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On November 01 2011 00:25 T.O.P. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:20 GTR wrote:On November 01 2011 00:18 awesomo0O wrote:
wow midas is already top100 on KR ladder after a few weeks of practice...and he is just a second tier player in bw...cant imagine how the otehres will do.. second tier? back in his prime, he was the best terran in the world, only held back by a certain zerg that shall remain nameless. He's second tier like how Julyzerg and Nada are second tier. Washed up former great player.
Cant believe you compared July and Nada to Midas. Midas was no where near of their levels in his prime, even if he would have not been stopped by Savior he would have not been near them.
And yes he is second tier now, just like boxer was when he switched to sc2.
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On October 31 2011 23:27 shadymmj wrote:
What BW supporters essentially want is to make the we loved game better. SC2 did not deliver that game. We complain in the hope that someone out there will be listening. I believe that if the game is refined for competitive play to a high degree, viewership will naturally rise as a result. But the priority lies with the GAME. The GAME makes the competition, not vice-versa. If the game is shit, we have the right to say so.
If anyone comes to the BW forums and says BW is shit, he'll be banned. The quality of a game is an opinion not a fact. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually of the opinion BW is the more fun game, but that's my opinion, and I welcome anyone to have a different one. You have no right to state your opinion as a fact and thus piss on things people love.
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On November 01 2011 00:35 izen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:25 T.O.P. wrote:On November 01 2011 00:20 GTR wrote:On November 01 2011 00:18 awesomo0O wrote:
wow midas is already top100 on KR ladder after a few weeks of practice...and he is just a second tier player in bw...cant imagine how the otehres will do.. second tier? back in his prime, he was the best terran in the world, only held back by a certain zerg that shall remain nameless. He's second tier like how Julyzerg and Nada are second tier. Washed up former great player. Julyzerg, NaDa 2nd tier washed up? WOW you got no brain cells at all. NaDa's profil BW only Spans to 2009 where he switched to SC2 Julyzerg profile BW onlyJulyzerg was THE zerg and still is. Washed up? think again
Stop insulting people for no reason. They were barely A-team when they switched. Midas is struggling now. They were/are second tier compared to the likes of Leta, BaBy, Snow and so on.
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On November 01 2011 00:35 izen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:25 T.O.P. wrote:On November 01 2011 00:20 GTR wrote:On November 01 2011 00:18 awesomo0O wrote:
wow midas is already top100 on KR ladder after a few weeks of practice...and he is just a second tier player in bw...cant imagine how the otehres will do.. second tier? back in his prime, he was the best terran in the world, only held back by a certain zerg that shall remain nameless. He's second tier like how Julyzerg and Nada are second tier. Washed up former great player. Julyzerg, NaDa 2nd tier washed up? WOW you got no brain cells at all. NaDa's profil BW only Spans to 2009 where he switched to SC2 Julyzerg profile BW onlyJulyzerg was THE zerg and still is. Washed up? think again
At the end of their careers they didn't get to play in proleague.
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On November 01 2011 00:00 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 23:58 Archvil3 wrote:
Why argue BW vs SC2?
It doesnt matter lol. It wont change anything. The transition is going to happen and it is likely to happen as early as HoTS release, maybe even before that. Die Hard BW fans cannot stop with that with their opinions.
So the BW fans wont transition with their players cause they dont like the game? Wow what a loss. It's okay, we only wanted the players in the first place. Hopefully the fan girls follow the BW pros. That's the biggest thing lacking in the SC2 scene. The crowds are 99% guys unlike the BW crowds that can be >50% girls.
Fan girls show up for Marineking and oGsTop.
But the foreign tournys will still be 99% dudes.
Not sure how excited i should be until all these accounts are actually confirmed.
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On November 01 2011 00:37 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:35 izen wrote:On November 01 2011 00:25 T.O.P. wrote:On November 01 2011 00:20 GTR wrote:On November 01 2011 00:18 awesomo0O wrote:
wow midas is already top100 on KR ladder after a few weeks of practice...and he is just a second tier player in bw...cant imagine how the otehres will do.. second tier? back in his prime, he was the best terran in the world, only held back by a certain zerg that shall remain nameless. He's second tier like how Julyzerg and Nada are second tier. Washed up former great player. Julyzerg, NaDa 2nd tier washed up? WOW you got no brain cells at all. NaDa's profil BW only Spans to 2009 where he switched to SC2 Julyzerg profile BW onlyJulyzerg was THE zerg and still is. Washed up? think again Stop insulting people for no reason. They were barely A-team when they switched. Midas is struggling now. They were/are second tier compared to the likes of Leta, BaBy, Snow and so on.
Well, at least soon we do not have to make the theoretical discussion anymore if top BW players would own everything if they switch. We will se what happens and know the answer.
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This make me very happy  i do not know any of the bw players but the amount of people interested in this is amazing. Does this means that BW is on it's end ? (no heard feeling, JUST asking)
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OP is all about rumors and unconfirmed informations. I dont know if there are some actual fatcs in these 132 pages or it's just pure speculations?
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On November 01 2011 00:33 alexhard wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:16 RinconH wrote:On November 01 2011 00:11 Xenocryst wrote:On November 01 2011 00:09 maybenexttime wrote:On November 01 2011 00:06 Xenocryst wrote:On October 31 2011 22:27 maybenexttime wrote:On October 31 2011 22:23 hitthat wrote:On October 31 2011 22:03 maybenexttime wrote:
I meant tournaments boycotting blizzard. Standing up and saying "we won't use your game unless you include LAN". Uhh, dont you think it's quite naive and childish? KeSPA stood up, China stood up. It's possible. The organisations behind the large events would have to be unanimous, though. I don't think Blizzard actually gives a shit at all, they're raking in tons of money and they will lose more on LAN because less people will buy it then they will make on tourneys. Blizzard is not going to back down they will just laugh and eventually they will live without LAN They are slowly destroying their reputation, and they've been riding on it for the past several years. Their games are not that much better than the competition anymore and their support for the games is questionable. That'll bite them in the ass sooner or later, hopefully. Not including LAN is not a huge issue there games are quite a bit better than the competition and every gaming company is run by scumbags these days thats why games cost 60$ and you have to register a key code. They're all greedy and they don't care about the consumer just the dollars in there pocket I can't understand this "companies are greedy" attitude. Blizzard can't include LAN because, if they do, all these lazy kids just pirate the fvck out of their games. It's been proven again and again and again. They deserve to make money for delivering an entertaining game. $60 for hundreds/thousands of hours of gameplay? Steal. LAN for SC2 already exists. You can pirate it and play online, and have a better experience than with bnet because of no 200ms forced lag.
Not implementing lan had probably not much to do with piracy, but more with forcing people to use bnet.
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On November 01 2011 00:18 awesomo0O wrote:
wow midas is already top100 on KR ladder after a few weeks of practice...and he is just a second tier player in bw...cant imagine how the otehres will do..
i highly doubt its him..... or in fact any of these accounts are any of the Pro bw players.
It takes awhile to get to masters in KR no matter how good you are.. you slowly have to edge your way to masters.. and you cant do it in like 80 games = / esp with 50%
so unless they had games from the previous season (alot) these accounts are most likely just smurfs. or fanboys. im sure they're all capable of masters play from the start but with the way the server works.. you just dont get placed in masters.. lol
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On November 01 2011 00:33 alexhard wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:16 RinconH wrote:On November 01 2011 00:11 Xenocryst wrote:On November 01 2011 00:09 maybenexttime wrote:On November 01 2011 00:06 Xenocryst wrote:On October 31 2011 22:27 maybenexttime wrote:On October 31 2011 22:23 hitthat wrote:On October 31 2011 22:03 maybenexttime wrote:
I meant tournaments boycotting blizzard. Standing up and saying "we won't use your game unless you include LAN". Uhh, dont you think it's quite naive and childish? KeSPA stood up, China stood up. It's possible. The organisations behind the large events would have to be unanimous, though. I don't think Blizzard actually gives a shit at all, they're raking in tons of money and they will lose more on LAN because less people will buy it then they will make on tourneys. Blizzard is not going to back down they will just laugh and eventually they will live without LAN They are slowly destroying their reputation, and they've been riding on it for the past several years. Their games are not that much better than the competition anymore and their support for the games is questionable. That'll bite them in the ass sooner or later, hopefully. Not including LAN is not a huge issue there games are quite a bit better than the competition and every gaming company is run by scumbags these days thats why games cost 60$ and you have to register a key code. They're all greedy and they don't care about the consumer just the dollars in there pocket I can't understand this "companies are greedy" attitude. Blizzard can't include LAN because, if they do, all these lazy kids just pirate the fvck out of their games. It's been proven again and again and again. They deserve to make money for delivering an entertaining game. $60 for hundreds/thousands of hours of gameplay? Steal. LAN for SC2 already exists. You can pirate it and play online, and have a better experience than with bnet because of no 200ms forced lag.
Yea and have no ladder to play on.
Beside, it's actually totally fine to have a 200ms forced lag, as long as it is constant. Introducing a "no lag" LAN would actually make practice really complicated for the pros since you have to get used to it, and there is no way to practice that on ladder.
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On November 01 2011 00:27 Pelopidas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:01 ambra wrote:On October 31 2011 23:52 Zzoram wrote:
I just want to see players like Flash and Jaedong play against MVP and Nestea to see if they can translate their sick BW skills to SC2. well some of them eventually will regardless of what the haters think. As someone who plays and enjoys watching professional matches for fun, I just think "the more, the better" and all this "startcraft 2 is for noobs and kids" and "broodwar is for nostalgic tryhards" shitstorm makes me vomit... every gamer and everyone with a passion for starcraft should be happy about how the things are developing instead of investing time hating. I am interested in the high level gameplay showcased by the Brood War pro scene.
if this is the single thing you care about and want to ignore everything else... uh, I dont know, keep at it? If your favourite BW pros happen to move onto sc2, you still might want to check them out
On November 01 2011 00:33 alexhard wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:16 RinconH wrote:On November 01 2011 00:11 Xenocryst wrote:On November 01 2011 00:09 maybenexttime wrote:On November 01 2011 00:06 Xenocryst wrote:On October 31 2011 22:27 maybenexttime wrote:On October 31 2011 22:23 hitthat wrote:On October 31 2011 22:03 maybenexttime wrote:
I meant tournaments boycotting blizzard. Standing up and saying "we won't use your game unless you include LAN". Uhh, dont you think it's quite naive and childish? KeSPA stood up, China stood up. It's possible. The organisations behind the large events would have to be unanimous, though. I don't think Blizzard actually gives a shit at all, they're raking in tons of money and they will lose more on LAN because less people will buy it then they will make on tourneys. Blizzard is not going to back down they will just laugh and eventually they will live without LAN They are slowly destroying their reputation, and they've been riding on it for the past several years. Their games are not that much better than the competition anymore and their support for the games is questionable. That'll bite them in the ass sooner or later, hopefully. Not including LAN is not a huge issue there games are quite a bit better than the competition and every gaming company is run by scumbags these days thats why games cost 60$ and you have to register a key code. They're all greedy and they don't care about the consumer just the dollars in there pocket I can't understand this "companies are greedy" attitude. Blizzard can't include LAN because, if they do, all these lazy kids just pirate the fvck out of their games. It's been proven again and again and again. They deserve to make money for delivering an entertaining game. $60 for hundreds/thousands of hours of gameplay? Steal. LAN for SC2 already exists. You can pirate it and play online, and have a better experience than with bnet because of no 200ms forced lag.
thats what people who pirate games actually believe (never heard of 200ms forced lag and never had any lag during sc2 games in relation to battle.net, ever)
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On November 01 2011 00:25 karpo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:20 maybenexttime wrote:On November 01 2011 00:16 RinconH wrote:On November 01 2011 00:11 Xenocryst wrote:On November 01 2011 00:09 maybenexttime wrote:On November 01 2011 00:06 Xenocryst wrote:On October 31 2011 22:27 maybenexttime wrote:On October 31 2011 22:23 hitthat wrote:On October 31 2011 22:03 maybenexttime wrote:
I meant tournaments boycotting blizzard. Standing up and saying "we won't use your game unless you include LAN". Uhh, dont you think it's quite naive and childish? KeSPA stood up, China stood up. It's possible. The organisations behind the large events would have to be unanimous, though. I don't think Blizzard actually gives a shit at all, they're raking in tons of money and they will lose more on LAN because less people will buy it then they will make on tourneys. Blizzard is not going to back down they will just laugh and eventually they will live without LAN They are slowly destroying their reputation, and they've been riding on it for the past several years. Their games are not that much better than the competition anymore and their support for the games is questionable. That'll bite them in the ass sooner or later, hopefully. Hes not being subjective. Exclusion of LAN doesn't prevent piracy, that's a fact. People who would use a pirated version that can't connect to Bnet would most likely not pay 60$ for the option to play ladder games. That's just common sense. Not including LAN is not a huge issue there games are quite a bit better than the competition and every gaming company is run by scumbags these days thats why games cost 60$ and you have to register a key code. They're all greedy and they don't care about the consumer just the dollars in there pocket I can't understand this "companies are greedy" attitude. Blizzard can't include LAN because, if they do, all these lazy kids just pirate the fvck out of their games. It's been proven again and again and again. They deserve to make money for delivering an entertaining game. $60 for hundreds/thousands of hours of gameplay? Steal. Proven? By whom? When? How? The Chinese have pirated the game regardless of the lack of LAN. I also know plenty of people who pirate games, and not a single one of them would buy the game if he was unable to obtain it illegally - he'd simply skip it... And i know lots of people that download all their singleplayer games and only buy the ones that have online authentication to play. None of us have more than subjective experiences that don't really mean much.
Exclusion of LAN doesn't prevent piracy... that's his point.
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On November 01 2011 00:37 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:35 izen wrote:On November 01 2011 00:25 T.O.P. wrote:On November 01 2011 00:20 GTR wrote:On November 01 2011 00:18 awesomo0O wrote:
wow midas is already top100 on KR ladder after a few weeks of practice...and he is just a second tier player in bw...cant imagine how the otehres will do.. second tier? back in his prime, he was the best terran in the world, only held back by a certain zerg that shall remain nameless. He's second tier like how Julyzerg and Nada are second tier. Washed up former great player. Julyzerg, NaDa 2nd tier washed up? WOW you got no brain cells at all. NaDa's profil BW only Spans to 2009 where he switched to SC2 Julyzerg profile BW onlyJulyzerg was THE zerg and still is. Washed up? think again Stop insulting people for no reason. They were barely A-team when they switched. Midas is struggling now. They were/are second tier compared to the likes of Leta, BaBy, Snow and so on.
Okey i went really overboard there im sorry for that. Yes midas is struggling now but who sais he cant comeback to his form? Like a fotball player, can play great 1 season then the next season they are struggling getting benched and suddenly BAM they are on top again.
But saddens me when people are calling 2 of the best sc:bw players of all time washed up. Like they have no respect for what they did in SC:BW. It's like they are saying "They switched to sc2 i have no respect left for them"
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ive seen the name Midas tons of times in the past easily months and months ago so thats not a account tthats only recently been started up.
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On November 01 2011 00:43 izen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:37 maybenexttime wrote:On November 01 2011 00:35 izen wrote:On November 01 2011 00:25 T.O.P. wrote:On November 01 2011 00:20 GTR wrote:On November 01 2011 00:18 awesomo0O wrote:
wow midas is already top100 on KR ladder after a few weeks of practice...and he is just a second tier player in bw...cant imagine how the otehres will do.. second tier? back in his prime, he was the best terran in the world, only held back by a certain zerg that shall remain nameless. He's second tier like how Julyzerg and Nada are second tier. Washed up former great player. Julyzerg, NaDa 2nd tier washed up? WOW you got no brain cells at all. NaDa's profil BW only Spans to 2009 where he switched to SC2 Julyzerg profile BW onlyJulyzerg was THE zerg and still is. Washed up? think again Stop insulting people for no reason. They were barely A-team when they switched. Midas is struggling now. They were/are second tier compared to the likes of Leta, BaBy, Snow and so on. Okey i went really overboard there im sorry for that. Yes midas is struggling now but who sais he cant comeback to his form? Like a fotball player, can play great 1 season then the next season they are struggling getting benched and suddenly BAM they are on top again. But saddens me when people are calling 2 of the best sc:bw players of all time washed up. Like they have no respect for what they did in SC:BW. It's like they are saying "They switched to sc2 i have no respect left for them"
It's not that. We have tons of respect for them and root for them.
They just weren't at their peaks when they switched. But NaDa is still legendary and July was still the fucking God of War.
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On November 01 2011 00:35 izen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:25 T.O.P. wrote:On November 01 2011 00:20 GTR wrote:On November 01 2011 00:18 awesomo0O wrote:
wow midas is already top100 on KR ladder after a few weeks of practice...and he is just a second tier player in bw...cant imagine how the otehres will do.. second tier? back in his prime, he was the best terran in the world, only held back by a certain zerg that shall remain nameless. He's second tier like how Julyzerg and Nada are second tier. Washed up former great player. Julyzerg, NaDa 2nd tier washed up? WOW you got no brain cells at all. NaDa's profil BW only Spans to 2009 where he switched to SC2 Julyzerg profile BW onlyJulyzerg was THE zerg and still is. Washed up? think again
27-27 since 01/01/2009 for July , 2-5 since 2010
18-22 since 01/01/2009 for NaDa, 5-3 since 2010
They were washed up in that they barely played AT ALL, and had a not-so-bad, not-so-good record.
Not playing = you're not doing good in in-house rankings.
July's last appearing in ProLeague was on 04/05/2009. NaDa still played some times and had some good games. He's always been a beast, just... less.
They weren't considered favorites against A class progamers at that time, and thus, were effectively second tier players. (doesn't mean they were not legends anymore though)
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On November 01 2011 00:43 izen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:37 maybenexttime wrote:On November 01 2011 00:35 izen wrote:On November 01 2011 00:25 T.O.P. wrote:On November 01 2011 00:20 GTR wrote:On November 01 2011 00:18 awesomo0O wrote:
wow midas is already top100 on KR ladder after a few weeks of practice...and he is just a second tier player in bw...cant imagine how the otehres will do.. second tier? back in his prime, he was the best terran in the world, only held back by a certain zerg that shall remain nameless. He's second tier like how Julyzerg and Nada are second tier. Washed up former great player. Julyzerg, NaDa 2nd tier washed up? WOW you got no brain cells at all. NaDa's profil BW only Spans to 2009 where he switched to SC2 Julyzerg profile BW onlyJulyzerg was THE zerg and still is. Washed up? think again Stop insulting people for no reason. They were barely A-team when they switched. Midas is struggling now. They were/are second tier compared to the likes of Leta, BaBy, Snow and so on. Okey i went really overboard there im sorry for that. But saddens me when people are calling 2 of the best sc:bw players of all time washed up. Like they have no respect for what they did in SC:BW. It's like they are saying "They switched to sc2 i have no respect left for them"
They were amazing in their prime in SC:BW. But they weren't in their prime when they switched to SC2, I don't think this can be argued as it's backed up by their results and how much playtime they got.
Calling them "washed up" is basically just attention grabbing, you'd see the same thing said about veteran players in the NFL who are past their prime, it does not necessarily mean disrespect, but the wording should preferably be chosen better.
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