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caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
November 09 2011 15:46 GMT
#541
On November 10 2011 00:43 aebriol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 00:34 SolidMustard wrote:
On November 09 2011 21:13 chestbrah93 wrote:
[image loading]

User was banned for this post.


User was banned for this ? Would I be banned too for showing some support to this guy ? tbh it's the OP who doesn't deserve to belong to this community... but maybe he has some well-placed friends or smth

He was probably banned because the word isn't an acceptable term to use ...


zero content post, just an image macro and a meme. Plus yeah, that kind of language is not generally accepted, and it was the users first post.

All these powers combined = ban
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2577 Posts
November 09 2011 15:49 GMT
#542
On November 10 2011 00:41 Zandar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 00:04 crms wrote:
I'd also like a response from tastosis seeing as they hyped this event quite a bit, I hope they know of all the troubles and stop hyping. ~_~


I agree with this. It felt a bit weird today during their GSL cast they only mentioned how great the tournament was. Made me like them a bit less. (just from 100% likable to 99%)
When being in the frontline and all eyes pointed at you already because you have been drinking with that gus guy, you could at least say something like: we can't go in details but unfortunately some things went really wrong too and we feel sorry for people who were treated badly and hope everything will be solved.

I think it's really important to them as professionals that they represent the organizations they work with in the most positive light possible. It's not really their place to use the platform GOM gives them to trash talk someone else they've done work for, even if (as in this case) the criticism is entirely valid. We have to remember that Tasteless and Artosis aren't just dudes we all love that log on and cast games, they're employees of large organizations and depend on their excellent reputations as professionals that do their best for whoever hires them for their livelihood.
The frumious Bandersnatch
rijndael
Profile Joined July 2011
Philippines15 Posts
November 09 2011 15:51 GMT
#543
State of the game would probably be a better place for Dan to say his piece on the whole thing rather than on the GSL stage, seeing as they're paid to be prim and proper on that.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
November 09 2011 15:55 GMT
#544
I agree, Tastosis shouldn't talk about that even or if they did they shouldn't talk about those problems since it's not the place to talk about that kind of problems.

SOTG would be the right choice.
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
November 09 2011 15:55 GMT
#545
On November 09 2011 23:53 TissTuss wrote:
yeah this gus guy might not be that awesome but why do I get the urge to kill people saying *this hurts esports*?

it feels like its the justin bieber comments of starcraft 2.

The PPSL had a huge chance to promote the SEA E-Sports community. However, the bottom line is that Gus Ledesma, the so called mastermind behind the PPSL event was completely unqualified to run such an event. From what I have gathered, Gus Ledesma ruined what could have been SEA's break out event into the global E-Sports scene (Tastosis, top Koreans). That in my book is ruining/killing E-Sports in the SEA region. I guarantee you that IGN is never going to want to deal with the SEA region ever again nor other organizations. I sincerely hope that this isn't the case.
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
Achaia
Profile Joined July 2010
United States643 Posts
November 09 2011 15:57 GMT
#546
Man I can't believe this guy was actually trusted with all of this stuff. I gotta think that this isn't his first time being a deceptive asshole. How in the hell did he get to be in charge of this event? This guy needs to be banned from eSports. The horrible behavior and lack of character that he's displayed throughout this whole situation is despicable. It makes me sad not only as a StarCraft 2 fan but as a human that this guy even exists.
http://www.youtube.com/SCBattleGrounds
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 09 2011 15:59 GMT
#547
On November 09 2011 23:53 TissTuss wrote:
yeah this gus guy might not be that awesome but why do I get the urge to kill people saying *this hurts esports*?

it feels like its the justin bieber comments of starcraft 2.


Yeah he just took some money and got a girl almost to prision, plus tried to blackmail moonglade... That's "Justin Bieber" for you!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
November 09 2011 16:02 GMT
#548
My God, this thread is such bullshit. Gus gtfo you thief
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
November 09 2011 16:13 GMT
#549
On November 10 2011 00:49 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 00:41 Zandar wrote:
On November 10 2011 00:04 crms wrote:
I'd also like a response from tastosis seeing as they hyped this event quite a bit, I hope they know of all the troubles and stop hyping. ~_~


I agree with this. It felt a bit weird today during their GSL cast they only mentioned how great the tournament was. Made me like them a bit less. (just from 100% likable to 99%)
When being in the frontline and all eyes pointed at you already because you have been drinking with that gus guy, you could at least say something like: we can't go in details but unfortunately some things went really wrong too and we feel sorry for people who were treated badly and hope everything will be solved.

I think it's really important to them as professionals that they represent the organizations they work with in the most positive light possible. It's not really their place to use the platform GOM gives them to trash talk someone else they've done work for, even if (as in this case) the criticism is entirely valid. We have to remember that Tasteless and Artosis aren't just dudes we all love that log on and cast games, they're employees of large organizations and depend on their excellent reputations as professionals that do their best for whoever hires them for their livelihood.


Thanks for poining that out, I guess that's the case. They probably even have a contract that doesn't allow them to.
Still for me personally, pretending bad stuff didn't happen makes professionals really look bad. Keep being positive about the organisation you work for even if they did something wrong never feels right. Honesty goes a long way, so even when you talk about bad stuff, in the end people might respect your organisation even more because you don't cover stuff up.

Like when GOM quickly removed the part of Jinro saying he could hear casters in the booth, that's bad. How IPL quickly reacted, that's good.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
November 09 2011 16:32 GMT
#550
On November 10 2011 01:13 Zandar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 00:49 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On November 10 2011 00:41 Zandar wrote:
On November 10 2011 00:04 crms wrote:
I'd also like a response from tastosis seeing as they hyped this event quite a bit, I hope they know of all the troubles and stop hyping. ~_~


I agree with this. It felt a bit weird today during their GSL cast they only mentioned how great the tournament was. Made me like them a bit less. (just from 100% likable to 99%)
When being in the frontline and all eyes pointed at you already because you have been drinking with that gus guy, you could at least say something like: we can't go in details but unfortunately some things went really wrong too and we feel sorry for people who were treated badly and hope everything will be solved.

I think it's really important to them as professionals that they represent the organizations they work with in the most positive light possible. It's not really their place to use the platform GOM gives them to trash talk someone else they've done work for, even if (as in this case) the criticism is entirely valid. We have to remember that Tasteless and Artosis aren't just dudes we all love that log on and cast games, they're employees of large organizations and depend on their excellent reputations as professionals that do their best for whoever hires them for their livelihood.


Thanks for poining that out, I guess that's the case. They probably even have a contract that doesn't allow them to.
Still for me personally, pretending bad stuff didn't happen makes professionals really look bad. Keep being positive about the organisation you work for even if they did something wrong never feels right. Honesty goes a long way, so even when you talk about bad stuff, in the end people might respect your organisation even more because you don't cover stuff up.

Like when GOM quickly removed the part of Jinro saying he could hear casters in the booth, that's bad. How IPL quickly reacted, that's good.



Keep in mind that the problem was PPSL was basically Gus himself. The other people involved, the audience, the players, they didn't do anything wrong. They can't just say "Wow that event was awful" on air at GSL, that'd be incredibly rude and disrespectful to all the innocent bystanders in some way involved in the tourny. Like people have said, if Artosis gets on SotG, that's a better place to talk about it because he can explain what was actually wrong without just giving a big, blanket statement that the tournament was bad.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
MagicMule19
Profile Joined September 2011
82 Posts
November 09 2011 16:34 GMT
#551
Gus, fuck you. Esports does not want you.
In China Too Young is just a name
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
November 09 2011 16:38 GMT
#552
this apology is like hitler apologising for gassing the jews

User was temp banned for this post.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 16:40:10
November 09 2011 16:39 GMT
#553
On November 10 2011 01:32 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 01:13 Zandar wrote:
On November 10 2011 00:49 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On November 10 2011 00:41 Zandar wrote:
On November 10 2011 00:04 crms wrote:
I'd also like a response from tastosis seeing as they hyped this event quite a bit, I hope they know of all the troubles and stop hyping. ~_~


I agree with this. It felt a bit weird today during their GSL cast they only mentioned how great the tournament was. Made me like them a bit less. (just from 100% likable to 99%)
When being in the frontline and all eyes pointed at you already because you have been drinking with that gus guy, you could at least say something like: we can't go in details but unfortunately some things went really wrong too and we feel sorry for people who were treated badly and hope everything will be solved.

I think it's really important to them as professionals that they represent the organizations they work with in the most positive light possible. It's not really their place to use the platform GOM gives them to trash talk someone else they've done work for, even if (as in this case) the criticism is entirely valid. We have to remember that Tasteless and Artosis aren't just dudes we all love that log on and cast games, they're employees of large organizations and depend on their excellent reputations as professionals that do their best for whoever hires them for their livelihood.


Thanks for poining that out, I guess that's the case. They probably even have a contract that doesn't allow them to.
Still for me personally, pretending bad stuff didn't happen makes professionals really look bad. Keep being positive about the organisation you work for even if they did something wrong never feels right. Honesty goes a long way, so even when you talk about bad stuff, in the end people might respect your organisation even more because you don't cover stuff up.

Like when GOM quickly removed the part of Jinro saying he could hear casters in the booth, that's bad. How IPL quickly reacted, that's good.



Keep in mind that the problem was PPSL was basically Gus himself. The other people involved, the audience, the players, they didn't do anything wrong. They can't just say "Wow that event was awful" on air at GSL, that'd be incredibly rude and disrespectful to all the innocent bystanders in some way involved in the tourny. Like people have said, if Artosis gets on SotG, that's a better place to talk about it because he can explain what was actually wrong without just giving a big, blanket statement that the tournament was bad.


Yes I guess.
For the record I don't mean for them saying the tournament was bad. And if they didn't say anything about it I could understand it too.

But what I didn't like was them saying it was great and keep hyping it while not saying, unfortunately some things went wrong too but we hope these will be solved. After they would have done that I wouldn't mind how much they kept hyping it up. It's the "we only bring the positive side of the story" what I didn't like.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Zhuu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States356 Posts
November 09 2011 16:40 GMT
#554
Why isn't Gus in jail yet...?
♥ Lee Soon-kyu ♥ @xZhuu
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 16:47:30
November 09 2011 16:47 GMT
#555
On November 10 2011 01:39 Zandar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 01:32 dormer wrote:
On November 10 2011 01:13 Zandar wrote:
On November 10 2011 00:49 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On November 10 2011 00:41 Zandar wrote:
On November 10 2011 00:04 crms wrote:
I'd also like a response from tastosis seeing as they hyped this event quite a bit, I hope they know of all the troubles and stop hyping. ~_~


I agree with this. It felt a bit weird today during their GSL cast they only mentioned how great the tournament was. Made me like them a bit less. (just from 100% likable to 99%)
When being in the frontline and all eyes pointed at you already because you have been drinking with that gus guy, you could at least say something like: we can't go in details but unfortunately some things went really wrong too and we feel sorry for people who were treated badly and hope everything will be solved.

I think it's really important to them as professionals that they represent the organizations they work with in the most positive light possible. It's not really their place to use the platform GOM gives them to trash talk someone else they've done work for, even if (as in this case) the criticism is entirely valid. We have to remember that Tasteless and Artosis aren't just dudes we all love that log on and cast games, they're employees of large organizations and depend on their excellent reputations as professionals that do their best for whoever hires them for their livelihood.


Thanks for poining that out, I guess that's the case. They probably even have a contract that doesn't allow them to.
Still for me personally, pretending bad stuff didn't happen makes professionals really look bad. Keep being positive about the organisation you work for even if they did something wrong never feels right. Honesty goes a long way, so even when you talk about bad stuff, in the end people might respect your organisation even more because you don't cover stuff up.

Like when GOM quickly removed the part of Jinro saying he could hear casters in the booth, that's bad. How IPL quickly reacted, that's good.



Keep in mind that the problem was PPSL was basically Gus himself. The other people involved, the audience, the players, they didn't do anything wrong. They can't just say "Wow that event was awful" on air at GSL, that'd be incredibly rude and disrespectful to all the innocent bystanders in some way involved in the tourny. Like people have said, if Artosis gets on SotG, that's a better place to talk about it because he can explain what was actually wrong without just giving a big, blanket statement that the tournament was bad.


Yes I guess.
For the record I don't mean for them saying the tournament was bad. And if they didn't say anything about it I could understand it too.

But what I didn't like was them saying it was great and keep hyping it while not saying, unfortunately some things went wrong too but we hope these will be solved. After they would have done that I wouldn't mind how much they kept hyping it up. It's the "we only bring the positive side of the story" what I didn't like.


They acted like professionals. It's not their place to talk about problems with the tournament, especially at a job that has no association with it.
EricCartman
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada306 Posts
November 09 2011 16:47 GMT
#556
What a fakeass bitch. This guy enrages me. His FB posts were all about gloating with tastosis... if only he had spent the time 'getting wasted with tastosis' on actually managing the god damn event. what a fucking sad case of a human being. rot in hell you piece of shit.
TeamBanished
Profile Joined September 2011
United States301 Posts
November 09 2011 16:47 GMT
#557
The real question, where does Gus live?
For Aiur
EricCartman
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada306 Posts
November 09 2011 16:48 GMT
#558
On November 10 2011 01:47 morevox wrote:
The real question, where does Gus live?


hidden in the jungles of the phillipines. see his fb page.. this guy is a douche
TeamBanished
Profile Joined September 2011
United States301 Posts
November 09 2011 16:49 GMT
#559
^Well he is obviously not Rambo.


or Arnold.
For Aiur
MrToast
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia10 Posts
November 09 2011 16:53 GMT
#560
I was hoping so hard that this event would bring light to how great the SEA community is and how we can also host world class events on par with Europe or America instead this happens and now the SEA E-sports scene as deth said 'has been put back years'.

I am just so disappointed and I hope SEA will get another chance to host a great event properly this time.
"Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can?" - Sun Tzu
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