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Bibzball
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 19:56:37
October 16 2011 19:56 GMT
#41
On October 17 2011 04:39 storm44 wrote:
I have to restart my stream after every match, don't know if bandwidth is the reason


That should be adblock. Do you have it off ?
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Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 19:59:51
October 16 2011 19:56 GMT
#42
I can confirm that this makes sense. I have been wondering all 3 days why in the quad view if I switch a stream back down to medium and another stream up to ultra then the streams freeze and I have to refresh. That the bandwidth isn't going back down is most likely why.

On another note MLG needs to increase the amount of outgoing bandwidth for the quad viewer. I know that my internet has more bandwidth than they require for 2 Ultra streams (speedtest.net says I have 100Mb/s) but I cannot actually load two ultra streams (which they say requires 6Mb/s.)
HellionDrop
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 20:09:09
October 16 2011 20:08 GMT
#43
MLG flash player is very buggy. if you switch quality or stream, then all the optional settings are rendered useless.
KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 20:11:48
October 16 2011 20:10 GMT
#44
An experiment I did:

Load viewer, defaults to medium resolution.
Switch to ultra.
In windows Resource Monitor, TCP Connections, I found two chrome processes both talking to the same remote address. One taking ~370kbps, one taking ~150kpbs(? - didn't write this down so from memory).
Opened windows firewall and created a custom rule to block the medium resolution stream by the local port that it was connected to.

This worked, but I haven't reloaded the browser. I fear the local ports used will be randomish, so you would have to remake these rules every time you switch around.

ETA: Is there a network GUI for windows that you can look at the TCP connections like in Resource Monitor, and block connections just by clicking them?
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StavrosHL
Profile Joined December 2010
Greece128 Posts
October 16 2011 20:37 GMT
#45
never ever gonna buy again gold or silver membership. Cannot watch a single stream on High or Ultra quality. when trying to switch quality it just keeps loading FOREVER with all browsers and with 7mbit DL. no more mlg memberships for me. they even ignored my last nights support question. Unprofessionals on that section ( as we can remember from the first mlg ) as always.
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
October 16 2011 20:42 GMT
#46
On October 17 2011 05:37 StavrosHL wrote:
never ever gonna buy again gold or silver membership. Cannot watch a single stream on High or Ultra quality. when trying to switch quality it just keeps loading FOREVER with all browsers and with 7mbit DL. no more mlg memberships for me. they even ignored my last nights support question. Unprofessionals on that section ( as we can remember from the first mlg ) as always.


use the quad view. Press refresh every time. Works great for me, sorry your internet sucks.
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
October 16 2011 21:00 GMT
#47
I think i speak on behalf of all my fellow australians when i say this is a bullshit situation and needs to be looked at asafp.

for any who dont know, australian internet is capped to a certain limit every month, meaning that u pay x amount of dollars a month for x amount of GB data. once x amount of bandwidth is consumed, internet speed is shaped down (to around 64 kbps) until the next month when it is refreshed again.


so to top that off with the fact that an aussie who wants to watch mlg live has to be awake between 12am and 8am to watch. Id say we have an issue at hand
Not_That
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
October 16 2011 21:21 GMT
#48
I've been unable to watch MLG entirely. I opened the stream (default medium), it lagged. Switched to low, still lagged. Turned it off. This happened on at least 2 occasions. This would explain it I suppose.
jarf1337
Profile Joined July 2010
United States146 Posts
October 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#49
This would explain why their player on the website breaks when I switch, but works really well on TL's page.
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Fealthas
Profile Joined May 2011
607 Posts
October 16 2011 21:47 GMT
#50
This explains why my computer slows down after a while of switching streams and resolutions. THX!
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
October 16 2011 21:51 GMT
#51
MLG's streams consumes way too much bandwidth in general. I can watch the NASL at 1080p lag free. But if I load up ULTRA on just one stream, it lags for the MLG.

"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
phuzi0n
Profile Joined April 2010
United States308 Posts
October 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#52
Yeah I noticed this too, changing stream quality still sends the previous quality and the new quality which is especially problematic on quad view where I want to watch one in high quality and the other less important streams on medium.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 16 2011 21:59 GMT
#53
On October 17 2011 06:51 echO [W] wrote:
MLG's streams consumes way too much bandwidth in general. I can watch the NASL at 1080p lag free. But if I load up ULTRA on just one stream, it lags for the MLG.



Yeah I think the streams take bandwidth even when paused so I can only watch ultra with only one tab open without lag.
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Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
October 16 2011 22:01 GMT
#54
MLG uses WAY to much bitrate for their stream which seems to be at a 480p resolution. And to call it "Ultra" is just ... -_-

Give sharpness of 720p/1080p with same bitrate please and have something at least to justify the possible lag.
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
October 16 2011 22:02 GMT
#55
hmmm, seems to explain my lag.
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Delinius
Profile Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
October 16 2011 22:04 GMT
#56
Seems to have been fixed switching to Chrome, but still notice lag spikes but not as often.
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
October 16 2011 22:05 GMT
#57
Interesting, I guess that's why my Firefox has consumed 11GB of bandwidth since 3pm today then?
Although, having the stream on Ultra for 8hours straight was probably not the best idea
"Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know." - Liquid`Jinro
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
October 16 2011 22:09 GMT
#58
I msged MLG_Lee about this yesterday and got a response, they are aware of it.

Basically their stream has a really high bitrate but they are using a spatial soften that is destroying the image quality on the RED and BLUE streams. It is not set as high / Not present on the white and black streams if you look at them in ultra.

And as far as the wasted bandwidth goes. I think when you open the player and it defaults to medium quality, then change it to a different settings the player keeps buffering the medium quality as if you were watching a vod. You'll notice this happen if you rewind as well.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=259689

I posted about this but since got no reply I thought it maybe was an isolated issue with my router or firewall.
VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
October 16 2011 22:15 GMT
#59
Someone tell r1ch!
Why?
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#60
Quad view in Firefox with all four on medium doesn't lag much, any other setup lags every few seconds.

Don't get it at all.
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