EPTEdit: really sick of bowder excuses for lan, map and stupid unit design. also the "we just put in sometihing cool and look how it works" is really not something that I expect from a game that is in this stage. I really think they should look at BW again and look how things work there and how they could make things more interesting.
TL interviews Dustin Browder at Blizzcon - Page 26
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KULA_u
Switzerland107 Posts
Edit: really sick of bowder excuses for lan, map and stupid unit design. also the "we just put in sometihing cool and look how it works" is really not something that I expect from a game that is in this stage. I really think they should look at BW again and look how things work there and how they could make things more interesting. | ||
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kickinhead
Switzerland2069 Posts
- How can he not know how heavily the community is engaged in making Maps, testing them out, organizing tournaments with the new Maps etc. I thought ICCUP had reached out to Blizzard several times and did exactly what Browder said was a necessary effort by the community to further improve the Maps, but he seemed like he had no clue about that. - Also, there shouldn't be such a problem coming up with ways to better the Mappool and make Mapmaking and playing on those Maps more attractive: Why not make community-contests where ppl vote on Maps and the best one gets into the new season Ladder-Mappool? Or rotate Maps from Korea into the Mappool faster; I mean - they do Test their Maps before they make it into the GSL. It's all there; Blizzard just needs to take whats given to them! | ||
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
Get a life. Jesus. It's not even in beta. They don't owe you (or anyone else) shit, and here they are, working their asses off to put as much cool shit into the game that they're hoping will do nothing but make it better. And all you can do is act like juvenile, angry little nerdlings. They listen to feedback, they make meaningful changes, Browder is clearly a smart guy, and if some of you would get out of your basements for once, you'd realize that. The only other person from the gaming community that I respect as much as Browder is Gabe Newell. That dude actually responds to all ten thousand emails he gets when a new game comes out. I'd buy both of those guys a beer in a heartbeat (though maybe a light beer for gabe :D ) On October 26 2011 00:41 kickinhead wrote: I actually liked this Interview of Dustin Browder, cuz often, he kinda sounds like he has absolutely no clue, but this time, there was only 1 thing that completely baffled me: - How can he not know how heavily the community is engaged in making Maps, testing them out, organizing tournaments with the new Maps etc. I thought ICCUP had reached out to Blizzard several times and did exactly what Browder said was a necessary effort by the community to further improve the Maps, but he seemed like he had no clue about that. - Also, there shouldn't be such a problem coming up with ways to better the Mappool and make Mapmaking and playing on those Maps more attractive: Why not make community-contests where ppl vote on Maps and the best one gets into the new season Ladder-Mappool? Or rotate Maps from Korea into the Mappool faster; I mean - they do Test their Maps before they make it into the GSL. It's all there; Blizzard just needs to take whats given to them! Seriously? All he did was acknowledge immediately that the problem was fascinating and that he was really interested in it, but clearly said he didn't know how to answer it. All he could do is tell us the CURRENT theory they follow. But I have a sneaking suspicion, based on the enthusiasm he approached the idea with, that we might see something come of it. | ||
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Theeakoz
United States1114 Posts
On October 25 2011 16:50 Nemireck wrote: He's obviously a teenager man, that's what they do. Right... well I as a teenager was so stubborn I never agreed even if I knew I was wrong. | ||
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secretary bird
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On October 26 2011 00:18 Achaia wrote: Isn't a race being "complete" in SC2 a bad thing? I mean each race is supposed to have it's own difficulties that make them different. With Zerg I think most people would agree that the difficulty is walking the fine line between building army units and economy units, one small miss-step in that tight rope walk whether it's because of bad scouting or timing can cost you the game. With Protoss it seems to be more about map position in engagements and having the right unit combination in your death ball to deal with opponents. With Terrans it seems like their options are literally limitless with no drawbacks to most of them. I dunno, that's at least my perception of it but I'm far from the top tier of SC2 players. The point being, if one race is "complete" then it seems that either that race needs some options removed so they have similar limitations to the other races (not specifically like theirs because obviously each race is different but a racially defining weakness) or the other races need to be improved to be equally as "complete". So you dont need a good engagement or the right units with terran too? You could walk into a choke against Colossi with no Vikings and you're fine? Isnt building drones or units also a huge advantage for Zergs? I dont see your point at all. | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On October 25 2011 22:48 simansh wrote: How could they 'do something for tournaments' but not make lan work for everyone else. he says something about maps comings down from the server, but how would that be any different from tournaments? I like hes at least being honest like "Sorry no LAN", but still it feels like he doesn't actually say the real reason which is money. Locally hosted servers, like for WoW | ||
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
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Kerm
France467 Posts
Did not even knew that that was existing for WoW, but yeah that would be pretty much all that is needed to fix the tournament issues without going to LAN mode. And money is a good reason not to implement LAN btw. SCII costs millions to devellop AND millions to support, you gotta find those somewhere. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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Shollef
Sweden40 Posts
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xsevR
United States324 Posts
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debasers
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
I was at the 17:00 minute marker and I moved my cursor down to see how much more was left and I was very disappointed to see I was almost done. :-( | ||
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
Pretty bold but i am sure he has his orders and if the company does not want lan and has no interest in implementing if then he has to follow it. For map maps. He sees the troubles mapmakers have and understands that battlenet 2.0 is inadequate for what they need. But he cant do anything about it because the ladder map pool has to be somewhat final and not be heavily adjusted weekly. They are open to using gsl maps in their pool. | ||
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HeavenResign
United States702 Posts
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
It's both sad and typical that there are so many complaints, especially about LAN. Dustin Browder is not a lawyer and probably not heavily involved in making financial decisions (except with how potential customers perceive he's doing his job of designing the game). In other words, he is not the right guy from whom to demand LAN. That seems pretty clear to me now, after reading some actual good comments and pondering myself. If the complainers out there cannot see that Blizzard is at least coming around a little to your vision of how the game should be, and be just a little bit grateful, just remember that + Show Spoiler + Harry used a shovel to bury Dobby. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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No_Roo
United States905 Posts
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Vexas
United States98 Posts
I love that Dustin proved to actually be relatively open and talked very "normally" in my opinion. There was some obvious moments where he was trying to stay away from the subject (Terran as mentioned in some of the earlier posts) but for the most part he seemed like he wanted to be as honest as he could be about all the questions asked. Also I think the questions about maps that were thrown at him largely affected the decision to remove maps in Season 4 as well as make the correct fixes on some of the older maps (Metal and ST) Good job all around and Blizzard just keeps on making me happy! Gl and Hf! | ||
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I was just about to say that.
