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noax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada150 Posts
November 09 2011 21:13 GMT
#21
Wow i am deaf too! ( 75% ) that would be so great if they have subtitle! i mean in rebroadcast that would be nice to have some subs! cuz im trying to hear what they say but it's hard just like the Nydus sound lol!
FAAAwesome
Profile Joined September 2011
15 Posts
November 09 2011 21:17 GMT
#22
On November 10 2011 06:10 _Depression wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:04 FAAAwesome wrote:
P.S. Am i the only one who gets annoyed by rapid fire casting? Look at the announcers for other sports. They give concise descriptions of the action plus some good feedback and make good note of particular parts of the action. Only in Esports is there such a plague as machine-gun-casting. It sounds like matches are being announced by the cast of "The View".


The difference between SC2 and other sports is the amount of things going on at any given second. Consider that an SC2 pro has an APM (probably) over 200 (no I don't keep up with average APM of pro players); that's 3 actions per second by both players. In baseball, there's a pitch thrown every 20 seconds or so; in football, there's 20-30 seconds in between each play. The amount of action in SC2 vs. any other sport is staggering when you think about it.


I'm just saying if we want the general public to find our sport entertaining to watch, it would probably be better if it didn't appear were all doing massive amounts of awesome cocaine.
_Depression
Profile Joined October 2011
United States251 Posts
November 09 2011 21:19 GMT
#23
I'm working on a post now to hopefully get a community initiative going. I'll personally be transcribing the GSL Code S matches from this morning (starting with Group C) and uploading them to Google Docs as I finish them. If anyone wants to join up, I'll have the thread for people to sign up ready within a half-hour.
Noktix
Profile Joined May 2011
United States492 Posts
November 09 2011 21:20 GMT
#24
On November 10 2011 05:25 FAAAwesome wrote:
I'm training to be a court reporter at the moment. I've always thought that when i get a solid 200 words per minute, i would like to start offering Computer Assisted Real-Time Translation to add captions(subtitles) to tournaments. I'm not sure what the demand for this would be.

If anyone thinks it would be nice to have subtitles on tournaments, message me. I'll start working on a dictionary to take real time dictation from pro casters for tournaments immediately if any tournament hosts could offer me a job. Would be fun as hell.

On a plus note, if i do captioning for a tournament, i could turn everything i write into a typed-out transcript that people could read later. Maybe post the transcript of a tournament on TL for people to read if they don't have access to a VOD or are in a place where watching a video isn't convenient.


200 words per minute? Is that even possible, lol? I type near 100 wpm and have seldom met people that were even as fast as i am..
Mr.SoloDolo
Profile Joined June 2011
American Samoa90 Posts
November 09 2011 21:21 GMT
#25
On November 10 2011 06:17 FAAAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:10 _Depression wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:04 FAAAwesome wrote:
P.S. Am i the only one who gets annoyed by rapid fire casting? Look at the announcers for other sports. They give concise descriptions of the action plus some good feedback and make good note of particular parts of the action. Only in Esports is there such a plague as machine-gun-casting. It sounds like matches are being announced by the cast of "The View".


The difference between SC2 and other sports is the amount of things going on at any given second. Consider that an SC2 pro has an APM (probably) over 200 (no I don't keep up with average APM of pro players); that's 3 actions per second by both players. In baseball, there's a pitch thrown every 20 seconds or so; in football, there's 20-30 seconds in between each play. The amount of action in SC2 vs. any other sport is staggering when you think about it.


I'm just saying if we want the general public to find our sport entertaining to watch, it would probably be better if it didn't appear were all doing massive amounts of awesome cocaine.


It's not SC2's job or the casters job to cater to the general public. I don't want people to slow down or dumb it down to appeal to the general public. I really don't give a damn if that costs viewers. I think a lot of people agree with me but I could be wrong.
Incontrol+Idra+Tyler Fighting
matthras
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 21:24:40
November 09 2011 21:22 GMT
#26
It's always been on my mind, because I'm hearing impaired myself and whilst I don't completely understand what the casters say 100% of the time, I can still hear their enthusiasm and when they get hyped. But I've never been able to figure out how one would get started with such an initiative.

@Nagisama - Even though my younger brother isn't hard of hearing, he tends to turn on captions on the TV when he does his homework in front of it. It's not so much purely a benefit for the hard of hearing; it can add a lot of convenience for normal people since they only need to rely on one sense (sight, as opposed to sight + hearing) for all their information.

Live captioning would be greatly welcomed, but given that SC2 moves rather fast I'm not sure if they can set up the system such that the captions appear fast enough so that the action on the screen doesn't fall behind. I suppose they can set up a small delay to align with the captions and such.

If I knew how to do the editing work (re: Torte de Lini's suggestion), I'd love to add to this initiative :D

On November 10 2011 06:20 Noktix wrote:
200 words per minute? Is that even possible, lol? I type near 100 wpm and have seldom met people that were even as fast as i am..


The stenographer's keyboard isn't a normal keyboard. Look it up. They type out the words phonetically and the system they have set in place translates it into actual words.
Make drones. Make drones. Make drones.
FAAAwesome
Profile Joined September 2011
15 Posts
November 09 2011 21:23 GMT
#27
On November 10 2011 06:20 Noktix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 05:25 FAAAwesome wrote:
I'm training to be a court reporter at the moment. I've always thought that when i get a solid 200 words per minute, i would like to start offering Computer Assisted Real-Time Translation to add captions(subtitles) to tournaments. I'm not sure what the demand for this would be.

If anyone thinks it would be nice to have subtitles on tournaments, message me. I'll start working on a dictionary to take real time dictation from pro casters for tournaments immediately if any tournament hosts could offer me a job. Would be fun as hell.

On a plus note, if i do captioning for a tournament, i could turn everything i write into a typed-out transcript that people could read later. Maybe post the transcript of a tournament on TL for people to read if they don't have access to a VOD or are in a place where watching a video isn't convenient.


200 words per minute? Is that even possible, lol? I type near 100 wpm and have seldom met people that were even as fast as i am..


By and by i'm going to be accurate at about 225 WPM. Look up stenograph machine. Its one strange looking device, but it does the job. Basically i push several keys at once to write words or even whole phrases.
therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
November 09 2011 21:25 GMT
#28
How do you deals with nukes if u are deaf?
Tekken ProGamer
FAAAwesome
Profile Joined September 2011
15 Posts
November 09 2011 21:25 GMT
#29
On November 10 2011 06:21 Mr.SoloDolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:17 FAAAwesome wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:10 _Depression wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:04 FAAAwesome wrote:
P.S. Am i the only one who gets annoyed by rapid fire casting? Look at the announcers for other sports. They give concise descriptions of the action plus some good feedback and make good note of particular parts of the action. Only in Esports is there such a plague as machine-gun-casting. It sounds like matches are being announced by the cast of "The View".


The difference between SC2 and other sports is the amount of things going on at any given second. Consider that an SC2 pro has an APM (probably) over 200 (no I don't keep up with average APM of pro players); that's 3 actions per second by both players. In baseball, there's a pitch thrown every 20 seconds or so; in football, there's 20-30 seconds in between each play. The amount of action in SC2 vs. any other sport is staggering when you think about it.


I'm just saying if we want the general public to find our sport entertaining to watch, it would probably be better if it didn't appear were all doing massive amounts of awesome cocaine.


It's not SC2's job or the casters job to cater to the general public. I don't want people to slow down or dumb it down to appeal to the general public. I really don't give a damn if that costs viewers. I think a lot of people agree with me but I could be wrong.


I can appreciate the "i am number 1" attitude, and in general its a good sentiment to live life by, but we're going for grand scale here. If we want professional attention we have to climb out of our parents basements and start acting like professionals.
Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
November 09 2011 21:28 GMT
#30
I think this is a definite possibility. It would really help.
Right now we are headed in the right direction. YouTubes transcribe audio is pretty good but sometimes it fills me with lulz. :D
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matthras
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia32 Posts
November 09 2011 21:29 GMT
#31
On November 10 2011 06:25 therockmanxx wrote:
How do you deals with nukes if u are deaf?


I believe the sidebar gives a 'Nuclear Launch Detected'. But basically, yes, there's no way for them to know otherwise. Same goes for Nydus worms.
Make drones. Make drones. Make drones.
FAAAwesome
Profile Joined September 2011
15 Posts
November 09 2011 21:31 GMT
#32
How could i contact Day9? I'm not the greatest player, but i got to my level because of that guy. I would be more than willing to caption his show free of charge.BA/*BG "be a better gamer."
_Depression
Profile Joined October 2011
United States251 Posts
November 09 2011 21:57 GMT
#33
So my thread is up, I'm going to start working on Code S Group C right now.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=284198
Yip12343
Profile Joined December 2010
120 Posts
November 09 2011 21:58 GMT
#34
Maybe Twitch could add a subtitle button(for stream) as well as MLG, and others? :D ! Just an idea.But GL to your friend <3 <3 gogo growth esports ^_^
dafunk
Profile Joined January 2009
France521 Posts
November 09 2011 22:00 GMT
#35
On November 10 2011 05:25 FAAAwesome wrote:
I'm training to be a court reporter at the moment. I've always thought that when i get a solid 200 words per minute, i would like to start offering Computer Assisted Real-Time Translation to add captions(subtitles) to tournaments. I'm not sure what the demand for this would be.

If anyone thinks it would be nice to have subtitles on tournaments, message me. I'll start working on a dictionary to take real time dictation from pro casters for tournaments immediately if any tournament hosts could offer me a job. Would be fun as hell.

On a plus note, if i do captioning for a tournament, i could turn everything i write into a typed-out transcript that people could read later. Maybe post the transcript of a tournament on TL for people to read if they don't have access to a VOD or are in a place where watching a video isn't convenient.


Do this. Now.

Someone hire this guy.
Bro_Stone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States510 Posts
November 09 2011 22:01 GMT
#36
the niche is so small that it wouldn't be worth filling.
Stim Go Go GO!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 09 2011 22:06 GMT
#37
I can so see the following scene:

Organizer: Ladies and gentleman, we have two great announcements to make before we start up this awesome tournament!
First of, we are very happy to announce that this is the very first tournament, whose commentary will be live subtitled by professional court reporter!
Court Reporter (thinking): Let's do it! Got plenty of practise in courts, now I have to show what I am made of!
Second, we announce the comeback of one of the greatest and most influencial foreign commentators of all time! Klazart!
Court Reporter: fuuu.....
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
November 10 2011 08:42 GMT
#38
From a technical standpoint it wouldn't be hard to do at all for VODs and the likes of the Day9 Daily (where it'd be very worthwhile, I can't imagine what learning SC2 would be like without some of those dailies!). Something like baking in an SRT file is easy to do.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 08:47:33
November 10 2011 08:47 GMT
#39
Hm, that would be difficult to implement. I think reading Live Report threads would be the best for him, even if they are often filled with a good bit of trash, there's always somebody who's actually live-reporting.

edit: Of course, this would be very do-able for VoD's. But not as much for live matches, of course.
memes are a dish best served dank
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
November 10 2011 09:36 GMT
#40
This is pretty interesting, I'd be willing to invest some time and help out.. Being able to watch casts in class would be pretty cool :D
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