What Gus of the PPSL has done - Page 11

On November 08 2011 18:51 pbjsandwich wrote:

lol it's ok

I just don't like it when people base their opinions on false facts or come to conclusions that don't make any sense. This wasn't my intention.

On November 08 2011 18:54 XRaDiiX wrote:


Well he tried to Bribe Moon Glade to take YJY's Spot when YJY had rightfully earned the Spot to come to the PPSL Tournament; so i'm not sure how u can give Gus the Benefit of the Doubt.

It's already been proven and Confirmed the guys a Con-Artist.

You might wanna see my post on Page 8
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=283641&currentpage=8#160

On November 08 2011 13:50 vertical101 wrote:
i thought Gus ledezma is helping the growth of esports here in PH. but more like ruinning esport.

On November 08 2011 18:49 17Sphynx17 wrote:
I do think this type of event should have been done either in Singapore, Australia or Malaysia. But certainly not in the Philippines because of just infrastructure problems to show it to the international community. Maybe in the future (quite doubtful) but not right now.

On November 08 2011 19:01 pbjsandwich wrote:

you basically said nothing

and referred to the supposed bracket fixing that never happened.

On November 08 2011 18:49 17Sphynx17 wrote:
I do think this type of event should have been done either in Singapore, Australia or Malaysia. But certainly not in the Philippines because of just infrastructure problems to show it to the international community. Maybe in the future (quite doubtful) but not right now.

On November 08 2011 13:12 GettinMyFill wrote:
How many times are things like this going to happen before we have a legitimate pro-gamer union of some sort? There are too many scumbags from too many corners of the world who will do this kind of shit over and over and over. The prize-money involved, a majority of the time, is these players livelihood as pro-gamers. I understand that it's IPL's money that this guy has run off with, but there needs to be a governing body for StarCraft players to ensure this doesn't happen.

Surely with a community as large as ours we have some lawyers or legal-minded people who can shed some light on the implications of stupid shit such as this.

On November 08 2011 19:13 pbjsandwich wrote:
we do know that they didn't from this post



http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?s=f5cfa2b439d71084244bd59f7cdfcb85&t=2699&page=5

TARossi's post. He is not affiliated with AZK. and l don't quite get ur post

so during matches he would watch the other guy his clanmate was playing and tell him what he was doing?

How would he do that?

The Philippines is quite capable of running an event of this sorts. Check out the Pinoy Gaming Festival by Mineski last week, it went smoothly.

On November 08 2011 19:23 pbjsandwich wrote:
you literally didn't read the post

That's so bizarre... I wonder why they didn't just leave them alone the first time! They were perfectly fair! I'll update my post to clarify then - thank you for the insight!

On November 08 2011 19:06 dreadmourn wrote:



Sorry I'm just bothered by your last post, Philippines has the capability to host this kind of events. The infrastructure problems that you are referring to is the result of poor preparation and planning of one clan/team, and right now unsung heroes are out there in that tournament are trying to make it happen. Please do not include the entire country because of one clan/team's fault.

On November 08 2011 19:23 dreadmourn wrote:


exactly, even tons of Dota events, Ragnarok tournaments, Counter Strike tournaments. It's all because of poor management and planning of some selfish dudes.

On November 08 2011 19:26 XRaDiiX wrote:


I did read it it doesn't state the Reason they Re-Arranged the Brackets for.
http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?p=44725#post44725


You should probably read DOX's Reply right after TARossi's post.



Like i Said why didn't they just leave the Brackets in the Original State; I believe it was because AZK match Fixed. Or just took the Luck of the Draw. But still

Why were the Brackets Re-Arranged.

On November 08 2011 19:26 17Sphynx17 wrote:


I don't mean to be rude about about this post.

I am from the Phils. I have an ISP connection of 1.5mpbs, but you know what my upload speed is maxed? 200kbps. To run the event as a televised/recorded/VOD event is feasible. That is granted, but how to we compensate for the streams really? especially those that want to view quality streams at 720p or 1080p? I quite frankly believe this is very difficult for PH internet.

Case in point, we have DVR CCTV cameras here. If we had the proper internet infrastructure, it should be fairly easy to view the contents of the DVR or the real time videos without log at 24fps or 30fps. But sadly that is not the case, even with a dedicated business line. If this can't be done, how are we supposed to support the streaming capabilities or needs?

Please note that most of these DVR CCTV Cams record at just 480p or "VCD" quality and it is still proving difficult.

I am not questioning the capabilities of Filipinos to run the event, but when it comes to making it international through the web, it's a whole different matter.

And the best example is PLDT. It is the largest TELCO here is the philippines and it also operates the largest mobile network service provide SMART. It provides for wired and wireless internet service but is it consistent? consistent enough to host a high profile event of the caliber that is expected of us?

How was the stream for the WCG by Mineski? Stream quality? I wasn't able to watch it.

On November 08 2011 19:33 Shel wrote:
"wrong, brackets were auto generated by someone at the scene who didnt know what was going on.
Brackets were then pulled out of a hat randomly for fairness." Tarossi's post on this thread: http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?s=f5cfa2b439d71084244bd59f7cdfcb85&t=2699&page=5

First off, how is auto-generating a bracket not fair? The programs used to generate brackets are IDENTICAL to pulling names out of a hat. The only reason to redo it is because someone didn't like the results of the first one.

Second, what does pulled names out of a hat mean? Who pulled the names? Who was there to see the names get pulled? If you wanted to make the bracket "fair", why not just computer generate it again? Maybe it's because you can't control the results of a computer generated bracket?

Third, the 4 AZK members ended up perfectly spread out in the 4 different brackets. Can someone tell me the odds of that happening? Zero overlap? Does that seem extremely unlikely in a random drawing to anyone else?