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All I want to know is how this could possibly happen with the Gretech/Kespa hostilities, as I understand it Kespa were allowed to continue broadcasting BW, but SC2? I never heard anything about that. And IF Kespa are going to go about it alone, will the Kespa pro gamers ever be allowed to compete with GSL competitors?
Will the leagues remain separate and will we see OSL/GSL cross-over leagues / events? (I'm thinking like WWF/WCW here) Or will Kespa and Gretech actually come to an understanding and have a combined league? Or will Kespa simply keep SC2 to team leagues only (although I think this will clearly have a negative impact on practice schedules for the pro gamers.)
Anyway these are just some of the things I want to know, I couldn't care less about who is actually actively playing SC2.
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Any of them thinking about switching races? Would be interesting to see Bisu say "fuck toss" and go zerg or terran.
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On November 01 2011 00:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 23:27 shadymmj wrote: What BW supporters essentially want is to make the we loved game better. SC2 did not deliver that game. We complain in the hope that someone out there will be listening. I believe that if the game is refined for competitive play to a high degree, viewership will naturally rise as a result. But the priority lies with the GAME. The GAME makes the competition, not vice-versa. If the game is shit, we have the right to say so.
If anyone comes to the BW forums and says BW is shit, he'll be banned. The quality of a game is an opinion not a fact. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually of the opinion BW is the more fun game, but that's my opinion, and I welcome anyone to have a different one. You have no right to state your opinion as a fact and thus piss on things people love.
i don't moderate this site, i don't necessarily agree with some policies, and i don't proclaim that anything i say is anything more than an opinion...when it clearly is one.
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i bet a load will go Terran, unfortualtely!!!!
Hopefully the big names will stay with their loyalty!!!
Bisu better stay Toss!!!
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On November 01 2011 00:35 izen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:25 T.O.P. wrote:On November 01 2011 00:20 GTR wrote:On November 01 2011 00:18 awesomo0O wrote: wow midas is already top100 on KR ladder after a few weeks of practice...and he is just a second tier player in bw...cant imagine how the otehres will do.. second tier? back in his prime, he was the best terran in the world, only held back by a certain zerg that shall remain nameless. He's second tier like how Julyzerg and Nada are second tier. Washed up former great player. Julyzerg, NaDa 2nd tier washed up? WOW you got no brain cells at all. NaDa's profil BW only Spans to 2009 where he switched to SC2 Julyzerg profile BW onlyJulyzerg was THE zerg and still is. Washed up? think again Izen, don't insult other people like that. And yes, neither July nor NaDa was being sent on Proleague or even makint into Individual leagues when they switched over.
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On November 01 2011 00:55 antilyon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:35 izen wrote:On November 01 2011 00:25 T.O.P. wrote:On November 01 2011 00:20 GTR wrote:On November 01 2011 00:18 awesomo0O wrote: wow midas is already top100 on KR ladder after a few weeks of practice...and he is just a second tier player in bw...cant imagine how the otehres will do.. second tier? back in his prime, he was the best terran in the world, only held back by a certain zerg that shall remain nameless. He's second tier like how Julyzerg and Nada are second tier. Washed up former great player. Julyzerg, NaDa 2nd tier washed up? WOW you got no brain cells at all. NaDa's profil BW only Spans to 2009 where he switched to SC2 Julyzerg profile BW onlyJulyzerg was THE zerg and still is. Washed up? think again Izen, don't insult other people like that. And yes, neither July nor NaDa was being sent on Proleague or even makint into Individual leagues when they switched over.
Already said im sorry, the anger got the best off me Can say it again im sorry T.O.P. Oh yea Deal with it, Im swedish. Like jinro would say. ^^
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On November 01 2011 00:51 shadymmj wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:37 Palmar wrote:On October 31 2011 23:27 shadymmj wrote: What BW supporters essentially want is to make the we loved game better. SC2 did not deliver that game. We complain in the hope that someone out there will be listening. I believe that if the game is refined for competitive play to a high degree, viewership will naturally rise as a result. But the priority lies with the GAME. The GAME makes the competition, not vice-versa. If the game is shit, we have the right to say so.
If anyone comes to the BW forums and says BW is shit, he'll be banned. The quality of a game is an opinion not a fact. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually of the opinion BW is the more fun game, but that's my opinion, and I welcome anyone to have a different one. You have no right to state your opinion as a fact and thus piss on things people love. i don't moderate this site, i don't necessarily agree with some policies, and i don't proclaim that anything i say is anything more than an opinion...when it clearly is one.
I am sorry then as I must have misunderstood you, because "If the game is shit, we have the right to say so" is a lot more ambiguous than just saying "If we think the game is shit, we have the right to say so".
I don't want to start a flamewar, but I think you should just imagine what happened if some random sc2 player came into the bw forums and said "This game is shit".
Anwyay, let's drop it.
I wish people would focus on the news, which is the players, not the respective quality of the game or importance of the scene.
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Following the path paved by his former teammate Yellow, eh? ;p
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I heared rumors about JD practicing SC2 too but i´m not sure at all but would be AMAZING if all the SC1 "Bonjuas" prac SC2. did eny1 hear this rumors too or did my friand just roll me over? =)
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Ok, you guys have some problems, there is nothing wrong to have your B-teamer to switch to sc2. At BW, they hold no value to the team. They get no televised exposure and no practice value (unless they hope that BW will last another 10 more years). Switch them to SC2, they pop in Code A/S, oh look, now your sponsors logo are popping up in more mediums. Sponsors happy, players happy, team happy and sc2 fans happy. The only people who are sad and sicken are BW fans not seeing their favorite b-teamer in the cheering stand.
:-/
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@FishForThought Well i wouldnt call Bisu and Flash a Bteamer same for Hydra ^^
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Oh shit. It's about to go dooooooooooown!
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On November 01 2011 00:49 skipgamer wrote: All I want to know is how this could possibly happen with the Gretech/Kespa hostilities, as I understand it Kespa were allowed to continue broadcasting BW, but SC2? I never heard anything about that. And IF Kespa are going to go about it alone, will the Kespa pro gamers ever be allowed to compete with GSL competitors?
Will the leagues remain separate and will we see OSL/GSL cross-over leagues / events? (I'm thinking like WWF/WCW here) Or will Kespa and Gretech actually come to an understanding and have a combined league? Or will Kespa simply keep SC2 to team leagues only (although I think this will clearly have a negative impact on practice schedules for the pro gamers.)
Anyway these are just some of the things I want to know, I couldn't care less about who is actually actively playing SC2.
I've been wondering this too. Obviously if Kespa allows Gretech/GSL teams to play in the proleague, they'll dominate it; these BW teams are definitely great, but they won't be better than SlayerS and other top teams after a few weeks/months of practice. Perhaps Kespa will decide to make their league exclusive temporarily? How many team slots will there be? Since there already are so many SC2 teams, would Kespa have some type of qualifier, for instance?
I wouldn't be surprised if the first season is closed to GSL teams.
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On October 31 2011 22:15 Clefairy wrote:Update: List of BW pros possibly playing SC2There has been a screenshot of a friends list filled with the Real IDs of several CJ, STX and SK players making it's way around the Korean web. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OPhm8.jpg)
they never used real ids in the past, why would they in sc2? and, current bw->sc2 players never used original ids either. so silly to think these are the real players
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On November 01 2011 01:09 gCgCrypto wrote: @FishForThought Well i wouldnt call Bisu and Flash a Bteamer same for Hydra ^^
He doesn't seems to know what he's talking about tbh...
Will be very exciting to see, I hope Bisu will save Auir!
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This can only be considered good news. Nothing lasts forever. I think BW was there for a very long time, a lot longer than other games. Probably only CS is as durable as BW.
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On November 01 2011 01:08 FishForThought wrote: Ok, you guys have some problems, there is nothing wrong to have your B-teamer to switch to sc2. At BW, they hold no value to the team. They get no televised exposure and no practice value (unless they hope that BW will last another 10 more years). Switch them to SC2, they pop in Code A/S, oh look, now your sponsors logo are popping up in more mediums. Sponsors happy, players happy, team happy and sc2 fans happy. The only people who are sad and sicken are BW fans not seeing their favorite b-teamer in the cheering stand.
:-/
B-team players, hell, even practice partners, are crucial to their teams.
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On November 01 2011 01:10 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 22:15 Clefairy wrote:Update: List of BW pros possibly playing SC2There has been a screenshot of a friends list filled with the Real IDs of several CJ, STX and SK players making it's way around the Korean web. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OPhm8.jpg) they never used real ids in the past, why would they in sc2? and, current bw->sc2 players never used original ids either. so silly to think these are the real players
the thing is these are korean friends list, with sc2 you NEED to have a correct email account so if they are freinds by email it will say their full name and not their usernmae. So we know they have accounts on sc2 because they need a proper email and it says their full name just not wot username they are using.
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