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Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 07:52:42
October 18 2011 07:52 GMT
#841
On October 18 2011 10:02 Carbonthief wrote:
Whatever it is, I hope it does splash damage.


Dont you guys have enough splash damage?

Anyways, I dunno what this is but I hope it replaces the Collossus.
Abductedonut
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States324 Posts
October 18 2011 07:52 GMT
#842
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this... but...



Looks exactly like the soul hunter from the alpha. Also, at 2:00 you can see a reaver in that video =D
spelhus
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 07:54:36
October 18 2011 07:53 GMT
#843
Mhhh, let's see its obviously a flying unit. So it's obviously not good vs marines. For me its quite dissapointing but hey maybe it have some great anti marine spell, who knows.
NET
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States703 Posts
October 18 2011 07:54 GMT
#844
Phoenix Corsair-esk hybrid that has chronorift from the secrete mission in the campaign!

That means air spell caster that is also a harass unit!
"Dark Templar are the saviors of the Protoss Race." -Artosis
Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
October 18 2011 07:55 GMT
#845
On October 18 2011 16:52 Abductedonut wrote:
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this... but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30MBljXxg3M

Looks exactly like the soul hunter from the alpha. Also, at 2:00 you can see a reaver in that video =D


@ 2:14, that reaper got completely pwned.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 18 2011 07:56 GMT
#846
On October 18 2011 16:52 Abductedonut wrote:
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this... but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30MBljXxg3M

Looks exactly like the soul hunter from the alpha. Also, at 2:00 you can see a reaver in that video =D


Offtopic but

My god Twilight archon is so fcking badass from what I can see.
WriterXiao8~~
simbot
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia95 Posts
October 18 2011 07:56 GMT
#847
Hopefully it can't be seen without detection, has one spell that doesnt need researching which is both AOE damage and stun :D
spelhus
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany52 Posts
October 18 2011 07:59 GMT
#848
Anyone else has the feeling that the thing in the middle is a kind of a twilight scarab?
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
October 18 2011 08:02 GMT
#849
I think it´s a flying harass unit. It looks like lightning going into the middle so I think it will shoot awesome little lightning bolts with an awesome sound down on the ground units.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 18 2011 08:03 GMT
#850
Looks cool
Probably an SC2 remake of the Corsair or a new harass unit.
Levi
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany45 Posts
October 18 2011 08:03 GMT
#851
looks like a guardien with plasma bombs xD
CalumXD
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom9 Posts
October 18 2011 08:04 GMT
#852
Air reaver?
eteran
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany83 Posts
October 18 2011 08:06 GMT
#853
Its a Zealot catapult obv.
blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
October 18 2011 08:08 GMT
#854
On October 18 2011 16:27 Brett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 16:21 caradoc wrote:
On October 18 2011 16:18 Brett wrote:
My first reaction was to get angry since had assumed some sort of ground unit would be incoming given how fleshed out the protoss stargate tech is.

But having mulled on this during the day, I think it COULD be quite an elegant solution.

I assume that Blizz will not touch the warp mechanic (under some delusion that it's just too "cool" to let it go) and thus gateway units will remain mediocre for anything other than some form of X Gate timing attack.. I also assume blizzard will want to address their comments that they want to give protoss an active harass type unit.

Given the above, and the design shown for this unit, I predict this being some form of average-to-fast speed, low-to-average HP flying unit which does short-range, AOE electrical damage from air to ground only. The attack could possibly take the form of a short-ranged frontal cone and would probably have a somewhat low rate of fire. I would expect the damage to be relatively low, but possibly receive bonus dmg to light. If the unit received bonus damage, it could be expected that blizzard would limit the number of targets the unit would hit (ie it would shoot out a limited number of lightning bolts at a time which target the nearest unit, rather than hitting everything in the AOE like a Bling or Hellion). Thus the unit would be largely useless against high-hp, high armour units, largely useless in small numbers but good against low hp or low armour units like workers, marines, lings and sentries; essentially filling a role akin to the baneling and helion. I'd expect the cost to reflect the capabilities of such a unit and to limit the ability to produce them en masse, particularly from one base.

This type of unit would be quite capable in assisting protoss to base raid in much the same way that the hellion and baneling (drops) can, and also assist protoss to deal with mass low tier units which are extremely difficult to deal with as protoss before large numbers of collossus or storms are available (thus being good for those 1-1-1 and mass ling/bling type builds that have found favour at various times).

Anyway, I could be completely wrong or just wishing too hard, but if the unit fills that role, I would be very satisfied with protoss as a whole.


so a low range, protoss banshee that can't cloak?

wouldn't it evaporate vs. marines?

No. I'm saying something similar to a corsair that hits the ground. In low numbers, it would be useless, but get 4 or 5 of them target firing on a certain area, and clumps of 3-5 marines/workers/lings would disappear in one volley. Expand the count, and it simply rapes low numbers of clumped, low tier units/workers and requires other forms of AA to deal with (vikings or thors for example.... Christ we could see Mech in TvP again!)

Wouldn't Terran just make even more Vikings than before?
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
October 18 2011 08:10 GMT
#855
Lol... protoss got the batwing.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 18 2011 08:10 GMT
#856
On October 18 2011 17:08 blackbrrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 16:27 Brett wrote:
On October 18 2011 16:21 caradoc wrote:
On October 18 2011 16:18 Brett wrote:
My first reaction was to get angry since had assumed some sort of ground unit would be incoming given how fleshed out the protoss stargate tech is.

But having mulled on this during the day, I think it COULD be quite an elegant solution.

I assume that Blizz will not touch the warp mechanic (under some delusion that it's just too "cool" to let it go) and thus gateway units will remain mediocre for anything other than some form of X Gate timing attack.. I also assume blizzard will want to address their comments that they want to give protoss an active harass type unit.

Given the above, and the design shown for this unit, I predict this being some form of average-to-fast speed, low-to-average HP flying unit which does short-range, AOE electrical damage from air to ground only. The attack could possibly take the form of a short-ranged frontal cone and would probably have a somewhat low rate of fire. I would expect the damage to be relatively low, but possibly receive bonus dmg to light. If the unit received bonus damage, it could be expected that blizzard would limit the number of targets the unit would hit (ie it would shoot out a limited number of lightning bolts at a time which target the nearest unit, rather than hitting everything in the AOE like a Bling or Hellion). Thus the unit would be largely useless against high-hp, high armour units, largely useless in small numbers but good against low hp or low armour units like workers, marines, lings and sentries; essentially filling a role akin to the baneling and helion. I'd expect the cost to reflect the capabilities of such a unit and to limit the ability to produce them en masse, particularly from one base.

This type of unit would be quite capable in assisting protoss to base raid in much the same way that the hellion and baneling (drops) can, and also assist protoss to deal with mass low tier units which are extremely difficult to deal with as protoss before large numbers of collossus or storms are available (thus being good for those 1-1-1 and mass ling/bling type builds that have found favour at various times).

Anyway, I could be completely wrong or just wishing too hard, but if the unit fills that role, I would be very satisfied with protoss as a whole.


so a low range, protoss banshee that can't cloak?

wouldn't it evaporate vs. marines?

No. I'm saying something similar to a corsair that hits the ground. In low numbers, it would be useless, but get 4 or 5 of them target firing on a certain area, and clumps of 3-5 marines/workers/lings would disappear in one volley. Expand the count, and it simply rapes low numbers of clumped, low tier units/workers and requires other forms of AA to deal with (vikings or thors for example.... Christ we could see Mech in TvP again!)

Wouldn't Terran just make even more Vikings than before?

Vikings aren't really the speediest aircraft in the game, so if the new Protoss unit is fast enough, it should be able to slip past or escape from Viking fleets with minimal damage. Plus, Vikings aren't really very good units to have in the event of a massive tech switch to a ground-based army.
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Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
October 18 2011 08:11 GMT
#857
air unit that can build gateway units in midflight that drop to the ground when completed
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
October 18 2011 08:12 GMT
#858
Did not know protoss worked for batman,,
ponyo.848
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3690 Posts
October 18 2011 08:13 GMT
#859
More air shit, makes me sad face.
IVN
Profile Joined October 2010
534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 08:15:43
October 18 2011 08:15 GMT
#860
People just dont get it. Its not a corsair nor a reaver, nor a protoss MULE.


Its a protoss SCOURGE with splash damage suicide (like a flying baneling!), for fucking up mass vikings, corrupters and mass mutas.

PvX will look like this in HotS: I make colossus, you make vikings/corrupters, I counter with protoss SCOURGE and you GG.
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