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rijndael
Profile Joined July 2011
Philippines15 Posts
November 09 2011 10:05 GMT
#461
The problem with the lawsuit angle is that even if it gets off the ground, the philippine justice system is such a giant clusterfuck that it will take millenia before the suit is even resolved.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
November 09 2011 10:07 GMT
#462
On November 09 2011 19:05 rijndael wrote:
The problem with the lawsuit angle is that even if it gets off the ground, the philippine justice system is such a giant clusterfuck that it will take millenia before the suit is even resolved.

This. I'm more confident in the sympathy of others over our justice system as it stands.
S-Class
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (North)665 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 10:10:57
November 09 2011 10:10 GMT
#463
I have read through every single post up to page 15, and skimmed the rest up to now, I believe this is matter is an act of CRIME and a attack to esports and everything we love about it.

I'm surprised no one has stated anything specific, so I'll do it:

1. At the level of TL, give him a conditional perm ban until he comes up with a valid explanation for everything that is being complained against him.
2. Have him update TL or in some other ESports forum on the status of all the "complaints" against him (payment for the hotel, team Cube, YJ, etc.)
3. File lawsuits. This is not a simple matter of mismanagement. This is about a man who, reading the posts here and elsewhere, bragged about being the "BOSS" yet performed way below incompetence level, and even had malicious intentions in the performance of his duty.

This is a criminal act. And Gus Ledesma is a criminal.

EDIT: Gunrun is a hero!
Sanjuro
Profile Joined November 2010
Indonesia252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 10:38:15
November 09 2011 10:15 GMT
#464
Stream problems, Internet problems is common, Twitch even sent out a representative to help if any stream problems occur, but if you messed up the computer specification to play SC2? What the hell man.
im the Villain of the Story, im not meant to be saved
YourmumisEZ
Profile Joined July 2011
Romania22 Posts
November 09 2011 10:19 GMT
#465
wtf is this? apologies don't mean nothing if u don't do smth to refund the players, get out of esports
first god created dota then he randomed lucifer:|
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
November 09 2011 10:27 GMT
#466
On November 09 2011 18:29 Rannasha wrote:
Didn't IPL (David Ting) post that they kept half the sponsorship money on hold until all issues were settled or to reallocate the money to reimburse people that were screwed over? I see this as the way out for Amanda, with IPL stepping up to reimburse her with the money originally meant for the PPSL/Gus.

The problem is we don't know how much is the 50% of sponsorship money from IGN.
It could be even possible that PPSL have went massively in red. I think that this might be the first event that pays players first and later the staff and the rest of the bills...
DanCaek
Profile Joined July 2011
Lebanon71 Posts
November 09 2011 10:44 GMT
#467
Lol I wonder if you even have a half brain. You even dare write an apology? If you call this an apology.

You're such a waste of O2 and food
Anything unrelated to elephants
FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
November 09 2011 10:45 GMT
#468
That was a pretty lame apology if you ask me.
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SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 10:55:17
November 09 2011 10:50 GMT
#469
Fuck you. Your statement is damn empty, you didn't explain anything.

we would like to make it clear that it was no one else's fault but ours


Don't worry, we already knew that.

However, there were a few complications associated with funding (not IPL's fault), and subsequently, I was unable to send him to the event.


So, basically, still the same bullshit, you didn't respect the contract, that's it, why do you fail to mention that you replaced him by your own player ? Why no more details about where the money went ?

To the members of Team Cube, we apologize for not being able to fly your players over to the event; I feel bad about you guys not being here; in the future we will try our utmost best to invite you to events as compensation for your team not being represented at the event.


lol ! So you think that's how it works when you swindle people, you just say "hu, sorry, didn't mean that, I promise, never again" ? Nope, you can't.

To the Players for the HONslaught event; I would like to apologize for not being able to accommodate you guys during the IPL 4 Pacific Qualifier event; our sponsors (S2 Games) have decided to postpone the tournament to a later date.


You mean you basically settled the event with no sponsors... Because if the sponsor had once agreed, no reason to postpone, you're just a lying piece of shit, even now with this thread supposed to explain things, you still act like you did nothing wrong, and you congratulate yourself like that : "and last but not the least Staff and Crew from the PPSL and Team AZK" ... no "thank you" for you, sir, just a "fuck you", never organize an esport event again, never ever
lyrlian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands257 Posts
November 09 2011 10:56 GMT
#470
I hope you never try to get involved in anything related to e-sports in the future. I hope all the people you owe money are able to get home sometime this week.
@lyrlian on twitter! Caster for ESET, WCS and various other events.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
November 09 2011 11:02 GMT
#471
I'm going to assume the Twitter post thanking gus for his hard work was posted by himself...?

What a scumbag.
Snitches get stiches
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
November 09 2011 11:05 GMT
#472
I hadn't paid any attention to this event prior to this... Thank god.

You sound like a complete and utter fuck up and this apology is a fucking joke... If people go to gaol over this, you need your head caved in.
[AUS]Spirit
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia37 Posts
November 09 2011 11:09 GMT
#473
On November 09 2011 19:05 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
This is by far the most epic clusterfuck I've ever witnessed. Words just fail me. GunRun; you deserve hugs from every e-sports fan in the world for stepping in to assuage some of the worst of the blowback for one of the victims. And I'm sure that a solution will be found to keep Amanda out of jail - €9k is a lot of money, but it would be cheap advertising for IPL to front it, and in the worst case, I'd be surprised if the community couldn't collect that in an emergency.



Yeah, as a community member id put a few dollars to help out if worst came to worst.

As long as we didnt trust a guy like Gus with that money haha
If you want something you've never had, you need to be prepared to do something you've never done
threehundred
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada911 Posts
November 09 2011 11:13 GMT
#474
dude i already told you there is something wrong with gus' brain. on a extremely personal level i believe people without common sense do exist because of guys like gus ledesma.

everytime i've personally fought or dealt with him over the last few months he used almost zero percent of his brain to make sense of what was going on.

eg. gus: 'why am i going to pay you 50% upfront? do you pay for food at a restaurant before you eat it?'
john: (well yes if it's not a dine and sit one lol) but my reply was 'do you get on a plane to your destination and pay for the service after?'

gus ledesma is arrogant and flat out dumb and stupid when he posts or even texts for that matter. it's a personal hate post i know, but yeah it's tough to believe that magically orchestrated all of this.

but yeah in introspect: name-drop, tell ign that azk will be shouldering the player flights, promote azk more, grab more then 10 sponsors, create a hon tournament that doesn't exist to draw in more then a 200 person crowd. THE ONLY THING HE DID FORGET TO DO WAS ACTUALLY SOURCE AN EVENT PLANNER, PROGRAM DIRECTOR ON LOAN. the ppsl was quite good, toward several games of day 2 (aside from in/out issues like stream quality/booth non-existent soundproofing, caster queuing etc...)

brain damage may be a possible cause, or even substance abuse, but i think it's more an emotional condition that i know many people have (the one where you can never admit you're wrong)
KimTaeyeon MEDIC MU fighting! ^^;;
onlinerobbe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany547 Posts
November 09 2011 11:14 GMT
#475
yeah let's get that money to gus so he can "lead the way" in that rescue mission

trololol
ohayo- on afk-op teamliquid | tuturuuuu! mayushi desu - 유인나, 이지은 사랑 (멍 지효 <3 )
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 11:16:45
November 09 2011 11:14 GMT
#476
Gunrun just posted this on reddit

–]thegunrun 2 points 9 minutes ago
The flights still need to be paid for. Amanda's still 515,878 php in the hole. (~$12,000)

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/m5szu/gus_has_arrived_to_sort_out_hotel_bill_ppsl/c2ydan6
Thank God and gunrun.
JaBrOnI
Profile Joined February 2011
Philippines59 Posts
November 09 2011 11:15 GMT
#477
This is really BS.

Making vague apology and didn't even explain anything?

I can understand problems with streaming and technical difficulties but money issues?!?!?!?!?

Shame on you for doing all of this Gus and for tarnishing the reputation of your other Filipino SC2 players.

I don't know what I would do if we bump into each other here. Well I hope this goes to our local media as well so he won't have any escape. Just with I had a contact with the media here. Hmmm...I'll see what I can do.
En Taro Tassadar
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
November 09 2011 11:18 GMT
#478
Gus Ledesma I hope you get sued. This thread clarifies nothing!
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
November 09 2011 11:21 GMT
#479
On November 09 2011 20:14 Primadog wrote:
Gunrun just posted this on reddit

Show nested quote +
–]thegunrun 2 points 9 minutes ago
The flights still need to be paid for. Amanda's still 515,878 php in the hole. (~$12,000)

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/m5szu/gus_has_arrived_to_sort_out_hotel_bill_ppsl/c2ydan6


I concur with your response to that on Reddit.
Ridiculous.
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Teiwaz
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria158 Posts
November 09 2011 11:21 GMT
#480

This OP clarified nothing.

Get the money out to the people it belongs to and then GTFO of eSports.
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