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YoonYJ
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia48 Posts
November 09 2011 05:16 GMT
#201
On November 09 2011 14:14 Xpace wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/user/dting888
Show nested quote +
IPL still owes Gus and Team AZK 50% of our sponsorship dollars. I will not release the funds until the ills have been cured or repurpose our funds to pay for part of the damage that has been caused. It is unbelievable what has just occurred here.


I know this is speculative but what if the only reason Gus apologized to YoonYJ and offered compensation was because YoonYJ was one of the more vocal individuals that stood up and actually provided large enough evidence (evident in the SCSEA thread)? And getting YoonYJ to pretty much say he's okay for the moment is a way to get IPL to send that remaining 50%?

?? :\


I by no means have forgiven Gus whatsoever. I am waiting for him to fix the immediate damages he has caused to the people in the Phillipines. I have put those people before my compensation.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 05:18:06
November 09 2011 05:16 GMT
#202
Remember he purposely avoided paying for the Flights of 4 Team Cube Members from Phillipines and YJY

Always Remember this it is the Truth Don't let this Snake Deceive you.

Don't give Gus the Benefit of the Doubt.

Bribing MoonGlade to take YJY's Spot Etc in the Tournament is shameful; all in itself
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 05:17:50
November 09 2011 05:17 GMT
#203
On November 09 2011 14:05 DoomsVille wrote:
You gotta feel for the guy just a bit.

Organizing an event of this size is difficult. No matter what anyone says. And he seems to have run into every possible problem (internet issues, pc issues on top of everything else).

Not trying to excuse his actions. Still seems completely incompetent. But it's hard to judge until you understand how much work and how difficult it is to organize an event of this sort.


Yeah, organizing a tournament is pretty hard.
Especially when you don't show up til 3.P.M.
+ Show Spoiler +

On November 09 2011 13:48 Arkanthiel wrote:
You know what really makes me mad? I was in the event itself and after the first horrible day of the tournament and everyone in the community pulled GODLY amounts of effort into salvaging his trainwreck of a plan while he arrived late, did nothing and roamed around wearing an ID tag with the huge letters BOSS in it we barely somehow got the show on the road. A friend of mine told him this, saying "We pulled through somehow eh?" And you know how that douchebag responded?

"Of course it did. I organized it!"

The fucking nerve of that fucker. He had the nerve to take credit for something he had absolutely no input in! He didn't even recognize the community full of students and people with work who got disenchanted in the first day, but pooled through to go to the event JUST SO IT WONT LOOK SO EMPTY.

Then he proceeds to create this thread. Puts his own clanmates in danger of going to jail. God, I wish someone would just get it over with and deal with this guy.


The stream didn't even get tested til an hour before the event.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
November 09 2011 05:18 GMT
#204
I am frankly shocked that no one beat the shit out of this guy yet. I mean, he was at the after party, right?
Thank God and gunrun.
RxDamitol
Profile Joined February 2011
United States83 Posts
November 09 2011 05:19 GMT
#205
On November 09 2011 13:42 YoonYJ wrote:
Pls look at my post, and give me feedback whether I am being unreasonable or not. I will appreciate the feedback. You can find it at http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=2699

Kind regards,

YoonYJ



I think it was a very well written post, and adds to the growing pile of evidence against Gus. Thank you for taking the time to share your side of the story with the community. You are completely in the right. And big ups to moonglade for declining.

I kinda feel bad for Gus, I can't even imagine what it would be like to be hated on by so many people around the world.
Greedy beats Safe, Safe beats Cheesy, and Cheesy beats Greedy.
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
November 09 2011 05:21 GMT
#206
Nope. Not good enough. Try again later.

On November 09 2011 14:16 YoonYJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 14:14 Xpace wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/user/dting888
IPL still owes Gus and Team AZK 50% of our sponsorship dollars. I will not release the funds until the ills have been cured or repurpose our funds to pay for part of the damage that has been caused. It is unbelievable what has just occurred here.


I know this is speculative but what if the only reason Gus apologized to YoonYJ and offered compensation was because YoonYJ was one of the more vocal individuals that stood up and actually provided large enough evidence (evident in the SCSEA thread)? And getting YoonYJ to pretty much say he's okay for the moment is a way to get IPL to send that remaining 50%?

?? :\


I by no means have forgiven Gus whatsoever. I am waiting for him to fix the immediate damages he has caused to the people in the Phillipines. I have put those people before my compensation.


Much respect to you good sir.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
November 09 2011 05:21 GMT
#207
On November 09 2011 14:16 YoonYJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 14:14 Xpace wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/user/dting888
IPL still owes Gus and Team AZK 50% of our sponsorship dollars. I will not release the funds until the ills have been cured or repurpose our funds to pay for part of the damage that has been caused. It is unbelievable what has just occurred here.


I know this is speculative but what if the only reason Gus apologized to YoonYJ and offered compensation was because YoonYJ was one of the more vocal individuals that stood up and actually provided large enough evidence (evident in the SCSEA thread)? And getting YoonYJ to pretty much say he's okay for the moment is a way to get IPL to send that remaining 50%?

?? :\


I by no means have forgiven Gus whatsoever. I am waiting for him to fix the immediate damages he has caused to the people in the Phillipines. I have put those people before my compensation.


Words can't express how awesome you are <3
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
November 09 2011 05:22 GMT
#208
Seriously, that's it?

[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
November 09 2011 05:22 GMT
#209
Not that I feel I'm owed an apology or anything, but Gus hasn't said a word to me since last Wednesday.

+ Show Spoiler [Most Recent Conversation] +
[2/11/2011 10:21:19 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): cheekyduck's here
[2/11/2011 10:21:21 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): went out to dinner last night
[2/11/2011 10:28:29 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): hope you could be here
[2/11/2011 10:28:33 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): dox
[2/11/2011 10:31:41 AM] Derek Reball: way too busy unfortunately!


Just thought I'd clear that up since he used my name in the OP.
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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
November 09 2011 05:23 GMT
#210
I get that people say that AZK members had no idea of the crooked dealings of Gus, but after the viOlet thing, and this, and a few other incidents, I think it's time for the AZK name to be perma-banned in the community. The members who did nothing wrong should form a new team, and the current name and all remaining members should be blacklisted. This is beyond underhanded and shady from a team that just keeps churning out bad press.
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magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
November 09 2011 05:25 GMT
#211
Wether or not he is truly sorry and plans on doing anything to rectify this fucking mess he has caused all lies with that hotel bill.

I am eagerly waiting for some news from TGR on that situation
ERG`ROB
Profile Joined March 2011
United States27 Posts
November 09 2011 05:27 GMT
#212
On November 09 2011 14:22 Dox wrote:
Not that I feel I'm owed an apology or anything, but Gus hasn't said a word to me since last Wednesday.

+ Show Spoiler [Most Recent Conversation] +
[2/11/2011 10:21:19 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): cheekyduck's here
[2/11/2011 10:21:21 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): went out to dinner last night
[2/11/2011 10:28:29 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): hope you could be here
[2/11/2011 10:28:33 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): dox
[2/11/2011 10:31:41 AM] Derek Reball: way too busy unfortunately!


Just thought I'd clear that up since he used my name in the OP.

I feel really bad for you and AZK for the damage that was done for this event. Plz know that the community knows it was gus's fault, and not AZK i feel that you guys worked your ass off, and im very sad that gus handled everything so terribly. i wish you and those effected the best.
Winning is satisfying, ill do anything to get better, and to win all.
Pobbes
Profile Joined August 2010
Philippines54 Posts
November 09 2011 05:27 GMT
#213
last we heard from TGR is that he helped clive pay for the hotel bill coz he has a meeting and didn't want to leave clive alone with the bill. still no word on where gus is :/
you got map jacked
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
November 09 2011 05:28 GMT
#214
so basically what u did before posting this was

- wake up
-check TL
-see shitstorm
-spot general consensus
-apologise in the vaguest way possible, as if cold reading.

well played.
potsndots152
Profile Joined January 2011
United States17 Posts
November 09 2011 05:29 GMT
#215
"I hope that clears up some of the confusion"
LOL
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
November 09 2011 05:29 GMT
#216
On November 09 2011 14:22 Dox wrote:
Not that I feel I'm owed an apology or anything, but Gus hasn't said a word to me since last Wednesday.

+ Show Spoiler [Most Recent Conversation] +
[2/11/2011 10:21:19 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): cheekyduck's here
[2/11/2011 10:21:21 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): went out to dinner last night
[2/11/2011 10:28:29 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): hope you could be here
[2/11/2011 10:28:33 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): dox
[2/11/2011 10:31:41 AM] Derek Reball: way too busy unfortunately!


Just thought I'd clear that up since he used my name in the OP.

As expected, this scumbag lies again. Add this in to the evidence against him!
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
probablywrong
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Philippines209 Posts
November 09 2011 05:30 GMT
#217
On November 09 2011 14:29 lisward wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 14:22 Dox wrote:
Not that I feel I'm owed an apology or anything, but Gus hasn't said a word to me since last Wednesday.

+ Show Spoiler [Most Recent Conversation] +
[2/11/2011 10:21:19 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): cheekyduck's here
[2/11/2011 10:21:21 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): went out to dinner last night
[2/11/2011 10:28:29 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): hope you could be here
[2/11/2011 10:28:33 AM] gusledesma (AZKwitchdoc): dox
[2/11/2011 10:31:41 AM] Derek Reball: way too busy unfortunately!


Just thought I'd clear that up since he used my name in the OP.

As expected, this scumbag lies again. Add this in to the evidence against him!



at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he got cheeckyduck to foot the bill. cheap bastard.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
November 09 2011 05:31 GMT
#218
Gus Abelgus will find you Gus Ledesma
AKMU / IU
Code
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 05:31:37
November 09 2011 05:31 GMT
#219
wtf is this shit? This didnt clear up anything..

I'm actually more angry now then i was before
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
November 09 2011 05:33 GMT
#220
On November 09 2011 14:23 Takkara wrote:
I get that people say that AZK members had no idea of the crooked dealings of Gus, but after the viOlet thing, and this, and a few other incidents, I think it's time for the AZK name to be perma-banned in the community. The members who did nothing wrong should form a new team, and the current name and all remaining members should be blacklisted. This is beyond underhanded and shady from a team that just keeps churning out bad press.



I can almost assure you the entire team knew this was going to be a cluster fuck. Anybody directly involved would have known. Plenty of people are to blame for this. Gus is a fucking douche and is obviuosly where all the hate should be directed, but he did not do this on his own. A single person would not be capable of fucking this up entirely on his own. He had associates, people other then himself must have known how much money was coming in, and where it was coming from. What it was being spent on etc etc.
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