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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 09 2011 05:33 GMT
#221
After this whole fiasco, I can only wonder how the team is going to deal with this internally. Are they going to quit the team, have Gus fired, or what? I expect they should discuss this at least at some length.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Trell
Profile Joined February 2011
United States60 Posts
November 09 2011 05:34 GMT
#222
I Lol'd
"I went to Terran Cheeseburgers the other day...... That is the reason I can't have nice things"
PlasticMilk
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada48 Posts
November 09 2011 05:34 GMT
#223
Lol.... I like how you basically dodged any details towards the HoNslaught incident.... if the event got post poned why wouldnt you update everyone prior to the event... if a sponsor honestly pulls out at the last minute and reschedules the event (assuming that you're not incompetent ... which you are but let's just say for arguments sake) then frankly, fuck that sponsor. but you clearly lack the work ethics and morale to avoid a chance to gain money and some media press.
where do dreams go
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
November 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#224
On November 09 2011 14:33 magnaflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 14:23 Takkara wrote:
I get that people say that AZK members had no idea of the crooked dealings of Gus, but after the viOlet thing, and this, and a few other incidents, I think it's time for the AZK name to be perma-banned in the community. The members who did nothing wrong should form a new team, and the current name and all remaining members should be blacklisted. This is beyond underhanded and shady from a team that just keeps churning out bad press.



I can almost assure you the entire team knew this was going to be a cluster fuck. Anybody directly involved would have known. Plenty of people are to blame for this. Gus is a fucking douche and is obviuosly where all the hate should be directed, but he did not do this on his own. A single person would not be capable of fucking this up entirely on his own. He had associates, people other then himself must have known how much money was coming in, and where it was coming from. What it was being spent on etc etc.

he managed to fucked his ASSISTANT MANAGER clive over hotel money. i highly doubt anyone other than himself knows what is going on.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
November 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#225
On November 09 2011 12:32 AZKwitchdoc wrote:
I have spoken with YoonYJ personally, apologised and have put past the problems between us. He has accepted my apology, and has agreed to help resurrect this situation. I would also like to apologize to Derek "Dox" Reball for any misunderstandings that may have happened with the Australian Leg of the Qualifiers; he is an excellent events/tournament organizer and should be given attention for his passion for e-sports.


On November 09 2011 14:16 YoonYJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 14:14 Xpace wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/user/dting888
IPL still owes Gus and Team AZK 50% of our sponsorship dollars. I will not release the funds until the ills have been cured or repurpose our funds to pay for part of the damage that has been caused. It is unbelievable what has just occurred here.


I know this is speculative but what if the only reason Gus apologized to YoonYJ and offered compensation was because YoonYJ was one of the more vocal individuals that stood up and actually provided large enough evidence (evident in the SCSEA thread)? And getting YoonYJ to pretty much say he's okay for the moment is a way to get IPL to send that remaining 50%?

?? :\


I by no means have forgiven Gus whatsoever. I am waiting for him to fix the immediate damages he has caused to the people in the Phillipines. I have put those people before my compensation.


On November 09 2011 14:22 Dox wrote:
Not that I feel I'm owed an apology or anything, but Gus hasn't said a word to me since last Wednesday.

+ Show Spoiler [Most Recent Conversation] +
[2/11/2011 10:21:19 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): cheekyduck's here
[2/11/2011 10:21:21 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): went out to dinner last night
[2/11/2011 10:28:29 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): hope you could be here
[2/11/2011 10:28:33 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): dox
[2/11/2011 10:31:41 AM] Derek Reball: way too busy unfortunately!


Just thought I'd clear that up since he used my name in the OP.


Lol... still completely full of shit, even in the "apology" post.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
November 09 2011 05:36 GMT
#226
How about you pay what you owe (which is AT LEAST $13,000) and then resign so we don't have to hear about you ever again? Sounds good?
YoonYJ
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia48 Posts
November 09 2011 05:36 GMT
#227
On November 09 2011 14:31 Code wrote:
wtf is this shit? This didnt clear up anything..

I'm actually more angry now then i was before

Let us give him time to see how he reacts. Actions speak louder.
CebusFinest
Profile Joined August 2010
Philippines210 Posts
November 09 2011 05:37 GMT
#228
[image loading]
10 years since...
YoonYJ
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia48 Posts
November 09 2011 05:37 GMT
#229
I have spoken to Gus about the matter and I am glad to say that he has apologised for his actions. He has given me my word that I will be compensated at a sum of $1600AU, which was the estimated cost of the flight by next year February 15th. The reason for this is because he will be dealing with all the other financial issues at hand which is currently happening in the Philippines as you guys probably have heard of share my disappointment.

http://i.imgur.com/bueay.png?4912

I am grateful for all of those that have supported me in the past few days; I remember every one of you that have spoken out, messaged me personally, and have even apologised for something their country has done (which I have replied this matter has nothing to do with the Philippines). To these people I would like to say I am indebted to you, as I have felt the community unite and speak out with and for me.

Gus's actions will tell me if he has accepted responsibility. In the next few days, if Gus keeps his word and attends to those that have been affected by the management, then he has my forgiveness. I have made many mistakes myself and have been grateful for loving friends and family that have constantly forgiven my mistakes. By no means does this mean I have forgiven him now; actions speak louder than words. However, if he does do what a reasonable person does to fix his mistakes, who are we not to forgive? I cannot force you to follow me into accepting Gus back into e-Sports, as you have the right to your opinion. Yet it is my solid belief that if he pays for his wrongs, then we as a community must forgive him.

Kind Regards,

YoonYJ
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
November 09 2011 05:38 GMT
#230
On November 09 2011 14:05 DoomsVille wrote:
You gotta feel for the guy just a bit.

Organizing an event of this size is difficult. No matter what anyone says. And he seems to have run into every possible problem (internet issues, pc issues on top of everything else).

Not trying to excuse his actions. Still seems completely incompetent. But it's hard to judge until you understand how much work and how difficult it is to organize an event of this sort.

No you don't. He ran into problems because he fucked up and cut corners. I feel bad for the people he screwed over.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Rain...
Profile Joined September 2010
United States201 Posts
November 09 2011 05:38 GMT
#231
LOL this guy is fcked by Esports and its fans haha
I'm just waiting for people to start asking me to make the rain disappear. David Copperfield
HunterK
Profile Joined April 2011
Argentina68 Posts
November 09 2011 05:38 GMT
#232
The TeamAZK facebook page got deleted, LoL.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
November 09 2011 05:39 GMT
#233
YoJun was considered as the replacement to attend the event alongside David "arcMSIRossi" Rossi. However, there were a few complications associated with funding (not IPL's fault)


Where's the money then Gus for the 4 Cube Players that were supposed to be flown to the Tournament and YJY

You said the funding wasn't IPL's Fault... So clearly something is a Miss here... What'd you do with the Sponsor Money.
Never GG MKP | IdrA
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
November 09 2011 05:40 GMT
#234
On November 09 2011 14:39 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
YoJun was considered as the replacement to attend the event alongside David "arcMSIRossi" Rossi. However, there were a few complications associated with funding (not IPL's fault)


Where's the money then Gus for the 4 Cube Players that were supposed to be flown to the Tournament and YJY

You said the funding wasn't IPL's Fault... So clearly something is a Miss here... What'd you do with the Sponsor Money.



I'm starting to wonder if there were even sponsors to begin with, maybe that was a bunch of bullshit too.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
November 09 2011 05:40 GMT
#235
Where's all the money?
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 09 2011 05:40 GMT
#236
you need a PR expert on your team. what you wrote should not have been released at all. you know why? cuz there were no explanations and it is troubling to note that you STILL haven't paid the 13 grand.
RxDamitol
Profile Joined February 2011
United States83 Posts
November 09 2011 05:41 GMT
#237
YoonYJ fighting!
Greedy beats Safe, Safe beats Cheesy, and Cheesy beats Greedy.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 05:44:18
November 09 2011 05:42 GMT
#238
On November 09 2011 14:40 magnaflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 14:39 XRaDiiX wrote:
YoJun was considered as the replacement to attend the event alongside David "arcMSIRossi" Rossi. However, there were a few complications associated with funding (not IPL's fault)


Where's the money then Gus for the 4 Cube Players that were supposed to be flown to the Tournament and YJY

You said the funding wasn't IPL's Fault... So clearly something is a Miss here... What'd you do with the Sponsor Money.



I'm starting to wonder if there were even sponsors to begin with, maybe that was a bunch of bullshit too.



Maybe you're right he faked the Sponsors..... or at-least some of them who knows.

I thought IPL/IGN Sponsors were providing all the Funds... maybe he had a bunch of Smaller Sponsors that he lied about and they weren't really sponsoring the Event........????? Where the money that was dedicated to the Players FLIGHTS
Never GG MKP | IdrA
KebertXela
Profile Joined August 2010
United States322 Posts
November 09 2011 05:42 GMT
#239
On November 09 2011 14:37 YoonYJ wrote:
I have spoken to Gus about the matter and I am glad to say that he has apologised for his actions. He has given me my word that I will be compensated at a sum of $1600AU, which was the estimated cost of the flight by next year February 15th. The reason for this is because he will be dealing with all the other financial issues at hand which is currently happening in the Philippines as you guys probably have heard of share my disappointment.

http://i.imgur.com/bueay.png?4912

I am grateful for all of those that have supported me in the past few days; I remember every one of you that have spoken out, messaged me personally, and have even apologised for something their country has done (which I have replied this matter has nothing to do with the Philippines). To these people I would like to say I am indebted to you, as I have felt the community unite and speak out with and for me.

Gus's actions will tell me if he has accepted responsibility. In the next few days, if Gus keeps his word and attends to those that have been affected by the management, then he has my forgiveness. I have made many mistakes myself and have been grateful for loving friends and family that have constantly forgiven my mistakes. By no means does this mean I have forgiven him now; actions speak louder than words. However, if he does do what a reasonable person does to fix his mistakes, who are we not to forgive? I cannot force you to follow me into accepting Gus back into e-Sports, as you have the right to your opinion. Yet it is my solid belief that if he pays for his wrongs, then we as a community must forgive him.

Kind Regards,

YoonYJ

You might want to get him to sign a legally binding contract to make sure he pays,
Check my last.fm out \\ http://www.last.fm/user/bigbobo1
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 09 2011 05:42 GMT
#240
On November 09 2011 14:37 YoonYJ wrote:
I have spoken to Gus about the matter and I am glad to say that he has apologised for his actions. He has given me my word that I will be compensated at a sum of $1600AU, which was the estimated cost of the flight by next year February 15th. The reason for this is because he will be dealing with all the other financial issues at hand which is currently happening in the Philippines as you guys probably have heard of share my disappointment.

http://i.imgur.com/bueay.png?4912

I am grateful for all of those that have supported me in the past few days; I remember every one of you that have spoken out, messaged me personally, and have even apologised for something their country has done (which I have replied this matter has nothing to do with the Philippines). To these people I would like to say I am indebted to you, as I have felt the community unite and speak out with and for me.

Gus's actions will tell me if he has accepted responsibility. In the next few days, if Gus keeps his word and attends to those that have been affected by the management, then he has my forgiveness. I have made many mistakes myself and have been grateful for loving friends and family that have constantly forgiven my mistakes. By no means does this mean I have forgiven him now; actions speak louder than words. However, if he does do what a reasonable person does to fix his mistakes, who are we not to forgive? I cannot force you to follow me into accepting Gus back into e-Sports, as you have the right to your opinion. Yet it is my solid belief that if he pays for his wrongs, then we as a community must forgive him.

Kind Regards,

YoonYJ


True. He will still be heavily criticized but if he pays he will be forgiven. But I kinda doubt that he will pay anytime soon.
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