...

Anyways watching now Cheers!


Haha thats true


It's their way of saying "first." lol.
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Grigor
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom4 Posts
November 20 2011 13:50 GMT
#12
On November 20 2011 22:40 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Lol how have u guys had the time to watch a 23min interview in 2 mins? Beats me...

Anyways watching now Cheers!


They're clearly from the future
Voldron
Profile Joined February 2011
Greece91 Posts
November 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#13
he sure talks a lot. At a point that i dont remember of what he said exactly but he seems to be working hard . Good for esports? :p
hYrasD
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany164 Posts
November 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#14
cant wait for mlg 2012
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tylermakesmusic
Profile Joined April 2011
United States122 Posts
November 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#15
Awesome video. Sundance is the man. Hoping the changes for next season are more fair to the players and the fans as well.
omnia vincit amor: et nos cedamus amori.
Pondo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia283 Posts
November 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#16
Great interview. So much respect for that guy
colingrad
Profile Joined March 2008
United States210 Posts
November 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#17
can't wait to hear the the new plans and wow 300,000 concurrent viewers would be pretty damn awesome i hope it happens, ahhh december come faster so we can hear the news!
For the Emperor!
WinteRR
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia201 Posts
November 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#18
Would love anyone who could sum up this interview! Don't have time to catch the full 20mins
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
November 20 2011 14:11 GMT
#19
enjoyed it
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jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
November 20 2011 14:13 GMT
#20
wouldn't the new surge of barcrafts take a big dent out of the concurrent viewers? like for e.g Montreal barcraft i hear is 1500 ppl, thats 1500 views potentially .. Lots of people get together and watch from 1 view so i not sure why hes aiming for a specific viewer number.
beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
November 20 2011 14:13 GMT
#21
Wow, Sundance is such an intelligent guy. Such an awesome interview.
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
November 20 2011 14:14 GMT
#22
Great interview ! Looking forward next year MLGs even more now :D

Gotta thank MLG Dallas 2011 and Sundance's reaction to it. I mean it was a total disaster and he could've easly scrapped the whole SC2 idea out of MLG and stick to the "safer" console titles. But he didn't. He took a lot of shit, took it as a man should, and then choose to dive straight into it, despite all that went wrong.
Each MLG has gotten better and better since. In terms of game quality, stories, casting, crowds, drama and so on.
Keep it up ! :D
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
November 20 2011 14:15 GMT
#23
Waiting for December announcements.
I am not good with quotes
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
November 20 2011 14:17 GMT
#24
On November 20 2011 23:13 jinixxx123 wrote:
wouldn't the new surge of barcrafts take a big dent out of the concurrent viewers? like for e.g Montreal barcraft i hear is 1500 ppl, thats 1500 views potentially .. Lots of people get together and watch from 1 view so i not sure why hes aiming for a specific viewer number.


as long as they get the numbers from the barcrafts, it's not problem for them to add them up. 1500 people bunching up in a bar to watch MLG is probably even more interesting for sponsors than 1500 running streams from people at home (who might be or might be not at their computer).
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
November 20 2011 14:18 GMT
#25
Really fantastic interview, and nice answers from Sundance.
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colingrad
Profile Joined March 2008
United States210 Posts
November 20 2011 14:18 GMT
#26
On November 20 2011 23:13 jinixxx123 wrote:
wouldn't the new surge of barcrafts take a big dent out of the concurrent viewers? like for e.g Montreal barcraft i hear is 1500 ppl, thats 1500 views potentially .. Lots of people get together and watch from 1 view so i not sure why hes aiming for a specific viewer number.


like he said sponsors and potential advertisers are going to care a lot about how many concurrent viewers there are watching the stream, i think being able to add on that there may now be even more thousands watching in bars on top of that number will definitely help peak interest in investing.
For the Emperor!
Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
November 20 2011 14:20 GMT
#27
Yes this kid is pretty good with the media.
Hopefully he can live up to the words and let MLG grow healthy.
Tukker
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada13 Posts
November 20 2011 14:21 GMT
#28
well done by all involved.

Excited for more MLG next season. MLG may not have the big payouts - but it is one of the few tournaments that I always try to plan my weekend around watching the tournament because of the casters / the crowd and the selection of great foreign and Korean players.
hookyelyak
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Egypt184 Posts
November 20 2011 14:25 GMT
#29
thnx for the great interview
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Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
November 20 2011 14:26 GMT
#30
Wow, great interview! Sundance is always so great in these interviews, you really feel just how passionate he is about esports.
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Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
November 20 2011 14:28 GMT
#31
Thanks for the interview as always. ^__^
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 20 2011 14:29 GMT
#32
very nice, now I am really looking forward to the future of MLG!
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
November 20 2011 14:31 GMT
#33
Great interview, the only thing I hope they don't do is make MLG too frequent. One of the things I really like about MLG over GSL is that it's not on every single month. Major tournaments should limit themselves to one every 2-3 months.
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
November 20 2011 14:42 GMT
#34
Hmm Sundance said something about 185 million of bottles of dr pepper. I didn't really understand that. What did he say?
Evil Geniuses<3
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
November 20 2011 14:45 GMT
#35
Great interview! Thanks alot!
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
November 20 2011 14:46 GMT
#36
On November 20 2011 23:17 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 23:13 jinixxx123 wrote:
wouldn't the new surge of barcrafts take a big dent out of the concurrent viewers? like for e.g Montreal barcraft i hear is 1500 ppl, thats 1500 views potentially .. Lots of people get together and watch from 1 view so i not sure why hes aiming for a specific viewer number.


as long as they get the numbers from the barcrafts, it's not problem for them to add them up. 1500 people bunching up in a bar to watch MLG is probably even more interesting for sponsors than 1500 running streams from people at home (who might be or might be not at their computer).


I think its better for the sponsors because if there are people together while an advertisement then people can talk about it and be like "oh wow i really like hotpockets, do you?" and this conversation erupts about it. Rather than 1 person at home not giving a shit about the sponsors becuase its taking up their time from watching a starcraft game.
Evil Geniuses<3
mnu
Profile Joined October 2010
4 Posts
November 20 2011 14:47 GMT
#37
Thank you for the Interview!
I think MLG is great but what really gets me is how much they think of Gamers and Esports fans as"14-16 year olds" and it shows in a lot of stuff they produce (the music, the pimp my gamer bedroom show that runs between matches etc.). They should approach Starcraft 2 in a different way than console gaming.
JohnnyYen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States313 Posts
November 20 2011 14:47 GMT
#38
Cool interview. Usually I like hearing the team liquid guys asking questions, but this was nice too. I loved Sundance's answers to the numbers question, his idea for how starcraft will grow to reach the mainstream. MLG seems to be on top of their shit, great stuff all around.

"Some people will be always be unhappy"? I hope that's not foreshadowing MLG keeping the same extended series!!
ntvarify
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States331 Posts
November 20 2011 14:49 GMT
#39
Just finished, really good interview, answered a lot of questions. Can't wait to see what they're planning for 2012!
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
November 20 2011 14:51 GMT
#40
Great interview and great editing
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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
November 20 2011 14:51 GMT
#41
I really loved the interview. Sundance seems to have a great vision and I can only hope that it works out. For all of us eSport fans. good luck with everything!
keep it deep! @zulison
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
November 20 2011 14:53 GMT
#42
On November 20 2011 23:47 JohnnyYen wrote:
Cool interview. Usually I like hearing the team liquid guys asking questions, but this was nice too. I loved Sundance's answers to the numbers question, his idea for how starcraft will grow to reach the mainstream. MLG seems to be on top of their shit, great stuff all around.

"Some people will be always be unhappy"? I hope that's not foreshadowing MLG keeping the same extended series!!


Im pretty sure they said they would remove the extended series.
Evil Geniuses<3
!LL
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria256 Posts
November 20 2011 14:54 GMT
#43
sundance is awesome
very nice video
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MrGio
Profile Joined July 2011
Georgia28 Posts
November 20 2011 14:58 GMT
#44
Nice interview.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
November 20 2011 14:59 GMT
#45
Very nice interview!
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skipgamer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia701 Posts
November 20 2011 15:01 GMT
#46
On November 20 2011 23:13 beamingrobot wrote:
Wow, Sundance is such an intelligent guy. Such an awesome interview.

Agreed 100%

He is definitely a lot more intelligent than I pegged him for in some of his other interviews. I guess the questions just brought out the best in him?

Either way, the fact that he is setting up MLG as not just a thing to make a buck, and is actually looking generations ahead is incredible. Sundance should be the face of e-sports... Obviously not the face of SC2, but really, this guy seems like he could make anyone who genuinely wants e-sports to succeed just hand over their support.
Psyfe
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway7 Posts
November 20 2011 15:14 GMT
#47
Awesome interview.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 20 2011 15:22 GMT
#48
Great interview, good job!
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cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
November 20 2011 15:27 GMT
#49
Excellent interview. Looking forward to the new structure.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bomkia
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden48 Posts
November 20 2011 15:30 GMT
#50
Very enjoyable interview. Thanks!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 20 2011 15:34 GMT
#51
I would expect around 300K viewers this weekend as well.
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
November 20 2011 15:41 GMT
#52
TY TL!
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Adventurekid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Sweden505 Posts
November 20 2011 15:44 GMT
#53
Great, thanks!
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Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
November 20 2011 15:48 GMT
#54
Could anybody summarize the biggest/most important points for those of us who can't watch this right now?
emecee
Profile Joined September 2010
United States222 Posts
November 20 2011 15:50 GMT
#55
in sundance we trust.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
November 20 2011 16:04 GMT
#56
Sweet interview. Sundance is an awesome guy. Looking forward to see what MLG has in store for 2012.
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ptz
Profile Joined January 2005
Romania251 Posts
November 20 2011 16:08 GMT
#57
Sundance is awesome. Great respect for what he is doing. Pls give up on the stupid extended series rule though
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
November 20 2011 16:14 GMT
#58
Pretty good interviews, like the fact he's going slow but steady, taking a long term approach!
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
November 20 2011 16:16 GMT
#59
I wonder if he was speaking about a specific caster when he mentioned some of them having an ego.
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
November 20 2011 16:53 GMT
#60
MLG really comes off as a company that just wants to control everything. Either way, interesting interview from sundance. Thanks!
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mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
November 20 2011 17:14 GMT
#61
Great interview !
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
November 20 2011 17:18 GMT
#62
Sick interview.
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Nukm_
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany104 Posts
November 20 2011 17:18 GMT
#63
hearing sundance talk about the mlg time and time again i have no doubt that they will do more than fine in the future. and thats good for sc2
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
November 20 2011 17:20 GMT
#64
great video good job
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Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
November 20 2011 17:44 GMT
#65
Sundance you are a great face for the business of esports.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
November 20 2011 19:29 GMT
#66
Great interview, Kennigit. Is Sundance trying to grow a porn 'stache?
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StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
November 20 2011 19:37 GMT
#67
Nice to see the Sundance's thought process behind the way he runs MLG and Starcraft 2 in particular. I think with him at the helm MLG will continue its success and help boost the popularity of Starcraft along the way.
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mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
November 20 2011 21:28 GMT
#68
On November 20 2011 23:42 soulist wrote:
Hmm Sundance said something about 185 million of bottles of dr pepper. I didn't really understand that. What did he say?


Before StarCraft was on the Pro Circuit Dr. Pepper made special bottles with one of the Halo players and there were 185 million of those bottles.
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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
November 20 2011 22:06 GMT
#69
Thanks for the interview.
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Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
November 20 2011 22:30 GMT
#70
As long as they fix the really silly seeding (ignoring the rest of the world) and massive protection of "seeded" players for no apparent reason, I'm happy.

Yeah, the extended series is a really bad idea as well.
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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
November 20 2011 22:51 GMT
#71
Thank you for the interview, was really interesting.
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Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
November 21 2011 00:11 GMT
#72
On November 21 2011 02:44 Techno wrote:
Sundance you are a great face for the business of esports.


I haven't seen a techno post in a while, and I have to agree. Mr. Giovanni does the insight needed for this diverse business realm.
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Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
November 21 2011 00:15 GMT
#73
Great interview, much respect to Sundance as always.
Shodanss
Profile Joined November 2010
Greece245 Posts
November 21 2011 00:34 GMT
#74
Great interview! Sundance has a nice plan and i cannot wait to see what comes out in the end.
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LeFroMaGe
Profile Joined October 2010
United States628 Posts
November 21 2011 00:38 GMT
#75
This is a really great and informative interview pushing the real views of what SC2 should be looking for moving forward. We are in good hands with Sundance!
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 21 2011 02:43 GMT
#76
great interview. sundance is very well spoken and i have high hopes for him and MLG.

its amazing that in a year MLG has far surpassed all other organizations in creating such a huge event. it is truly the best and most global sc2 tournament. GSL is a korean tournament; and wcg is meh.
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
November 21 2011 02:44 GMT
#77
No mention of extended series. Dunno if that makes me happy or upset.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 21 2011 02:46 GMT
#78
wow this is a great interview nice questions, thanks! sundance is such a boss
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McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
November 21 2011 02:48 GMT
#79
On November 21 2011 11:44 tsuxiit wrote:
No mention of extended series. Dunno if that makes me happy or upset.


Given how much the community has complained about that and given how much MLG listens to the community. I highly highly doubt there will be extended series next year. Plus it sounds like they are completely revamping their tournament system. I'm so excited for it!

Great interview. I can't find words to describe how happy I am that Sundance is leading this amazing team at MLG to provide us with this entertainment. MLG is in very good hands.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 21 2011 02:49 GMT
#80
I love these interviews. I don't know why, but I enjoy behind-the-scenes interviews with some big names that aren't players, nor casters, but managers and business-people, etc!
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JMDj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States454 Posts
November 21 2011 02:56 GMT
#81
Sundance r00lz
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
November 21 2011 02:59 GMT
#82
I'm around halfway through, and he seems to keep hinting at new MLGs next year. I'm interested in seeing where they go from here.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
November 21 2011 03:08 GMT
#83
Awesome interview! Sooooo pumped for what 2012 has to offer!
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
November 21 2011 03:16 GMT
#84
On November 20 2011 23:42 soulist wrote:
Hmm Sundance said something about 185 million of bottles of dr pepper. I didn't really understand that. What did he say?

One of their Halo players Tsquared was on bottles of Dr.Pepper in 08/09 to raise awareness of mlg.
LOVE what Sundance is doing, have been following MLG for years and it keeps on improving, 2012 is looking to be incredible!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 21 2011 03:22 GMT
#85
Hmm, great interview!
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Fkyx
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States109 Posts
November 21 2011 03:34 GMT
#86
Interview was cool, but having to read the questions sucked. I don't want to stare at Sundance for 20 minutes... I have better things to do.
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
November 21 2011 03:38 GMT
#87
On November 21 2011 12:34 Fkyx wrote:
Interview was cool, but having to read the questions sucked. I don't want to stare at Sundance for 20 minutes... I have better things to do.


Like posting about it?

Thanks for the interview!
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iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
November 21 2011 03:41 GMT
#88
surprised to hear about 90k LoL viewers just as they started up, I wonder what was LoL's and sc2's highest peak
Xirt
Profile Joined April 2009
Scotland52 Posts
November 21 2011 03:50 GMT
#89
Great interview, answers for future expansion understandably vauge and otherwise nice to hear about a side of esports that is often skimmed over.
Poyo
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada790 Posts
November 21 2011 04:04 GMT
#90
Thank you, great stuff!
Poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo!
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
November 21 2011 04:33 GMT
#91
The thing that really impresses me about this guy is not only his eloquence in answering the questions, but the general scope of MLG's plans with SC2. The bit about NOT converting people but instead creating an environment that raises young'uns into Esports sounds brilliant.

I'm glad that one of the heads of arguably the most legitimate Western Esports scene is a pretty level-headed guy and not some money-grubbing douche.

I would like to see more in-depths interviews by MLG of the players - shown specifically during the tournament so that more of a personality is formed from each of the players. Even though it was basically fictitious, the Naniwa-Nestea drama was one of the most interesting "rivalries" in SC2 to date, and it was only known because Artosis decided to tell the viewers. If MLG could facilitate more public interviews, things like these would be more frequent and thus make an MLG viewing experience that much better.
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
DeadPixels
Profile Joined October 2010
United States78 Posts
November 21 2011 04:51 GMT
#92
On November 20 2011 23:46 soulist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 23:17 TBO wrote:
On November 20 2011 23:13 jinixxx123 wrote:
wouldn't the new surge of barcrafts take a big dent out of the concurrent viewers? like for e.g Montreal barcraft i hear is 1500 ppl, thats 1500 views potentially .. Lots of people get together and watch from 1 view so i not sure why hes aiming for a specific viewer number.


as long as they get the numbers from the barcrafts, it's not problem for them to add them up. 1500 people bunching up in a bar to watch MLG is probably even more interesting for sponsors than 1500 running streams from people at home (who might be or might be not at their computer).


I think its better for the sponsors because if there are people together while an advertisement then people can talk about it and be like "oh wow i really like hotpockets, do you?" and this conversation erupts about it. Rather than 1 person at home not giving a shit about the sponsors becuase its taking up their time from watching a starcraft game.


Yea, and also because one guy watching a stream at home can hit the 'mute' button every time a commercial comes on or switch to another window or something, but you can't mute the tv in a bar. So this guarantees that the commercial is actually on and being watched/listened to. And if they can get more and more sponsors, they won't have to play the same 5 commercials over the course of the entire weekend, which would mean that fewer people would be muting the stream because they don't want to watch some dumb bitch be a "Lady Cop" for the thousandth time.
Shel
Profile Joined December 2010
United States104 Posts
November 21 2011 05:19 GMT
#93
Thank you SO much for asking the "Sex sells" question. I've been harping on this all over the place and I'm happy that he addressed it. At there were no female hosts this tourney, which I think is awesome. And they're interviewing guys for some position, I'm guessing as interviewer/hosts. Is there any way you could reply with what the actual question was?
There is no spoon
Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
November 21 2011 05:20 GMT
#94
really like what he was saying about getting exposure to the players, and how 18 days over 10 months isnt enough, which i agree with. MLGs trying to become more GSL like i have a feeling, which i like a lot.
Ciraxis
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia400 Posts
November 21 2011 05:23 GMT
#95
Sundance is heading in the right direction with MLG. Good luck for 2012!
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
November 21 2011 05:36 GMT
#96
Wow, every one of these interviews Kennigit does gets better than the last!

I'm a little annoyed Sundance couldn't tell us more about next season, but I understand why they want to wait.

I have to say, he really comes off as someone who truly understands the Esports community and what we want to see. Very excited to hear more about next season!
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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
November 21 2011 05:37 GMT
#97
Geez he gave some good answers. Shows he knows the deal.

I particularly loved his answers at around 15 and 17 minutes. The whole growing ESPORTS for future generations as opposed to trying to convert people, and the bit about needing a structure in place for the US scene so these guys can actually be full time and treat it as such.

Really good interview. Bring on 2012~!
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bode927
Profile Joined April 2011
United States164 Posts
November 21 2011 05:47 GMT
#98
I'm glad we have someone as smart and involved as Sundance leading the charge at MLG. The guy knows what he's talking about and actually cares about seeing esports grow. Can't ask for better than that.
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
November 21 2011 05:52 GMT
#99
On November 20 2011 22:40 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Lol how have u guys had the time to watch a 23min interview in 2 mins? Beats me...

Anyways watching now Cheers!


People who respond without viewing the content in the OP should be banned or something. But I guess it's better than them just posting "FIRST!"
Audio
Profile Joined March 2010
United States60 Posts
November 21 2011 06:14 GMT
#100
Very very interesting.. The competitions heating up and i was beginning to think IPL was going to leave MLG in the dust, but the recent MLGs are keeping up, and i'm looking forward to 2012. Seems like mainstream esports is becoming more of a reality very quickly.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
November 21 2011 06:20 GMT
#101
He's a true politician.
His answers are ambiguous as shit, and he rambles off topic based upon the questions often
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DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
November 21 2011 06:20 GMT
#102
Darn it Sundance--I've been reading your tweets. I appreciate all your concern towards satisfying people--but for the love of sweet innocent baby Jesus, quit letting trolls get you upset. Obviously--you're doing a great job.
LingBlingMuta
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States382 Posts
November 21 2011 06:28 GMT
#103
I love long informative interviews.

Good shit here!
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pestilenz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Denmark379 Posts
November 21 2011 07:26 GMT
#104
I think we have a fan hidden in Mr DiGiovanni

Nice interview though! Good insight
You can attack with this?!
BudgetTheLeech
Profile Joined September 2011
United States89 Posts
November 21 2011 07:31 GMT
#105
Great interview. Thoroughly answered every question.

Anticipating December for the announcements.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 07:33:58
November 21 2011 07:33 GMT
#106
I just hope they dont increase the frequency by too much, currently, the timing between the mlgs is very nice, I get really hyped for each one and plan my weekend around it. Raising it might make it more stale.

Also I wanted to know if they're looking to do something on a team level (ala gstl etc).
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
November 21 2011 07:47 GMT
#107
On November 21 2011 15:20 Bill Murray wrote:
He's a true politician.
His answers are ambiguous as shit, and he rambles off topic based upon the questions often

On November 21 2011 16:31 BudgetTheLeech wrote:
Great interview. Thoroughly answered every question.

Anticipating December for the announcements.

...heh. I will stand on neutral ground for this one.
#TeamBuLba
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 08:01:06
November 21 2011 08:00 GMT
#108
On November 21 2011 15:20 Bill Murray wrote:
He's a true politician.
His answers are ambiguous as shit, and he rambles off topic based upon the questions often


You mean like your opinion that makes an accusation, gives a broad generalization similar to the characteristics of your accusation and then give no fucking examples.

Get out of here dude. Examples please.
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
November 21 2011 08:13 GMT
#109
Awesome interview. Sundance is so well spoken.

Also Kennigit is a mute? =D
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Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
November 21 2011 08:59 GMT
#110
I especially like the part where he talks about how mainstream people dont get converted, younger generations simply grow up and take over so they become mainstream.

Reminds me of the quote "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."

It's both very true, and it shows that Sundance is definitely in it for the LONG term.
Distortion_nZ
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand41 Posts
November 21 2011 10:13 GMT
#111
This is a great interview! Sundance seems very clued up and i have faith in him!!
RealRook
Profile Joined September 2010
Czech Republic54 Posts
November 21 2011 10:54 GMT
#112
more interviews like this with team owners PLS!!!!!!
Carlitoz
Profile Joined April 2010
Venezuela9 Posts
November 21 2011 10:56 GMT
#113
can't wait for 2012 !! great interview
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
November 21 2011 11:04 GMT
#114
On November 20 2011 22:40 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Lol how have u guys had the time to watch a 23min interview in 2 mins? Beats me...

Anyways watching now Cheers!

Lol, I was thinking the same thing.
I get it.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
November 21 2011 11:15 GMT
#115
On November 21 2011 15:20 Bill Murray wrote:
He's a true politician.
His answers are ambiguous as shit, and he rambles off topic based upon the questions often


And you're a true political commentator.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Dezire
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands640 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 11:21:14
November 21 2011 11:20 GMT
#116
" i believe the best sc2 player is playing yet, i' ll be honest, theres probably a 12y old kid who is gna tear shit up soon "

after that leenock proceeds to win mlg :D
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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 21 2011 11:23 GMT
#117
Great interview!! Thanks for the content.

I wonder about the future plans of MLG though, in one way id love to watch these events all the time. However if its going to be to often it might lose its magic touch. Currently 6 times a year i do 3days fuck all besides sitting on couch watching SC2 whole day every day. If they're going to do it (lets say 15 times) i might not do it because it becomes "normal".

You can compare it to TSL. If they'd do it every week it would be nothing more than a weekly, now because its a once a year thing its EPICCCCC and Legen... wait for it dary!

ps. I LOVE MLG ♥♥<3<3
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La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
November 21 2011 11:33 GMT
#118
Love MLG, been following since like 2004/5, its grown massivly and sundance is one of the main reasons, great interview love the direction of MLG!
pff
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
November 21 2011 12:52 GMT
#119
On November 21 2011 15:20 Bill Murray wrote:
He's a true politician.
His answers are ambiguous as shit, and he rambles off topic based upon the questions often


He meant exactly what he said. I can see why you'd think that, but he's just approaching things from a business perspective rather than a priori esports is amazing let's throw money at it.

Which answers did you have a problem with? He gave a timeframe for more specifics on next year (December)
Fiel
Profile Joined March 2010
United States587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 13:40:41
November 21 2011 13:40 GMT
#120
Kennigit is the most boss interviewer ever. I'll watch any interview he does. He could interview a snail and make it fascinating.
SevenAteNine
Profile Joined February 2010
126 Posts
November 21 2011 14:00 GMT
#121
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big
omnomnomnom
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
November 21 2011 14:13 GMT
#122
very good interview. he answers well and not in an overly media-trained way, it's good that he seems to recognise the limitations and faults of their product even though they are imo currently the market leader, and that standing still is not the way to go. i look forward to the improvements they'll make in 2012
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MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 14:25:06
November 21 2011 14:23 GMT
#123
Great interview, interesting to see the insight of a tournament through the organizer standpoint.
Nonnar
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden50 Posts
November 21 2011 15:31 GMT
#124
Great interview, thank you!
legendre20
Profile Joined November 2010
United States316 Posts
November 21 2011 15:46 GMT
#125
Pretty interesting interview. I have enormous respect for this guy and what he has done. Can't wait for MLG 2012
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Avalain
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada308 Posts
November 21 2011 15:49 GMT
#126
This interview is fantastic! Sundance really seems to "get it". This makes me very excited about the future of the MLG and eSports in general.

I'd really like to see what happens in 2012. Here's hoping for Canadian events!
You know what unit really has balance problems? Colossi. Why, they look like they could be blown over in a stiff wind!
Chickaboom
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada47 Posts
November 21 2011 15:53 GMT
#127
impressive interview, very smart gentleman, if i had a chance to work at mlg i would take it in a second, looks like an awesome visionary to work for
dattebayo!
mrGRAPE
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore293 Posts
November 21 2011 16:14 GMT
#128
Great interview, I hope eSports will continue to be strong for the years to come
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JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
November 21 2011 16:56 GMT
#129
Awesome interview! This MLG was sick and hopefully next year they can keep it up!
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
November 21 2011 17:04 GMT
#130
If players were the only ones watching, LoL would win no contest. So they do - today.

Hopefully SC2 will attract people who don't actively play as well, like BW did in Korea.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
November 21 2011 17:07 GMT
#131
They need to give Naniwa some media training ^_^.
Didn't know they actually did that, not suprised if they did it with T2.

So happy see MLG grow :D. Its been making me lose sleep since 08/9 :D
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TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
November 21 2011 17:13 GMT
#132
Such an awesome interview!!! :D
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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 21 2011 17:14 GMT
#133
I'm guessing the transitions were awkward, but I really like seeing the interviewer as well. Good I/V!
Tegin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States840 Posts
November 21 2011 17:18 GMT
#134
Thanks for posting this. Great interview!
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DarkShadowz
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden321 Posts
November 21 2011 17:35 GMT
#135
Amazing interview he's such an interlligent dude. Really knows what he's doing.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 17:50:28
November 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#136
Two things I really liked about the interview:

1. Sundance saying that the way to go for e-sports is not converting the masses but organical growth with the new generations.

2. The hint at regional competitions that lead up to the global competition.
MLG needs regional qualifiers that gives people spots and possibly travel money for the big event. It just sucked that travel stipends were given in a quite random fashion, and to Koreans only. Europeans just stopped coming except they had spots in the pools.
Regional qualifiers would bring more games and more fairness, as well as the opportunity to have regional champions.
Off-season = best season
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
November 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#137
holy, his shirt is blowing my mind right now. all kinds of optical illusion.
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PhoenixDark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States286 Posts
November 21 2011 18:28 GMT
#138
On November 22 2011 02:49 Redox wrote:
Two things I really liked about the interview:

1. Sundance saying that the way to go for e-sports is not converting the masses but organical growth with the new generations.

2. The hint at regional competitions that lead up to the global competition.
MLG needs regional qualifiers that gives people spots and possibly travel money for the big event. It just sucked that travel stipends were given in a quite random fashion, and to Koreans only. Europeans just stopped coming except they had spots in the pools.
Regional qualifiers would bring more games and more fairness, as well as the opportunity to have regional champions.


Agreed, very exciting. I'd love to see guys like Dimaga show up to more MLGs for instance; qualifiers is a great way to diversify things

I'm also excited about plans to ensure players are rewarded for successful runs, and players who don't perform will no longer have a monopoly on pool spots.
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zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
November 21 2011 18:32 GMT
#139
I watched the entire interview and your vision of MLG is ambitious and I hope it works out in your favor! I watched Championship Sunday and enjoyed the event as a viewer. Hopefully MLG comes to Canada in 2012!
booshtv
Profile Joined June 2011
United States30 Posts
November 21 2011 19:03 GMT
#140
Would love to see more from Sundance re: different distribution channels. For instance, does MLG plan to use Youtube or Twitch as a primary partner in 2012, or is that just a secondary channel (and the main content comes from their own site). Why should MLG try match the quality of streaming when partners with much more experience could potentially do it much cheaper?

Managing different ways of delivering content to the consumer is the 2012 frontier.

Good interview nonetheless <3
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 21 2011 20:48 GMT
#141
LoL numbers make me sad because it's such a terrible game, I hope dota2 can take the market when its fully released. =.=

Anyway, great interview my only gripe is I was at work so I had to listen and not watch.. trying to shrink/open/shrink/open to see the questions was annoying! I just stopped and figured out the question based on his responses hah.
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Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
November 21 2011 20:50 GMT
#142
On November 21 2011 23:00 SevenAteNine wrote:
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big


I dont play LoL but i know that games that are streamed on official big events are featured in the game, that means when stream starts everybody that are online playing LoL they get notified that there is a stream, and they can watch it via game... thats why after 10 sec streams gets 90k viewers
Phelski
Profile Joined December 2010
United States142 Posts
November 21 2011 21:03 GMT
#143
he references espn a couple times in this, and right towards the says the way mlg presents the content will change. Possibly going back on tv?
Zyori.tv
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States770 Posts
November 21 2011 21:25 GMT
#144
great interview. Sundance is such a good speaker.
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
November 21 2011 21:27 GMT
#145
On November 22 2011 05:50 Bulkers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 23:00 SevenAteNine wrote:
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big


I dont play LoL but i know that games that are streamed on official big events are featured in the game, that means when stream starts everybody that are online playing LoL they get notified that there is a stream, and they can watch it via game... thats why after 10 sec streams gets 90k viewers


That also really helps when the LoL player base is at 32 million compared to SC2s 4.5 millions (according to sales, couldn't find anyother statistic).
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Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 21:32:30
November 21 2011 21:32 GMT
#146
LoL is free, so you wont find accurate "sales" info, anyways if imagine that every big tournament GSL, MLG, Dreamhack, ESL would be in partnership with Blizzard, and all those event would be possible to watch from battle.net 2.0, you log and you see big button and you watch. For sure we would have massive increase in viewer count.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
November 21 2011 21:35 GMT
#147
On November 22 2011 06:27 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 05:50 Bulkers wrote:
On November 21 2011 23:00 SevenAteNine wrote:
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big


I dont play LoL but i know that games that are streamed on official big events are featured in the game, that means when stream starts everybody that are online playing LoL they get notified that there is a stream, and they can watch it via game... thats why after 10 sec streams gets 90k viewers


That also really helps when the LoL player base is at 32 million compared to SC2s 4.5 millions (according to sales, couldn't find anyother statistic).


As was stated, LoL has the benefit of the free-to-play model. So more people understand it and are aware of the game combined with the stream being featured in-game upon login. LoL is certainly popular, but relatively speaking it hasn't really tapped that community as well as SC2 as worked with what they have. Also, from my understanding, the Moba community in general is split pretty heavily between HoN,LoL,Dota and Dota2 plus any other derivatives I am missing.
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
November 21 2011 21:36 GMT
#148
On November 22 2011 06:27 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 05:50 Bulkers wrote:
On November 21 2011 23:00 SevenAteNine wrote:
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big


I dont play LoL but i know that games that are streamed on official big events are featured in the game, that means when stream starts everybody that are online playing LoL they get notified that there is a stream, and they can watch it via game... thats why after 10 sec streams gets 90k viewers


That also really helps when the LoL player base is at 32 million compared to SC2s 4.5 millions (according to sales, couldn't find anyother statistic).


I once installed LoL and played intro. Wonder if they count me in the 32 million.
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twoscomp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States42 Posts
November 21 2011 21:54 GMT
#149
It really sounds like MLG has its head on right. They've continuously showed response to community feedback (albeit sometimes their hands are tied). I greatly look forward to what they have in store for us next season.
Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
November 21 2011 22:28 GMT
#150
So articulate. Love hearing him talk =P He should be brought on SoTG again
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 21 2011 22:51 GMT
#151
On November 22 2011 06:32 Bulkers wrote:
LoL is free, so you wont find accurate "sales" info, anyways if imagine that every big tournament GSL, MLG, Dreamhack, ESL would be in partnership with Blizzard, and all those event would be possible to watch from battle.net 2.0, you log and you see big button and you watch. For sure we would have massive increase in viewer count.

Fact is LoL has every day much more stream viewers than sc2 has. Without any big tournaments or announcements by Riot.
It has simply the bigger player base.

Sc2 fans should not always try to talk other games down, they can nicely exist next to each other.
Off-season = best season
Ladnil
Profile Joined July 2011
United States93 Posts
November 21 2011 23:13 GMT
#152
On November 22 2011 05:50 Bulkers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 23:00 SevenAteNine wrote:
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big


I dont play LoL but i know that games that are streamed on official big events are featured in the game, that means when stream starts everybody that are online playing LoL they get notified that there is a stream, and they can watch it via game... thats why after 10 sec streams gets 90k viewers

It's linked prominently within the game, but it still opens up in a browser like any other stream. Players who don't open it up don't count.
Have a nice day.
Fasterfood
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada166 Posts
November 21 2011 23:15 GMT
#153
On November 22 2011 05:50 Bulkers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 23:00 SevenAteNine wrote:
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big


I dont play LoL but i know that games that are streamed on official big events are featured in the game, that means when stream starts everybody that are online playing LoL they get notified that there is a stream, and they can watch it via game... thats why after 10 sec streams gets 90k viewers


That's pretty inaccurate. I can't believe this rumour is STILL going around. You can't watch lol in the client. There's a news feed, just like when you log into battle.net, however the lol news feed is regularly updated.

That being said, I wish blizzard would do a better job of posting when tournaments are coming up.
Romitelli
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
November 21 2011 23:30 GMT
#154
Wow, 30 million player base is absolutely nuts.
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fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
November 21 2011 23:40 GMT
#155
Surprised as to how interesting the interview could be. Who knows what esports have in store for us, theres nothing more than to wait and see
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
November 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#156
On November 22 2011 05:48 crms wrote:
LoL numbers make me sad because it's such a terrible game, I hope dota2 can take the market when its fully released. =.=

Anyway, great interview my only gripe is I was at work so I had to listen and not watch.. trying to shrink/open/shrink/open to see the questions was annoying! I just stopped and figured out the question based on his responses hah.


Why is LoL such a terrible game? I guess I should first say that I play LoL (and obviously enjoy it) but I do not feel it is a good spectator game... but I also feel dota 2 is also not a good spectator game (well technically I am referring to the original dota, but dota 2 will be very similar). Yes Dota 2 will come out with more and better features than what LoL is currently working on (they recently came out with a spectator mode) but I don't see why that will make dota 2 a good spectator game all of a sudden. + Show Spoiler +
It won't


On top of that, I love Valve, I played Dota for a few years, I enjoyed it for the most part, and I will very likely play Dota 2 (especially if it is free to play, which seems like the best idea for making plenty of money while increasing its popularity quickly) but in the end I am disappointed that they didn't try to tweak and improve the Dota formula in any way, and therefore I think that there is no way it will be a significantly better game to watch than LoL is (other than graphically).
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
November 22 2011 00:47 GMT
#157
Sundance is building a lot of platforms it seems :p

Some good questions; overall it was a lot of high level generic responses but i enjoyed hearing it. He's got a plan and that is the good part. Also, recognising the format issues is a big deal
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
November 22 2011 00:48 GMT
#158
On November 22 2011 06:27 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 05:50 Bulkers wrote:
On November 21 2011 23:00 SevenAteNine wrote:
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big


I dont play LoL but i know that games that are streamed on official big events are featured in the game, that means when stream starts everybody that are online playing LoL they get notified that there is a stream, and they can watch it via game... thats why after 10 sec streams gets 90k viewers


That also really helps when the LoL player base is at 32 million compared to SC2s 4.5 millions (according to sales, couldn't find anyother statistic).

Everyone who watches LoL plays LoL. The majority of people who watch SC2 don't actually play it
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
November 22 2011 00:52 GMT
#159
On November 22 2011 09:48 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 06:27 [17]Purple wrote:
On November 22 2011 05:50 Bulkers wrote:
On November 21 2011 23:00 SevenAteNine wrote:
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big


I dont play LoL but i know that games that are streamed on official big events are featured in the game, that means when stream starts everybody that are online playing LoL they get notified that there is a stream, and they can watch it via game... thats why after 10 sec streams gets 90k viewers


That also really helps when the LoL player base is at 32 million compared to SC2s 4.5 millions (according to sales, couldn't find anyother statistic).

Everyone who watches LoL plays LoL. The majority of people who watch SC2 don't actually play it


Source?
JawHun
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States151 Posts
November 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#160
This guy is such a baller! He is not killing esports...

Go Sundance Go!
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
November 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#161
On November 22 2011 09:52 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:48 floor exercise wrote:
On November 22 2011 06:27 [17]Purple wrote:
On November 22 2011 05:50 Bulkers wrote:
On November 21 2011 23:00 SevenAteNine wrote:
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big


I dont play LoL but i know that games that are streamed on official big events are featured in the game, that means when stream starts everybody that are online playing LoL they get notified that there is a stream, and they can watch it via game... thats why after 10 sec streams gets 90k viewers


That also really helps when the LoL player base is at 32 million compared to SC2s 4.5 millions (according to sales, couldn't find anyother statistic).

Everyone who watches LoL plays LoL. The majority of people who watch SC2 don't actually play it


Source?


There is 30 mln +/- people playing LoL.

And only 2mln playin sc2.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 22 2011 01:19 GMT
#162
On November 22 2011 10:09 mtn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:52 Chicane wrote:
On November 22 2011 09:48 floor exercise wrote:
On November 22 2011 06:27 [17]Purple wrote:
On November 22 2011 05:50 Bulkers wrote:
On November 21 2011 23:00 SevenAteNine wrote:
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big


I dont play LoL but i know that games that are streamed on official big events are featured in the game, that means when stream starts everybody that are online playing LoL they get notified that there is a stream, and they can watch it via game... thats why after 10 sec streams gets 90k viewers


That also really helps when the LoL player base is at 32 million compared to SC2s 4.5 millions (according to sales, couldn't find anyother statistic).

Everyone who watches LoL plays LoL. The majority of people who watch SC2 don't actually play it


Source?


There is 30 mln +/- people playing LoL.

And only 2mln playin sc2.


I thought it was 30 million accounts, most of which were alts and it was only a couple million unique accounts.
VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
November 22 2011 01:45 GMT
#163
LoL to replace SC2 at MLG! *PANIC!*

I think there is space for multiple games to exist and the communities to support them without hurting each other. I'm an SC2 fan, not LoL. I assume it works the other way around.
Greyhawk
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia110 Posts
November 22 2011 02:21 GMT
#164
i do like sundance's approach towards planning for sc2's future especially when he stated his opinion which was
"I don't even think the best starcraft 2 player in the world has even picked up the game yet". He really is preparing for the future of Starcraft 2. LOVE IT!
ShoCk-
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
November 22 2011 02:26 GMT
#165
Great interview!
Push 2 Harder
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
November 22 2011 02:32 GMT
#166
On November 22 2011 07:51 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 06:32 Bulkers wrote:
LoL is free, so you wont find accurate "sales" info, anyways if imagine that every big tournament GSL, MLG, Dreamhack, ESL would be in partnership with Blizzard, and all those event would be possible to watch from battle.net 2.0, you log and you see big button and you watch. For sure we would have massive increase in viewer count.

Fact is LoL has every day much more stream viewers than sc2 has. Without any big tournaments or announcements by Riot.
It has simply the bigger player base.

Sc2 fans should not always try to talk other games down, they can nicely exist next to each other.


you should probably articulate your facts first, cause they're not true
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
November 22 2011 02:35 GMT
#167
On November 22 2011 10:19 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 10:09 mtn wrote:
On November 22 2011 09:52 Chicane wrote:
On November 22 2011 09:48 floor exercise wrote:
On November 22 2011 06:27 [17]Purple wrote:
On November 22 2011 05:50 Bulkers wrote:
On November 21 2011 23:00 SevenAteNine wrote:
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big


I dont play LoL but i know that games that are streamed on official big events are featured in the game, that means when stream starts everybody that are online playing LoL they get notified that there is a stream, and they can watch it via game... thats why after 10 sec streams gets 90k viewers


That also really helps when the LoL player base is at 32 million compared to SC2s 4.5 millions (according to sales, couldn't find anyother statistic).

Everyone who watches LoL plays LoL. The majority of people who watch SC2 don't actually play it


Source?


There is 30 mln +/- people playing LoL.

And only 2mln playin sc2.


I thought it was 30 million accounts, most of which were alts and it was only a couple million unique accounts.


I heard LoL just passed WoW in active players. WoW has a little over 10 million active players, so LoL would have around that.
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skycaptain
Profile Joined October 2010
United States101 Posts
November 22 2011 02:37 GMT
#168
You guys shouldn't worry so much, LoL isn't replacing SC2 anytime soon. At Providence there were literally people standing in the LoL section watching Starcraft 2 because there was no room anywhere else. LoL might get bigger but I feel like three fourths of the people who attend MLG come for SC2. I can't speak for online viewership numbers but i imagine it's the same.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 03:08:19
November 22 2011 03:07 GMT
#169
The best player in the world that hasn't played SC2 yet isn't some random 12 year old. He's 19 and he plays StarCraft: Brood War.
XastoC
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada59 Posts
November 22 2011 03:12 GMT
#170
Love it!
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
November 22 2011 03:12 GMT
#171
I'll rather watch Halo than a MOBA...
#1 Terran hater
SecondSandwich
Profile Joined July 2008
United States319 Posts
November 22 2011 04:21 GMT
#172
Sundance has officially won my support. He really seems like he has taken the time to think about things and to make mlg reach its full potential. Keep it going :-)
"Whatever [flash] says is the best, is the best" -Artosis i!i!i!i!i!Find Match!i!i!i!i!!i
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
November 22 2011 04:27 GMT
#173
On November 22 2011 12:12 Highways wrote:
I'll rather watch Halo than a MOBA...


and 200k+ ppl prefer LoL
enzothebaker
Profile Joined March 2011
United States7 Posts
November 22 2011 04:46 GMT
#174
Sundance is such a boss. He really shows how coherent and thought out his vision of E-sports and the future already is. I'll be looking forward to MLG advancing the North American and global e-sports scene. When done so well I don't see how e-sports isn't already a massively popular thing, but I guess that might be a good thing for now.
For the Swarm
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 05:52:30
November 22 2011 05:40 GMT
#175
On November 22 2011 10:19 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 10:09 mtn wrote:
On November 22 2011 09:52 Chicane wrote:
On November 22 2011 09:48 floor exercise wrote:
On November 22 2011 06:27 [17]Purple wrote:
On November 22 2011 05:50 Bulkers wrote:
On November 21 2011 23:00 SevenAteNine wrote:
wow 90k lol viewers before the matches even started
its sure getting big


I dont play LoL but i know that games that are streamed on official big events are featured in the game, that means when stream starts everybody that are online playing LoL they get notified that there is a stream, and they can watch it via game... thats why after 10 sec streams gets 90k viewers


That also really helps when the LoL player base is at 32 million compared to SC2s 4.5 millions (according to sales, couldn't find anyother statistic).

Everyone who watches LoL plays LoL. The majority of people who watch SC2 don't actually play it


Source?


There is 30 mln +/- people playing LoL.

And only 2mln playin sc2.


I thought it was 30 million accounts, most of which were alts and it was only a couple million unique accounts.


Well, sure. There's alt accounts in there. But 5-6 multis per person? Not really - the "leveling up" and champion purchasing makes it pretty strongly favoring just having 1 account (or perhaps 1 smurf account and one main, so you can smurf when playing with newbie friends rather than dragging in high-leveled opponents into the game who will crush them - not a very fun newbie experience). But how do you argue with 1.3mil logged in at the same time? (There isn't really any point in being logged in to multiple accounts at the same time)

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/community-grows-32-million-players
There's a lot more stats here than just # of accounts registered - take a look!

By the way, this is a massive influx of new players within the last four months. Those year-old inactive accounts are a drop in the bucket. I suspect the opening of the Chinese server, coupled with a chinese team winning at IEM China not long ago, has aided this. If LoL starts winning over the massive chinese gaming community (again, F2P model helps here) of course then they're going to have some beastly numbers to show for it.

LoL's newbie experience is a lot better than HoN, for sure. Starting players off at 1500 Elo is a huge mistake, and making a new player put up with 20+ games of feeding hardcore and being harassed by their own team before they get the hang of the game (even SC2 has a way better newbie experience than that. And SC2 isn't much of a newbie-friendly game. Shit, I'd argue even BW has a better newbie experience than that!) DotA1 is primarily a who-you-know whether you have a decent newbie experience or not. DotA2 i expect will be implementing much of the same system that LoL has, where you start off picking whether you're experienced or not,

Because it has a friendly newbie experience, a lot of people have at LEAST tried out the game. As such, many players who do so are at least somewhat interested in watching top players play the game (out of curiousity, out of desire to improve, etc... you all see the popularity of streaming SC2 - LoL has the same effect.) even in disorganized "solo-q" settings, there are players who hit 20k viewers. When you remove that disorganized pub play atmosphere and put on a tourney that players have practiced for, it's that much more interesting to watch.

Now, there IS much more downtime in LoL than SC2, and I don't think the current casters are great at filling airspace, so we'll see how the scene improves. But I think it will be going places, especially with Riot finally getting a publically available observer mode running.
Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
November 22 2011 07:27 GMT
#176
Did i hear correct from the interview that League of Legends has over 30 million players while Starcraft 2 has only 3 ? Thats just insane.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 22 2011 07:42 GMT
#177

I watch both LoL and SC2, don't understand why there's gotta be all this LoL vs SC2
liftlift > tsm
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
November 22 2011 08:05 GMT
#178
On November 22 2011 16:42 wei2coolman wrote:

I watch both LoL and SC2, don't understand why there's gotta be all this LoL vs SC2


Because a lot of people that are fans of Dota/HoN want Lol to die beacause they think it's a lesser skilled game. It's obviously not going to so I don't see why people keeping hoping it to.

I'm pretty sure MLG is going to add Lol to the circuit after this though, 90k before games even started is massive and I wonder how much it ended up finally getting. And this is mostly NA since none of the EU teams were participating in the event.
Go go Alliance.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 08:37:21
November 22 2011 08:36 GMT
#179
I feel like HoN is going to be mostly a niche game in the MOBA scene. Sorry HoN devs, but you guys did a lot of things wrong, not the least of which is failing to expand into China, the biggest market for MOBA games.

The competition will mostly be between LoL and Dota 2 in the foreseeable future, with Blizzard's Dota also being a possible contender depending on how they market Blizzard Arcade. LoL already has a successful platform across the world, so it is really the task of Valve and Blizzard to make something happen. A business model like LoL's will help - people, especially in poorer countries, will generally prefer F2P games over retail games or worse, games with subscription models.

Assuming that Dota is eventually replaced, LoL is currently the game with everything going for it in terms of world-wide popularity, business model, and newbie friendliness. Until Dota 2 and Blizzard Dota can match that success, LoL is probably the safest market to go after, even if its not - in many people's eyes - a great eSport game compared to Dota/Dota 2.
SevenAteNine
Profile Joined February 2010
126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 10:10:28
November 22 2011 10:09 GMT
#180
to make it clear 4.5 million people playing lol every single day, 11million every month its not suprise their numbers are as high as it is and its only going higher
omnomnomnom
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
November 22 2011 10:12 GMT
#181
thanks kennigit <3
OGS:levelchange
spajn
Profile Joined August 2011
34 Posts
November 22 2011 10:57 GMT
#182
did he say 34 million leagues of legend players? and 4 million sc2 players? that cant be right
dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
November 22 2011 11:06 GMT
#183
About LoL ... I got an account, installed game, got queue first time I tried logging in, uninstalled. Hai, I'm one of the so called 32 mln.
shur
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany35 Posts
November 22 2011 11:31 GMT
#184
great interview! excellent (viewpoint) questions as usual.
and digiovanni is quite a nice and reasonable guy. how can one not agree with him.
LF9
Profile Joined November 2009
United States537 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 11:41:18
November 22 2011 11:37 GMT
#185
The extended series does need to go in favor of a second flat out bo3. This "2nd set is a best of 7 with the loser down 1 game to 2" bullshit is kind of unfair for the player who won the winner bracket and went through the tournament without dropping to the loser bracket to play a game. When the winner of the LB comes up to the finals to play the WB winner, he should have to beat him in two straight up bo3s in a row in order to win, as it's always been with the double elimination format. I'm not saying this had anything to do with MLG providence, obviously the outcome would have been the same, leenock beat naniwa 2-1, then he beat him again 2-0. But what if it had been leenock wins 2-1, then, leenock wins . . . 2-2? That doesn't make any sense to me. That's not a best of anything. You can't win a box 2-2, or 3-3, or anything like that.

And the SC2 number is under-inflated because of the online-only system, what with users not being able to have multiple accounts. LoL is a free game and you can have as many accounts as you want. If 5 million people play, and each player has a few accounts, there you have your stupid large number. Each account in SC is a person physically buying the game, whereas in LoL, thousands and thousands of people have tried the game and just stopped playing because they didn't like it, and thousands and thousands more are players with 5 or 6 accounts.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
November 22 2011 11:49 GMT
#186
What most people dont understand is that LoL is free and is casual friendly both of which Starcraft is not.

Who cares how many players there are for LoL what harm does it do to starcraft ?
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
November 22 2011 11:51 GMT
#187
On November 22 2011 19:57 spajn wrote:
did he say 34 million leagues of legend players? and 4 million sc2 players? that cant be right


There have been 34 million League of Legend accounts created so far, how many of those are unique accounts no one knows. SC 2 sold over 5 million copies in the first 6 months, Blizzard hasn't release any updated numbers since then.
TemujinGK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States483 Posts
November 22 2011 14:18 GMT
#188
He seems earnestly to be excited about the future, but also not going to lie, it feels like he is a little downtrodden. Maybe it is cautious optimism, thoughts?
"Pikachu and Protoss are both yellow, Coincidence?" ~apexMorroW
mpanikos
Profile Joined October 2010
Greece20 Posts
November 22 2011 14:32 GMT
#189
good footage,gratz for the work!
TutsiRebel
Profile Joined August 2011
United States172 Posts
November 22 2011 15:34 GMT
#190
I don't understand how people could watch, much less play a MOBA
I can bhop irl
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 22 2011 16:52 GMT
#191
On November 22 2011 17:36 Azarkon wrote:
I feel like HoN is going to be mostly a niche game in the MOBA scene. Sorry HoN devs, but you guys did a lot of things wrong, not the least of which is failing to expand into China, the biggest market for MOBA games.

The competition will mostly be between LoL and Dota 2 in the foreseeable future, with Blizzard's Dota also being a possible contender depending on how they market Blizzard Arcade. LoL already has a successful platform across the world, so it is really the task of Valve and Blizzard to make something happen. A business model like LoL's will help - people, especially in poorer countries, will generally prefer F2P games over retail games or worse, games with subscription models.

Assuming that Dota is eventually replaced, LoL is currently the game with everything going for it in terms of world-wide popularity, business model, and newbie friendliness. Until Dota 2 and Blizzard Dota can match that success, LoL is probably the safest market to go after, even if its not - in many people's eyes - a great eSport game compared to Dota/Dota 2.

Actually, you're completely wrong. LoL is the niche game. It draws something completely different out of the MOBA scene. HoN originated from a close clone of DOTA, while LoL drew from the basic MOBA structure, but came up with something different. And with brilliant marketing, LoL will be the only MOBA that is going to survive the DOTA2 release. It has its own niche, ergo the only reason why it will survive. I think you don't really understand the word "niche".
liftlift > tsm
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
November 22 2011 17:25 GMT
#192
i cannot wait to see what MLGhas planne din 2012. great view.. going to bea good 2012
Live and Let Die!
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
November 22 2011 17:27 GMT
#193
On November 22 2011 20:06 dakalro wrote:
About LoL ... I got an account, installed game, got queue first time I tried logging in, uninstalled. Hai, I'm one of the so called 32 mln.

yeh ivew installed it and havent played it once..im another hehe.
Live and Let Die!
growlizing
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway122 Posts
November 22 2011 17:58 GMT
#194
Nice interview, thanks
MingusDew
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States77 Posts
November 22 2011 18:14 GMT
#195
As a new Starcraft 2 player (this was my first time following and watching a major tournament), this interview gives me great hope and ambition for the future of Starcraft and its community, as well as e-sports as a whole.
Do not worry if you have built your castles in the air. They are where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
Panicc
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany163 Posts
November 22 2011 18:20 GMT
#196
On November 23 2011 02:27 Tommylew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 20:06 dakalro wrote:
About LoL ... I got an account, installed game, got queue first time I tried logging in, uninstalled. Hai, I'm one of the so called 32 mln.

yeh ivew installed it and havent played it once..im another hehe.



Yes and like there are millions of sc2 players who dont play anymore Some even have more accs like myself :D

Its funny how you try to protect your game. Face it. LoL is more popular and that is only blizzards fail cause they could do so much more to promote starcraft2... They are actually doing nothing to promote esports or sc2 and that is....
Golden Ghost
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands1041 Posts
November 22 2011 18:36 GMT
#197
I finally had the time to watch this interview. Nice questions and well thought out answers. All in all a good job.
Life is to give and take. You take a vacation and you give to the poor.
Arch00
Profile Joined July 2010
United States233 Posts
November 22 2011 19:09 GMT
#198
Really great and informative interview. :D
www.twitch.tv/arch00 ~ Arch.391 SC2
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 22 2011 21:28 GMT
#199
On November 22 2011 17:36 Azarkon wrote:
I feel like HoN is going to be mostly a niche game in the MOBA scene. Sorry HoN devs, but you guys did a lot of things wrong, not the least of which is failing to expand into China, the biggest market for MOBA games.

The competition will mostly be between LoL and Dota 2 in the foreseeable future, with Blizzard's Dota also being a possible contender depending on how they market Blizzard Arcade. LoL already has a successful platform across the world, so it is really the task of Valve and Blizzard to make something happen. A business model like LoL's will help - people, especially in poorer countries, will generally prefer F2P games over retail games or worse, games with subscription models.

Assuming that Dota is eventually replaced, LoL is currently the game with everything going for it in terms of world-wide popularity, business model, and newbie friendliness. Until Dota 2 and Blizzard Dota can match that success, LoL is probably the safest market to go after, even if its not - in many people's eyes - a great eSport game compared to Dota/Dota 2.


I think LoL actually costs more to play than just a straight up buy the game play the game. Unless you grind for like 5 years to get every hero. So I think what Valve did with TF2 having a F2P but also buy option will be best.
Gengar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States13 Posts
November 23 2011 01:20 GMT
#200
This interview paired with this weekend (and this years MLG events this year for that matter) really give me hope for the future of esports in the US. I really gained so much respect for sundance after watching this. He is the man! Not some money hungry whore for more viewers, he really has that passion for esports that I have had for years and Im so glad hes in charge. MLG FIGHTING! WOOOO! Hes got my money.
RobinTheMadTerran
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom8 Posts
November 23 2011 15:41 GMT
#201
Really great interview but is anyone else disappointing that Sundance isn't a flamboyant camp Italian man?
Gold Terran living 'Life in the Middle' DegreesOfMediocrity
collegeBored
Profile Joined November 2002
United States1524 Posts
November 23 2011 20:20 GMT
#202
34mil on LOL and 4mil on SC2? i call BS
The stupid neither forgive nor forget, the naive forgive and forget, the wise forgive but never forget.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
November 23 2011 21:35 GMT
#203
LoL streams always get some pretty amazing numbers-- especially since every time there's a major tournament, Riot changes the splashscreen of the client to advertise it and gives a streamlink.
:3
ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
November 23 2011 21:40 GMT
#204
off topic: does anyone know where there are more interviews? this tournament only seemed to have like 10 of em and most of em were esfi...
Tremor
Profile Joined February 2010
United States92 Posts
November 23 2011 22:17 GMT
#205
Thanks for the interview, really appreciate it
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac? - George Carlin
cydereal
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States193 Posts
November 24 2011 02:40 GMT
#206
This man is great for eSports. Eloquent, driven, and importantly, a gamer himself.

Great interview!
Smackzilla
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States539 Posts
November 30 2011 22:53 GMT
#207
So in the interview, Sundance mentions a viewership goal of 300k+. Has anyone seen a press release or info from MLG on whether they hit their goals at providence?
You see a mousetrap. I see free cheese and a f&%*ing challenge - Scroobius Pip
gradotude
Profile Joined October 2009
United States196 Posts
November 30 2011 23:35 GMT
#208
On November 24 2011 05:20 collegeBored wrote:
34mil on LOL and 4mil on SC2? i call BS


What's so hard to believe about it? LoL is Free. SC2 is 50 dollars.
bLah.
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia497 Posts
December 01 2011 00:23 GMT
#209
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/news/community-grows-32-million-players
moba games have always been highly played, but what made lol such a hit is that it's a good game + it's free + marketing is fenomenal, riot games support that game so much, they give money for tournaments and stuff like that.
basically riot games currently supports their game more than any other company including blizzard. blizz should learn from them.
but yea, good game with great payment model and it's not that weird.

+you just gotta understand that sc2 isn't for everyone, it's pretty demanding game and will always be less played than some easier games
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