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BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
February 12 2012 19:49 GMT
#1041
This thread is pointless and short-sighted. People should please stop bumping this. Give the game time, and calm down. Everyone whines every patch and how the balance changes don't change the game or change the game too much.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
February 12 2012 19:49 GMT
#1042
Well I only read the OP - but your'e completely and totally right. A flank is funner than sheer medivac power. Storm is funner than fungal even though fungal is more powerful - it can be dodged. The added uncertainty of how good a storm will be is far more entertaining to the spectator. And even that isn't as cool as sheer out-maneuvering an opponent. Frankly, I feel like HOTS is going to create a mini-slump in SC2 e-sports.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 12 2012 19:53 GMT
#1043
haha i actually thought someone made this thread again, but then i saw it was just a necro with no funny wall of text to read. Anyway agree a bit on the patch aiming for spectating rather then gameplay, as the balance isn't really affected by the patch, but some turtle styles are being removed, or given a new way to not turtle.
Trusty
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand520 Posts
February 12 2012 19:54 GMT
#1044
On November 22 2011 19:19 spajn wrote:
also i think its lame siegetanks do only 35 dmg per shot to zealots, should be changed.. zealots with speed, colossus, phoenix is enough to counter siegetanks, low dmg per shot to fast hugehealth tier 1 unit makes siegetanks a joke TvP make it BW style.


Siege tanks also did 35 damage to zealots in BW. They also had a slower rate-of-fire.
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
February 12 2012 20:08 GMT
#1045
Guys lets just rage at blizzard cuz they added unit clumping into the game.
While the Thor and the replicent are wierd units, they said that they dont expect the thor to be used in compedetive play
and the replicent can actully find its place, gona be really hard to balance though.

Now lets all rage aboute clumping and the viper cloud being to small and lasting 2 seconds.
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
February 12 2012 20:11 GMT
#1046
On February 13 2012 04:49 BretZ wrote:
This thread is pointless and short-sighted. People should please stop bumping this. Give the game time, and calm down. Everyone whines every patch and how the balance changes don't change the game or change the game too much.


You don't understand what he is talking about, he is not saying that the replicant will be OP or UP, he is saying that the design of the unit is just retarded.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 20:30:44
February 12 2012 20:30 GMT
#1047
On February 13 2012 04:44 RajaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 04:41 blade55555 wrote:
On February 13 2012 04:31 fabiano wrote:
To tell you the truth, BW never tried to become global eSports, in fact I doubt Blizzard really intended BW to become an eSports game.

It just happened to be because BW became the perfect game, and the exponential growth was natural.

SC2 is trying hard to be what BW is, and it is failing at many points.


It is also succeeding in many points as well.


Shh, don't ruin a good whining party with facts.


No one denies SC2 is succeding at some points, Mr. RajaF, though the points where SC2 fails are very serious and shouldn't be ignored by Blizzard like they are currently doing.

Open your eyes
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
OutofmymindSC2
Profile Joined January 2012
Bulgaria80 Posts
February 12 2012 20:41 GMT
#1048
Totally agree with TT1

I don't like how the game is developing and I don't like at all how Protoss is gonna look in HOTS. I think the Blizzard crew really needs to read the last paragraph and take immediate changes on the Protoss in HOTS

Also, I just wanted to briefly talk about the new protoss units in HOTS. It feels like each unit that we're getting is extremely role oriented as opposed to the new units from other races. For example, the viper/swarm host are good all-around units which are going to work well vs almost any unit compo. The same can be said for the terran units to an extent; the t/z army mixes are going to be vastly different from the ones that we've been seeing in WoL, but are the protoss army compositions going to be any different? The tempest is an extremely role-oriented unit (that is extremely expensive and supply heavy as well) which will only be made if a zerg goes for a heavy muta composition or lategame broodlords. The oracle is a harasser and the replicant is a horribly designed unit that I don't want to comment upon further. I promise you that a huge majority protoss users are still gonna stick to their gate unit/colo army comps. =/ Our unit variety seriously sucks.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 12 2012 20:45 GMT
#1049
On February 13 2012 04:54 Trusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 19:19 spajn wrote:
also i think its lame siegetanks do only 35 dmg per shot to zealots, should be changed.. zealots with speed, colossus, phoenix is enough to counter siegetanks, low dmg per shot to fast hugehealth tier 1 unit makes siegetanks a joke TvP make it BW style.


Siege tanks also did 35 damage to zealots in BW. They also had a slower rate-of-fire.

Siege tanks did FULL damage against shields in BW, so until the shields were gone, thats 100% damage per shot.

You miss mines more then anything but Siege tanks did more then 35 damage to zealots before shields
WriterXiao8~~
Berailfor
Profile Joined January 2012
441 Posts
February 12 2012 20:46 GMT
#1050
Yeah I think the points in the OP are invalid. Like post 1 said. Your putting words in blizzards mouth. They didn't say "oh we added replicant to stop 1-1-1." and 1-1-1 isn't even that good of a build anymore. I personally think the replicant is gonna be awesome. And I can't wait until the Zerg are complaining to nerf fungal growth because it's too OP when Protoss uses it against them. Mwuhahahahaha!!!
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
February 12 2012 22:25 GMT
#1051
Replicate is fine way to hold 1/1/1. If you give toss too early aoe unit instead to hold 1/1/1 combined with FF they will just roll zerg every game who relies on weak melee speedlings early. This address 1/1/1 without breaking game and will allow for shorter maps again too. I don't see any imbalances either by SCV and massive being off limits to replicate. There is nothing Zerg has worth replicating compared to Protoss units which are strong but expensive. Only the Tank and maybe banshee is worth it in PvT since again Protoss units are expensive and good. 1/1/1's issue is no early AOE, that's why it does not work vs zerg and banes but works great against toss. Giving them a tank in that one matchup takes care of that bit of cheese.

MC for president
PureBalls
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria383 Posts
February 12 2012 22:56 GMT
#1052
On February 13 2012 07:25 tdt wrote:
Replicate is fine way to hold 1/1/1. If you give toss too early aoe unit instead to hold 1/1/1 combined with FF they will just roll zerg every game who relies on weak melee speedlings early. This address 1/1/1 without breaking game and will allow for shorter maps again too. I don't see any imbalances either by SCV and massive being off limits to replicate. There is nothing Zerg has worth replicating compared to Protoss units which are strong but expensive. Only the Tank and maybe banshee is worth it in PvT since again Protoss units are expensive and good. 1/1/1's issue is no early AOE, that's why it does not work vs zerg and banes but works great against toss. Giving them a tank in that one matchup takes care of that bit of cheese.



1) Make replicant
2) replicate infestor
3) fungal zerg army
4) storm the shit out of it
5) ?????????????
6) profit




P.S. I'm a toss player, in case ur asking...
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
February 12 2012 22:56 GMT
#1053
Shouldn't have been bumped.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
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