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mewo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States221 Posts
November 09 2011 09:01 GMT
#421
On November 09 2011 17:57 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:46 OopsOopsBaby wrote:


WHAT THE FUCK?


Not sure if trolling..

Instead of donating to pay to get Amanda out of trouble, how about we donate to arrange a debt collector to find him and make him pay instead, I think it would be cheaper and would be more just for all the parties involved.

"make him pay"
TL mafia for life.

17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
November 09 2011 09:02 GMT
#422
1. The problem with the issue with Amanda is its doubtful she has a legally binding contract that states that Gus is the one that is assigned to pay the obligations and that she is merely a representative.

2. They most likely are not legally registered as a corporation or group with the government, which means the heirarchy of manager, travel agent, staff etc can be something that is denied and claimed as heresay if it were to reach court.

3. If ever she has a document that states such, I doubt it is a notarized contract but simply an agreement that is most likely a photocopy only and not a certified true copy. (She trusted in Gus too much)

4. I really have trouble understanding and comprehending how in the world Amanda willingly signed for 700k php worth of travel tickets as a guarantor without expressly writing that Gus is also party to it. I mean, the statement of Gus that he didn't have credit card to present for the rooms was already weird to begin with. (Credit card companies actually sometimes dole out cards eventhough you don't apply for them here in the Philippines so I doubt Gus doesn't have even 1 - which also weirds me out that Clide didn't find that suspucious).

We have a saying here in the Philippines: "Walang maloloko kung walang magpapaloko" (No one will be tricked if no one lets themselves be tricked)

I feel sorry for Amanda, Clive and the rest of the guys who stepped up to make it work but now it seems like Gus didn't really present himself or any company under his name (as a proprietor) to front (Such as an event organizing company/body) for the whole thing and he used various individuals and had non-recorded verbal arrangements with some of them.
Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
November 09 2011 09:03 GMT
#423
I'd pitch in to hire some pinoy thugs to fuck Gus up.

Just kidding, of course.
Peter, Dang, pm me!!!
RxDamitol
Profile Joined February 2011
United States83 Posts
November 09 2011 09:04 GMT
#424
how about we donate to arrange a debt collector to find him and make him pay




Dog the Bounty Hunter!?
Greedy beats Safe, Safe beats Cheesy, and Cheesy beats Greedy.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 09 2011 09:06 GMT
#425
On November 09 2011 17:53 rijndael wrote:
I'd like to help, maybe loan some of the money until IGN can reimburse the funds but 1. 500k php is not chump change (my credit card maxes out way below that) and 2. The amount isn't something you can loan out without a 100% guarantee of reimbursement.


What was the point in this post? "I'd like to help you but i wont cos i cant trust u and dont actually have money, LOL!" ...I dont get it.


This guy is a fucking joke anyway, cant believe the shit he's pulling. Hope it all gets sorted and best of luck to whoever is still in the shit, at the very least i hope you get to squeeze his balls.
Useless wet fish.
rbkl
Profile Joined March 2010
772 Posts
November 09 2011 09:08 GMT
#426
On November 09 2011 18:06 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:53 rijndael wrote:
I'd like to help, maybe loan some of the money until IGN can reimburse the funds but 1. 500k php is not chump change (my credit card maxes out way below that) and 2. The amount isn't something you can loan out without a 100% guarantee of reimbursement.


What was the point in this post? "I'd like to help you but i wont cos i cant trust u and dont actually have money, LOL!" ...I dont get it.


This guy is a fucking joke anyway, cant believe the shit he's pulling. Hope it all gets sorted and best of luck to whoever is still in the shit, at the very least i hope you get to squeeze his balls.


In a bad way of course
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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
November 09 2011 09:08 GMT
#427
On November 09 2011 17:19 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:17 pdd wrote:
On November 09 2011 17:16 Zanno wrote:
On November 09 2011 17:12 YoonYJ wrote:
Ok people. A quick update on Amanda, who I am speaking to right now. She is in a lot of financial trouble right now. Does anyone know how I can get in contact with David Ting ?

it's 3 am on the east coast of the US right now - i wouldn't expect it to be possible to get in touch with him for another 6-12 hours

I think David and IGN are based in California.

then it's midnight there right now

i couldn't tell you what his hours are, i don't work for ign

i'm just letting you know that most people in the US are sleeping right now, so it might be tough to find him
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:19 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
This is one of the funniest threads I've read in a long time, can't stop laughing!

it's actually not funny at all - he just scammed our community for $13k+
I meant the guy's pathetic apology and such is what's cracking me up. The situation itself is unfortunately bleak.
I <3 Plexa.
v98235
Profile Joined November 2011
Philippines8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 09:27:49
November 09 2011 09:08 GMT
#428
Its amazing how you guys want to help Amanda. Amazing hearts in your chests right there. From a Filipino SC2 fan, thank you. EDIT: I do agree with the guy who posted here though, that its not necessary, donations and whatnot. She still has time and Gus is still with TheGunRun AFAIK.

There are so many of us over here that have that same kind of heart and spirit of community. That's why what happened really hurt us; we want to be part of the best esports community. We can be. There are many of us directly trying to help as well. I know people scrambling to get answers and things done. I hope this clears up soon so we can get back to trying to build bridges and enjoying great games both local and international.
How you do anything is how you do everything.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
November 09 2011 09:09 GMT
#429
On November 09 2011 18:03 Sky101 wrote:
I'd pitch in to hire some pinoy thugs to fuck Gus up.

Just kidding, of course.


cant be that expensive right?
ive got some loose cash floating around on paypal.
obviously im also kidding.

+ Show Spoiler +
OR AM I
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obviously
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
November 09 2011 09:10 GMT
#430
Why on earth would anybody be talking about raising donations at this stage? That will just make Gus think he doesnt have to come up with the money.
n.Die_Jaedong
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
November 09 2011 09:11 GMT
#431
oh and if Gus is really trying to scam someone and wants to get away with it think he came to the wrong place.
ive seen the forum sherlocks solve way harder cases.
you dont fuck with nerds.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
November 09 2011 09:12 GMT
#432
On November 09 2011 18:10 Dundron2000 wrote:
Why on earth would anybody be talking about raising donations at this stage? That will just make Gus think he doesnt have to come up with the money.


Gus Prolly heading to the hotel to drink it all off instead of repaying the hotel LOL
Dear Sixsmith...
rijndael
Profile Joined July 2011
Philippines15 Posts
November 09 2011 09:12 GMT
#433
On November 09 2011 18:06 Capped wrote:

What was the point in this post? "I'd like to help you but i wont cos i cant trust u and dont actually have money, LOL!" ...I dont get it.


This guy is a fucking joke anyway, cant believe the shit he's pulling. Hope it all gets sorted and best of luck to whoever is still in the shit, at the very least i hope you get to squeeze his balls.


I posted this because if jailtime really came into play, then yes, i am willing to loan out some of the cash to help, but as i said, 500k is hard to shoulder alone (that's almost a year's salary here). I was just doing this as a gesture, but since Amanda has until the 21st, then i guess there really was no point, was there?

I'm just curious if the travel agency she contacted was locally based here in the Philippines.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 09 2011 09:12 GMT
#434
On November 09 2011 17:57 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:46 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
https://twitter.com/#!/PPSLTV/status/134181262561771521

WHAT THE FUCK?


Not sure if trolling..

Instead of donating to pay to get Amanda out of trouble, how about we donate to arrange a debt collector to find him and make him pay instead, I think it would be cheaper and would be more just for all the parties involved.


lol that would be brilliant!!!
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
LiveForever
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines4 Posts
November 09 2011 09:13 GMT
#435
I hope people would understand that the Philippine Starcraft Community is pretty fragmented. Most of us play because we played Broodwar. There's no national league and the internet cafes that have Starcraft are few and far in between. This event could've been really good for the community(and if i didn't have to go to work, i would have been there too), but because someone decided to be incredibly greedy and/or incompetent (from what I gather), it all just got messed up.

I know that the international community does not think much of the Philippines in terms of e-sport potential if at all, and rarely does it show up in TL aside from the occasional Manny Pacquiao or national disaster thread, but we are here and appreciate this game just as much as the next guy.

I am just really disappointed about how PPSL was managed. It could have been really good. But no. Now every time a Philippine event would be held, we would be reminded of this fiasco, and comparison will be made.

IPL are such a great events and I always tune in whenever I can. From what I understand, David Ting made a lot of things happen and I suppose took a calculated risk when IPL took on this PPSL held in Manila. I do not know David Ting personally and perhaps, never will; but I respect him a lot for what he has done for the game that I so enjoy.

From where I am right now, I can only hope that the people who were immediately directly affected.

I have stopped playing for a while, relegated myself to the reddit habit of just watching games, but after all this has happened; I feel motivated to play and organize local events again.

GLHF as always.
Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
November 09 2011 09:21 GMT
#436
I wonder what Deezer's going to do now that he isn't the most hated figure in the SC2 community anymore...
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
November 09 2011 09:24 GMT
#437
Disgusting to see them celebrating whilst an innocent party is at risk.

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skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 09:27:19
November 09 2011 09:26 GMT
#438
On November 09 2011 18:02 17Sphynx17 wrote:
1. The problem with the issue with Amanda is its doubtful she has a legally binding contract that states that Gus is the one that is assigned to pay the obligations and that she is merely a representative.

2. They most likely are not legally registered as a corporation or group with the government, which means the heirarchy of manager, travel agent, staff etc can be something that is denied and claimed as heresay if it were to reach court.

3. If ever she has a document that states such, I doubt it is a notarized contract but simply an agreement that is most likely a photocopy only and not a certified true copy. (She trusted in Gus too much)


This documentations are helpful but not needed. The people there, the twitter messages and so on is enough proof that she worked by his order. If it comes hard to hard, i think she would win on court and can show that she is the wrong person to sue.
But hope they find a way it clear it out earlier.


4. I really have trouble understanding and comprehending how in the world Amanda willingly signed for 700k php worth of travel tickets as a guarantor without expressly writing that Gus is also party to it.


dont understand this part too.

Btw what is this jail thing about? you dont get into jail because you can not pay your bills when its not even 100% clear its your bills. I think they panic a little bit.
Save gaming: kill esport
kRooKster
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia21 Posts
November 09 2011 09:27 GMT
#439
After seeking fame all this while, you, sir, have now become famous. Fame comes in two forms, good and bad. Unfortunately, you're not part of the good kind of fame, but the bad, to be lumped together with all that is evil and vile.

In the future, whenever events like this are held by relative newcomers, the first question would be, "will he/she pull a gus ledesma?" heck, at least your name will be repeated for a very long time.

so, cheers, you have finally gotten the fame you wanted. Enjoy.
Connor987
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom103 Posts
November 09 2011 09:27 GMT
#440
think you've got a nerve to even post like this, as if you're in the wrong as much as you are, if I were you i'd leave esports and never come back
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