EPTCocA Incident Handled Correctly? - Page 8
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
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ZorBa.G
Australia279 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:36 Hattori_Hanzo wrote: I see that you are a progamer yourself. Therefore your words carry some weight in this community. I have also taken into account of posters from Singapore and their opinion on this incident. I have thus decided to cancel business plans for a US$120,000 Winner-take-all tournament operating out of Singapore on Blizzard's SEA server due to the lack of professionalism by both the professional community and their fan base. Edit: Grammar. What, is this guy trolling? If you were seriously someone looking to associate your company with the community, you wouldn't get involved with these types of threads. It's very unprofessional. However, if your serious. This is actually a loss since nothing big ever happens on the SEA server..... like ever.... lol. | ||
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how
United States538 Posts
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Joseph123
Bulgaria1144 Posts
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Lord_J
Kenya1085 Posts
What Coca did wrong was a matter of form, not substance. It's okay to forfeit a match in a tournament (provided that you haven't made a commitment to the tournament organizers to play regardless of your convenience), but the way to do it is not to play the match and decide, after having won, to leave the game. Nor should ESV TV have apparently found out about Coca's decision to forfeit by seeing him leave a game he was winning during their broadcast. For his poor handling of the situation, he should at the very least face some kind of formal reprimand, and I don't blame ESV TV at all if they want to ban him from their tournament for a while. However, the penalties Coca is facing beyond that strike me as disproportionate to his wrongdoing. I don't think they're outrageous, but I don't think they're appropriate, either. | ||
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Alver
United States177 Posts
while the punishment seems slightly harsh, i dont wanna see any players in code s who dont try their hardest to win. | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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TheBomb
237 Posts
Its stupid and immature and should be punished, otherwise what stops things like Savior match fixing in proleague? | ||
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AndreiDaGiant
United States394 Posts
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SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
That's pretty fucking stupid for something that really did not affect him nor the matches much at all. Hell, Byun got knocked out by Creator the following round, and CoCa had nothing to gain by playing more anyways. On November 17 2011 13:58 TheBomb wrote: Are you kidding me? This is trivial? So what about the Code S spot that is on the line? Of course its match fixing when there is Code S spot on the line. Its stupid and immature and should be punished, otherwise what stops things like Savior match fixing in proleague? It was a Code A spot, and it was only a QUALIFIER, and Byun still got knocked out by CreatorPrime. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On November 17 2011 13:58 TheBomb wrote: Are you kidding me? This is trivial? So what about the Code S spot that is on the line? Of course its match fixing when there is Code S spot on the line. Its stupid and immature and should be punished, otherwise what stops things like Savior match fixing in proleague? LOL. Dont post stupid shit when you have no fucking clue whats going on. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
Good job peeps! | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
I still view this as a minor mistake on the grand scale of potential wrongs a player can commit. At the end of the day i feel it was harsh, but any less and you're asking multiple bodies to punish differently. It doesn't work, so what we got is the best we're going get under this regime so i'm fine with it. SC2 is still in the stone age on things like this. | ||
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johngalt90
United States357 Posts
On November 17 2011 14:00 ch33psh33p wrote: LOL. Dont post stupid shit when you have no fucking clue whats going on. either he doesnt know what the savior scandal was or he is too stupid to make the obvious distinction between this and savior either way he has no business posting on this topic | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
the incident hurts slayers, coca and byun. now the direct punishment on coca was arguably too hard for what it did to him. however you're fucking over your teams reputation hard by doing that. they raised you, made you a good player. slayers dished out punishment that they saw fit. honestly if coca was teamless and he did that he might have been suspended for a while, that's it. slayers in essesnce forced him to relinquish his code s spot for the sake of their team. some argue that reputation isn't as important as coca's career, that's up to you. but just know that this incident hurts slayers credibility and they can't let that happen. | ||
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SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
On November 17 2011 14:04 shawster wrote: you guys are looking at it from the wrong angle the incident hurts slayers, coca and byun. now the direct punishment on coca was arguably too hard for what it did to him. however you're fucking over your teams reputation hard by doing that. they raised you, made you a good player. slayers dished out punishment that they saw fit. honestly if coca was teamless and he did that he might have been suspended for a while, that's it. slayers in essesnce forced him to relinquish his code s spot for the sake of their team. some argue that reputation isn't as important as coca's career, that's up to you. but just know that this incident hurts slayers credibility and they can't let that happen. CoCa was already a good player before joining SlayerS. | ||
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RaLakedaimon
United States1564 Posts
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Modernist
United States89 Posts
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Zerguru
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
"more practice. its done all the time. he was only trying to help a friend. it was only a mistake. tournament didnt matter much, etc." its nothing but pitiful excuses. my korean family does not take excuses. what is done is done, take responsibility for it and do what needs to be done. maybe the punishment is too harsh but man up, go through it and come back stronger. this is what boxer wants i'm sure and that is why such harsh punishment was put down. (if he does breakdown, it only shows his weakness. if coca is indeed a character that would take this negatively and think of leaving the team, he definitely does not belong with slayers) dont be such cry babies, guys. | ||
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