EPTPrize money in Starcraft 2 - Page 8
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brainox
Germany292 Posts
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Piou
Belgium415 Posts
The role of a team is also to take care of the players, they should harass the admins to get your money as well... | ||
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FreudianTrip
Switzerland1983 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:37 FabledIntegral wrote: Well you already had to pay the 30% regardless, no? Yes, and? Having been on the inside while a few of the GameReplays HoN tourneys were going on, it isn't just the people running it being incompetent or greedy. Sponsors take a long ass time to pay up sometimes. | ||
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Finrod1
Germany3997 Posts
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GTR
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
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elementt
Portugal36 Posts
About the tournaments, its becoming a trend, tournament organizers make their prize money based on "if we get x nr of players" and that kind of crap. Real tournament already have the money ready and don't need to get X nr of participants and if they do, they should pay that players in the event, not years after the event, while they enjoy good vacations/holidays with ur money. | ||
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Bonkarooni
United States383 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:40 DoomsVille wrote: Anyone that doesn't realize this is a bubble is idiotic. You have a bajillion tournaments springing up everywhere, small cups/dailies/weeklies. The small cups realized hosting events is cheap. It costs almost nothing to host a GO4SC2. The investment is time/money. The payoff a few months ago was great. You would have thousands watching for less than $500 an investment. And so everyone started copying their model. And this was fine. Everything was working great. But then one day the big companies realized content is cheap to produce. IPL, NASL, EGMC, and even MLG recently found out online tournaments are cheap. They do talk shows, interviews, news programs etc. etc. etc. They cost peanuts compared to large events and they pay off in spades. They broadcast on a very regular basis now and they dwarf over all the small cups/tournaments. You can have big names playing in a playhem/z33k tournament but no one will watch because they'll see some random IPL/NASL/EGMC/MLG broadcast on or some rebroadcast or some talk show. The bubble is starting to collapse. The small events are realizing the viewers aren't there anymore. The Craftcup has already shut down. Most streamers can't get anywhere near the numbers they used to get. And hosting large events is almost as futile because every single weekend there is a major event. TL;DR - There are too many events now. Some of them are going to collapse. It is just a matter of time. Craftcup was always going to collapse, cause they didn't have a decent model/dedicated streamers to show their content Playhem runs daily tournaments, and their viewership is growing slowly but surely. Yeah, there are only so many people who are going to be able to watch a tournament every day, but...there's still enough to make everyone happy. Yeah, a few lesser known tournaments may die, but just because a company goes under doesn't mean "The bubble has collapsed" | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:37 AllHailTheDead wrote: im sorry but I completely disagree with the first part(i like your 2nd idea tho) If someone has to wait a year to get 2000 then it is completely not worth it and the tournament deserves to be shut down and If you disagree then you must not pay any bills or have a job because anyone old enough would know that 2000 over a year is nothing when you can make twice that in a month If you were a progamer and you were sitting at home on a wednesday night with nothing to do. You have a few options. 1) Ladder 2) Get some of your teammates and practice 3) Play in a small online tournament where you can win some money Which do you choose? Even if 3) takes a year to pay, it is most often better than the other 2 options. If you have nothing to do this weekend, wouldn't you rather go to IEM? Even if you know they will take a year to pay? You also have to realize, the players/teams need these big events to operate. If sponsors aren't getting recognition, why the hell would they pay teams? | ||
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:36 BoomNasty wrote: Can we all agree that MLG is the best tournament there is? To be fair MLG has one of the smallest prize pools but still it's really good that you don't have to wait to get the money. | ||
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Bonkarooni
United States383 Posts
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KingVietKong
United States170 Posts
I always thought ESL had their shit more together though. To see several pros without their dues from them is kind of.... sad and unsettling. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:40 ToguRo wrote: this is awful .... but it does make me appreciate GSL,MLG,IEM, etc. that are professionally run and not screwing people over Iem is run by the ESL guys so I would take that out of the organizations you listed. | ||
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zeru
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BoomNasty
United States265 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:44 0ne wrote: To be fair MLG has one of the smallest prize pools but still it's really that you don't have to wait to get the money. you missed my post about halo and mw2 having larger prize pools and still paying out int he same time. not to mention they are increasing prize pool next year. | ||
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lazyfeet
United States468 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:40 ToguRo wrote: this is awful .... but it does make me appreciate GSL,MLG,IEM, etc. that are professionally run and not screwing people over I thought IEM and ESL are from same company with different tournament names. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:43 Bonkarooni wrote: Craftcup was always going to collapse, cause they didn't have a decent model/dedicated streamers to show their content Playhem runs daily tournaments, and their viewership is growing slowly but surely. Yeah, there are only so many people who are going to be able to watch a tournament every day, but...there's still enough to make everyone happy. Yeah, a few lesser known tournaments may die, but just because a company goes under doesn't mean "The bubble has collapsed" Ya its more of a deflation than a collapse. A collapse would be if MLG and IPL both had to shut down due to both of them taking each others viewers too much. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
This kind of stuff hurts the scene for the reason given above. You can't rely on your income then you have to supplement it in way that cut into your practice time. Going pro in any game is a big risk, this only compounds that. | ||
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Idnn
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Liquid`HayprO
Iraq1230 Posts
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