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flanksteak
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada246 Posts
October 31 2011 16:19 GMT
#2681
After reading a bit of the thread, feels like this is a pretty unique problem to e-sports - it's like if you watch basketball and then a couple years later they release basketball 2, the sequel to the sport basketball, and add a 4 point line with higher nets and a wider court and change the size of the ball etc etc. I know there are rule changes in other sports (three point line didn't exist up until a year before I was born, lol), but they tend to happen slowly, and are rarely as drastic. Anyway, it's just not the same sport you watched, even if they are part of the same lineage. I know I'd personally just keep watching basketball if that was the sport I grew up with, particularly if I felt like the original sport provided better entertainment.
Zerksys
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States569 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 16:29:10
October 31 2011 16:22 GMT
#2682
On October 31 2011 20:37 esotericc wrote:
Man you BW guys are really bitter about Sc2. Maybe I should come shit up the BW forum complaining about graphics and other short comings, fortunately I have more respect for another games community then that.

We like our game you like yours, shitting on ours isn't going to stop any progress in either direction and just makes you look stupid.


Just adding fuel to the flames dude. I also dislike the fact that you call it "our game" claiming that people who like brood war better and complain about sc2's shortcomings do not enjoy sc2. Why can't we like both? By the way I really hate posts about scbw's graphics. If you want to criticize bw please do so in other ways other than graphics. Let me put it to you guys in a way that you can understand. Saying sc2 is better because of better graphics and AI is like saying Zelda: Windwaker is better than Zelda: Ocarina of Time because of improved ai and graphics.

Similarly I'm tired of people bashing sc2 for its unit clumping. PEOPLE GET OVER THE WAY A GAME LOOKS. A GAME SHOULD BE JUDGED NOT BY THE COLOR OF ITS SKIN BUT BY THE CONTENT OF ITS CHARACTER.

On November 01 2011 01:19 flanksteak wrote:
After reading a bit of the thread, feels like this is a pretty unique problem to e-sports - it's like if you watch basketball and then a couple years later they release basketball 2, the sequel to the sport basketball, and add a 4 point line with higher nets and a wider court and change the size of the ball etc etc. I know there are rule changes in other sports (three point line didn't exist up until a year before I was born, lol), but they tend to happen slowly, and are rarely as drastic. Anyway, it's just not the same sport you watched, even if they are part of the same lineage. I know I'd personally just keep watching basketball if that was the sport I grew up with, particularly if I felt like the original sport provided better entertainment.


It's more than just that. Many people in this forum complain about BW without acutally having fully delved into the experience. Having played and been an active spectator of both, I can fully say that BW has a more complicated metagame which results in more diversity in strategies and playstyles. Your comparison would be more valid if you were to say that they came out with basketball 2 and took out the 3 point line, made dunks worth 1 point, and made buckets worth 2. There would be an outrage if this happened.

That being said most BW players on this forum make us as a whole look bad by flaming sc2 and all that its worth and could be worth in the future.
What's that probe doing there? It's a scout. You mean one of those flying planes? No....
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
October 31 2011 16:24 GMT
#2683
On November 01 2011 01:14 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 01:08 FishForThought wrote:
Ok, you guys have some problems, there is nothing wrong to have your B-teamer to switch to sc2. At BW, they hold no value to the team. They get no televised exposure and no practice value (unless they hope that BW will last another 10 more years). Switch them to SC2, they pop in Code A/S, oh look, now your sponsors logo are popping up in more mediums. Sponsors happy, players happy, team happy and sc2 fans happy. The only people who are sad and sicken are BW fans not seeing their favorite b-teamer in the cheering stand.

:-/


B-team players, hell, even practice partners, are crucial to their teams.


Only crucial if other teams have practice partners. If all teams lose their B-teamers/practice partners, then it will still be fair competition.
We talkin about PRACTICE
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
October 31 2011 16:25 GMT
#2684
ouch - thats gonna hurt!

they'll clean ship within a few months!^^
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
SC Trickster
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark100 Posts
October 31 2011 16:26 GMT
#2685
On November 01 2011 01:10 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 22:15 Clefairy wrote:
Update: List of BW pros possibly playing SC2

There has been a screenshot of a friends list filled with the Real IDs of several CJ, STX and SK players making it's way around the Korean web.

[image loading]


they never used real ids in the past, why would they in sc2? and, current bw->sc2 players never used original ids either. so silly to think these are the real players


Real ID = real names shown
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
October 31 2011 16:28 GMT
#2686
Really great news imo. I have so many players I still really like in bw it's going to be good to see them again.
lagbeast
Profile Joined July 2007
Sweden33 Posts
October 31 2011 16:29 GMT
#2687
So what's bisus supposed id-link?
plaeguuuuu GG
Kahlgar
Profile Joined June 2011
411 Posts
October 31 2011 16:29 GMT
#2688
I, for one, come from a war3 background and really never followed bw but i can't wait to see the bw pros playing sc2.

Having all the rts communities merged together would beyond awesome both in term of competitivity and growth of pro gaming.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
October 31 2011 16:29 GMT
#2689
On November 01 2011 01:10 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 22:15 Clefairy wrote:
Update: List of BW pros possibly playing SC2

There has been a screenshot of a friends list filled with the Real IDs of several CJ, STX and SK players making it's way around the Korean web.

[image loading]


they never used real ids in the past, why would they in sc2? and, current bw->sc2 players never used original ids either. so silly to think these are the real players


You have to register with your korean social security number and proper email, that is a fact I know for sure.

What I am assuming is the reason this screenshot is impressive is because they are real ID friends with their proper names.

It would take a lot of work for someone to fake that many accounts. You would have to find people with the same name as the BW pro's you want to impersonate and then create bnet accounts using their KSSN.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
October 31 2011 16:30 GMT
#2690
Man. The day the dong switches, I will be the happiest little panda.
Dead girls don't say no.
Origine
Profile Joined January 2010
France167 Posts
October 31 2011 16:32 GMT
#2691
Plz Bisu play terran otherwise i'll have to switch race again t_____t
https://twitter.com/thomAufresne
Zerksys
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States569 Posts
October 31 2011 16:34 GMT
#2692
In all this BW and sc2 fight I almost forgot to post that I'm really excited to see this happen. I expect to see a lot of innovations in how the game is played after these guys have some time to play around with the game. Remember most of these guys got where they were today by bringing something new and innovative to the scene BW, not just great mechanics. I want to see similar innovations in the future.
What's that probe doing there? It's a scout. You mean one of those flying planes? No....
lagbeast
Profile Joined July 2007
Sweden33 Posts
October 31 2011 16:34 GMT
#2693
On November 01 2011 01:32 Origine wrote:
Plz Bisu play terran otherwise i'll have to switch race again t_____t

HAHAHAH I thought the same thing :D KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!
plaeguuuuu GG
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 31 2011 16:36 GMT
#2694
On November 01 2011 01:32 Origine wrote:
Plz Bisu play terran otherwise i'll have to switch race again t_____t


Wow. What kind of Brotoss are you? No loyalty to Aiur at all.

Bisu is forever Protoss.
Writer:o
lagbeast
Profile Joined July 2007
Sweden33 Posts
October 31 2011 16:36 GMT
#2695
On November 01 2011 01:36 seraphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 01:32 Origine wrote:
Plz Bisu play terran otherwise i'll have to switch race again t_____t


Wow. What kind of Brotoss are you? No loyalty to Aiur at all.

Bisu is forever Protoss.

Do you know what his id is?
plaeguuuuu GG
Origine
Profile Joined January 2010
France167 Posts
October 31 2011 16:38 GMT
#2696
On November 01 2011 01:36 seraphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 01:32 Origine wrote:
Plz Bisu play terran otherwise i'll have to switch race again t_____t


Wow. What kind of Brotoss are you? No loyalty to Aiur at all.

Bisu is forever Protoss.


Sc2 has no reaver, thats why >,>
https://twitter.com/thomAufresne
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
October 31 2011 16:39 GMT
#2697
What im questioning with this rumor craziness is whether they actually play the game.. It wouldn't surprise me if all BW progamers have at least played a couple of games of SC2 just to check it out. Also wouldn't surprise me if many of them had a personal account for their own personal reasons or maybe were given to them. Doesn't exactly prove anything besides the fact that they have at least registered an account :D

Unless you can provide proper ladder records of possible smurfs/IDs on Bnet like the ones that were found for ForGG (Raptor and now oGsFin) long time ago, then this doesnt really prove much :D
Sure some of the IDs linked in this thread have played a few games on ladder and are in masters league, but that hardly is evidence of them considering to play the game on a pro level.
@Munck
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 16:41:50
October 31 2011 16:41 GMT
#2698
Wow thats a shitload of Protoss players! I wonder how many of them will stay with Protoss tho.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
October 31 2011 16:42 GMT
#2699
On November 01 2011 01:41 Termit wrote:
Wow thats a shitload of Protoss players! I wonder how many of them will stay with Protoss tho.

The prayers of the Sad Zealots have been heard.
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
October 31 2011 16:43 GMT
#2700
On November 01 2011 01:39 mnck wrote:
What im questioning with this rumor craziness is whether they actually play the game.. It wouldn't surprise me if all BW progamers have at least played a couple of games of SC2 just to check it out. Also wouldn't surprise me if many of them had a personal account for their own personal reasons or maybe were given to them. Doesn't exactly prove anything besides the fact that they have at least registered an account :D

Unless you can provide proper ladder records of possible smurfs/IDs on Bnet like the ones that were found for ForGG (Raptor and now oGsFin) long time ago, then this doesnt really prove much :D
Sure some of the IDs linked in this thread have played a few games on ladder and are in masters league, but that hardly is evidence of them considering to play the game on a pro level.

the two ids that i've seen linked (midas and hydra i think) have both been circa 100th ranking on the korean ladder so i would say at least some are playing the game seriously
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