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Zarjax
Profile Joined September 2010
United States44 Posts
October 18 2011 07:30 GMT
#821
Enjoy information of the new units guys

"We just created it. It's rather gimmicky, but we felt protoss didn't have enough harass."

"It's a "void infuser". It basically supercharges one unit for 10 seconds and doubles the attack power/attack speed. It's like a protoss medivac, minus the healing, that gives it's own version of stim to any protoss unit."

"Also, while I'm here, I might as well reveal the other units. The zerg unit revealed is a "Techalisk" which is a lurker-esque creature that absorbed a science vessel onto it's back. It can irradiate Terran and protoss organic units, generate an organic force field around other units, and spew a gunk which is like a bio stasis on casters. It'll cost at least 300 gas, since it's such a good unit. We're working on it though."

"The Terran unit is a reworked reaper. Our devs said we needed to work the reaper over and this was the best solution. He's now a "Greaper" which you could consider as an improved reaper. He retains his ability to climb up cliffs, but now he gets a combat shield+dual rifles like marines and the old reaper, but he can switch between that and a hellion like flame thrower for splash. It's basically a unit that can change it's attack method. We prefer to think of it like a siege tank."
teh_longinator
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada725 Posts
October 18 2011 07:31 GMT
#822
I'm definitely calling it a Corsair!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
October 18 2011 07:31 GMT
#823
On October 18 2011 16:21 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
The design is too smooth for it to be a ground unit. Protoss ground units are kind of clunky. Also, normal toss units are very smooth and have curved, rounded protuberances. The spikes on this-un suggest Dark templar stylings. A stealth aircraft could be really cool for toss, as could an air caster.

Looking forward to it. Hopefully it will provide a bridging element that will encourage carriers to come out alongside them


FINALLY, a flying dt! Oh the dreams I've had.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
October 18 2011 07:32 GMT
#824
no idea what this unit will be like, but the unit design is downright awful. Where does the good design go if not in these new units? they seemed to do a great job with infestor and sentry come on!
To change is to improve, to change often is to be perfect - Winston Chruchill
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
October 18 2011 07:33 GMT
#825
On October 18 2011 16:30 Zarjax wrote:
Enjoy information of the new units guys

"We just created it. It's rather gimmicky, but we felt protoss didn't have enough harass."

"It's a "void infuser". It basically supercharges one unit for 10 seconds and doubles the attack power/attack speed. It's like a protoss medivac, minus the healing, that gives it's own version of stim to any protoss unit."

"Also, while I'm here, I might as well reveal the other units. The zerg unit revealed is a "Techalisk" which is a lurker-esque creature that absorbed a science vessel onto it's back. It can irradiate Terran and protoss organic units, generate an organic force field around other units, and spew a gunk which is like a bio stasis on casters. It'll cost at least 300 gas, since it's such a good unit. We're working on it though."

"The Terran unit is a reworked reaper. Our devs said we needed to work the reaper over and this was the best solution. He's now a "Greaper" which you could consider as an improved reaper. He retains his ability to climb up cliffs, but now he gets a combat shield+dual rifles like marines and the old reaper, but he can switch between that and a hellion like flame thrower for splash. It's basically a unit that can change it's attack method. We prefer to think of it like a siege tank."

is this confirmed information?
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
October 18 2011 07:35 GMT
#826
The unit looks small so I think it is some kind of unit used to harass.

It probably has some spell casting ability used for harassing.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
October 18 2011 07:36 GMT
#827
On October 18 2011 16:33 Tofugrinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 16:30 Zarjax wrote:
Enjoy information of the new units guys

"We just created it. It's rather gimmicky, but we felt protoss didn't have enough harass."

"It's a "void infuser". It basically supercharges one unit for 10 seconds and doubles the attack power/attack speed. It's like a protoss medivac, minus the healing, that gives it's own version of stim to any protoss unit."

"Also, while I'm here, I might as well reveal the other units. The zerg unit revealed is a "Techalisk" which is a lurker-esque creature that absorbed a science vessel onto it's back. It can irradiate Terran and protoss organic units, generate an organic force field around other units, and spew a gunk which is like a bio stasis on casters. It'll cost at least 300 gas, since it's such a good unit. We're working on it though."

"The Terran unit is a reworked reaper. Our devs said we needed to work the reaper over and this was the best solution. He's now a "Greaper" which you could consider as an improved reaper. He retains his ability to climb up cliffs, but now he gets a combat shield+dual rifles like marines and the old reaper, but he can switch between that and a hellion like flame thrower for splash. It's basically a unit that can change it's attack method. We prefer to think of it like a siege tank."

is this confirmed information?


Of course it isn't. It is pure speculation.

Blizzcon will tell.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 07:37:37
October 18 2011 07:36 GMT
#828
On October 18 2011 16:30 Zarjax wrote:
Enjoy information of the new units guys

"We just created it. It's rather gimmicky, but we felt protoss didn't have enough harass."

"It's a "void infuser". It basically supercharges one unit for 10 seconds and doubles the attack power/attack speed. It's like a protoss medivac, minus the healing, that gives it's own version of stim to any protoss unit."

"Also, while I'm here, I might as well reveal the other units. The zerg unit revealed is a "Techalisk" which is a lurker-esque creature that absorbed a science vessel onto it's back. It can irradiate Terran and protoss organic units, generate an organic force field around other units, and spew a gunk which is like a bio stasis on casters. It'll cost at least 300 gas, since it's such a good unit. We're working on it though."

"The Terran unit is a reworked reaper. Our devs said we needed to work the reaper over and this was the best solution. He's now a "Greaper" which you could consider as an improved reaper. He retains his ability to climb up cliffs, but now he gets a combat shield+dual rifles like marines and the old reaper, but he can switch between that and a hellion like flame thrower for splash. It's basically a unit that can change it's attack method. We prefer to think of it like a siege tank."

I really wish people would post links when posting such incredible information :/. The unit names sound a bit bad though. I don't think Blizzard would give them those names.

EDIT: I got to the Greaper part, and yeah, it sounds totally made up. Surely not from Blizz. At least imo.
blazingblue16
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada41 Posts
October 18 2011 07:39 GMT
#829
It's called super troll. also I hope this isn't some second voidray .
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
October 18 2011 07:39 GMT
#830
On October 18 2011 16:29 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 16:27 Brett wrote:
On October 18 2011 16:21 caradoc wrote:
On October 18 2011 16:18 Brett wrote:
My first reaction was to get angry since had assumed some sort of ground unit would be incoming given how fleshed out the protoss stargate tech is.

But having mulled on this during the day, I think it COULD be quite an elegant solution.

I assume that Blizz will not touch the warp mechanic (under some delusion that it's just too "cool" to let it go) and thus gateway units will remain mediocre for anything other than some form of X Gate timing attack.. I also assume blizzard will want to address their comments that they want to give protoss an active harass type unit.

Given the above, and the design shown for this unit, I predict this being some form of average-to-fast speed, low-to-average HP flying unit which does short-range, AOE electrical damage from air to ground only. The attack could possibly take the form of a short-ranged frontal cone and would probably have a somewhat low rate of fire. I would expect the damage to be relatively low, but possibly receive bonus dmg to light. If the unit received bonus damage, it could be expected that blizzard would limit the number of targets the unit would hit (ie it would shoot out a limited number of lightning bolts at a time which target the nearest unit, rather than hitting everything in the AOE like a Bling or Hellion). Thus the unit would be largely useless against high-hp, high armour units, largely useless in small numbers but good against low hp or low armour units like workers, marines, lings and sentries; essentially filling a role akin to the baneling and helion. I'd expect the cost to reflect the capabilities of such a unit and to limit the ability to produce them en masse, particularly from one base.

This type of unit would be quite capable in assisting protoss to base raid in much the same way that the hellion and baneling (drops) can, and also assist protoss to deal with mass low tier units which are extremely difficult to deal with as protoss before large numbers of collossus or storms are available (thus being good for those 1-1-1 and mass ling/bling type builds that have found favour at various times).

Anyway, I could be completely wrong or just wishing too hard, but if the unit fills that role, I would be very satisfied with protoss as a whole.


so a low range, protoss banshee that can't cloak?

wouldn't it evaporate vs. marines?

No. I'm saying something similar to a corsair that hits the ground. In low numbers, it would be useless, but get 4 or 5 of them target firing on a certain area, and clumps of 3-5 marines/workers/lings would disappear in one volley. Expand the count, and it simply rapes low numbers of clumped, low tier units/workers and requires other forms of AA to deal with (vikings or thors for example.... Christ we could see Mech in TvP again!)

Although I'm a Sad Zealot, even I will admit that this sounds a bit too powerful o-o. I'm probably seeing it differently than you though. ;o

Like I said, I would be assuming a low rate of fire (as the electricity charges up again perhaps). So you couldnt fly in and rape entire worker lines or HIGH number low-tier armies in 2 seconds. A low rate of fire could ensure:
1. Workers can run to a degree, you have time to scramble something to deal with the attackers.
2. High numbers of marines could simply fight back with their own sick DPS and spreading.
3. Lings can just run away.
4. Hydras: fight back, same as marine.
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
October 18 2011 07:41 GMT
#831
On October 18 2011 16:39 blazingblue16 wrote:
It's called super troll. also I hope this isn't some second voidray .

Indeed ^^.

I'm kind of psyched for this, I eagerly await blizzcon now, gonna be really interesting.
Mada Mada Dane
SkyNeTT
Profile Joined October 2011
Ukraine1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 07:55:23
October 18 2011 07:41 GMT
#832
I know what it is - its Tassadars' magic pan

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zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 20:50:50
October 18 2011 07:42 GMT
#833
To those who thinks its gonna be a spellcaster.... toss already has 3 spell casters: mothership, sentry + ht. Terran has ghost & raven. Zerg has infestor. See the balance there?
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Kudoku
Profile Joined December 2010
United States68 Posts
October 18 2011 07:45 GMT
#834
it's a harrass unit.
The only true failure... is accepting failure.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 18 2011 07:45 GMT
#835
On October 18 2011 16:30 Zarjax wrote:
Enjoy information of the new units guys

"We just created it. It's rather gimmicky, but we felt protoss didn't have enough harass."

"It's a "void infuser". It basically supercharges one unit for 10 seconds and doubles the attack power/attack speed. It's like a protoss medivac, minus the healing, that gives it's own version of stim to any protoss unit."

"Also, while I'm here, I might as well reveal the other units. The zerg unit revealed is a "Techalisk" which is a lurker-esque creature that absorbed a science vessel onto it's back. It can irradiate Terran and protoss organic units, generate an organic force field around other units, and spew a gunk which is like a bio stasis on casters. It'll cost at least 300 gas, since it's such a good unit. We're working on it though."

"The Terran unit is a reworked reaper. Our devs said we needed to work the reaper over and this was the best solution. He's now a "Greaper" which you could consider as an improved reaper. He retains his ability to climb up cliffs, but now he gets a combat shield+dual rifles like marines and the old reaper, but he can switch between that and a hellion like flame thrower for splash. It's basically a unit that can change it's attack method. We prefer to think of it like a siege tank."


Pure gold. Thanks for making my morning. hehehe that actually sounds like dustin browder's thought process.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
October 18 2011 07:45 GMT
#836
Protoss banshee you heard it here!
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
October 18 2011 07:46 GMT
#837
It kinda ressembles the Quake logo doesn't it?

Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
October 18 2011 07:46 GMT
#838
On October 18 2011 16:02 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 16:01 Toadvine wrote:
So it's a unit Protoss deserves, but not one it needs right now?

they aren't going to add new units a over a year into the game and roughly a year until the next installment of the game is out.


You totally missed the Dark Knight reference, lol.

My first instinct was Sentry replacement, but that was dumb.

So now it'll be the Phoenix replacement. Lift up into the center of the unit, friendly or otherwise, and possibly ferry a few steps or something strange. Interesting to think about. Not sure how it'll attack though.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Herper
Profile Joined January 2011
501 Posts
October 18 2011 07:46 GMT
#839
On October 18 2011 16:42 zeOllie wrote:
To those who thinks its gonna be a spellcaster.... toss already has 3 spell casters: mothership, sentry + ht. Terran has ghost. Zerg has infestor. See the balance there?

You forgot Raven
DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
October 18 2011 07:47 GMT
#840
On October 18 2011 16:42 zeOllie wrote:
To those who thinks its gonna be a spellcaster.... toss already has 3 spell casters: mothership, sentry + ht. Terran has ghost. Zerg has infestor. See the balance there?


terran has ghost and raven. zerg has infestor and queen.

this unit will be replacement for sentry.
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