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We are currently talking about this issue in the mod forum. We take this issue very seriously, and want to find the best way to serve those who want faster results, and those that don't wish to be spoiled.
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
November 20 2011 03:20 GMT
#861
Whenever I miss a game and don't want it to be spoiled, I avoid TL and any other SC2 news site until I watch it. The same thing happens when I DVR Breaking Bad or something. I just don't go to any Breaking Bad discussion sites.

Is it killing eSports? Not really, but it would be nice to see champion pictures on the TL news page.
"If you really don't give a shit what brand you chew, chew Stride." - Liquid'Tyler. Gives shoutouts like a boss.
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
November 20 2011 03:30 GMT
#862
Just make that option to toggle whether you want spoiler tags for results for your profile.
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
November 20 2011 04:07 GMT
#863
keep in mind this is an international community so not everyone is able to watch games live
im gay
clever_us
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States329 Posts
November 20 2011 04:13 GMT
#864
I'm really surprised at the direction in which this poll is going! I've always thought the spoilers were kinda silly but I thought the majority of people would hate all over me if I said anything -__- Good to know I'm not the only one! I don't have time to watch all the tourneys and I find it frustrating that I can't just switch over to TL to see "I wonder who won last night?"
glhf <3
Bonkarooni
Profile Joined October 2010
United States383 Posts
November 20 2011 04:13 GMT
#865
I read the threads about the GSL games when I am at work during the day, then come home and watch the Vods at night. x.x makes me sad when something gets spoiled. Not a huge deal either way though
exarchrum
Profile Joined August 2010
United States491 Posts
November 20 2011 04:15 GMT
#866
I agree with the OP. When I watch a sport like baseball on TV I always like to read the ESPN story about it. Occasionally I will record a sporting event that I know I can't watch, but I will avoid all use of the internet to avoid spoilers. For instance during the FIFA world cup my dad and I brain stormed places to eat lunch that didn't have TVs so we wouldn't be spoiled from the match results.

I think people who want to avoid spoilers should take this approach. If you to experience the "live event feel" several hours later, you should not be browsing the internet. I think creating a spoiler free version should be enough to appease those who really don't want to get spoiled. But for those who want to know the result, there should be a headline to match the magnitude of the event.
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
November 20 2011 04:17 GMT
#867
On November 20 2011 13:13 clever_us wrote:
I'm really surprised at the direction in which this poll is going! I've always thought the spoilers were kinda silly but I thought the majority of people would hate all over me if I said anything -__- Good to know I'm not the only one! I don't have time to watch all the tourneys and I find it frustrating that I can't just switch over to TL to see "I wonder who won last night?"

You can. I don't see the need for any change. If you want to find the results, you go on TL, find the LR thread for the event and there it is, or the Recent Tournament Results page on Liquipedia, etc. There's the live scoreboard type stuff that sites like ESFIworld have, but for TL I don't see the need for any change. People shouldn't have to be spoiled if they're just on their way to the strategy section or something. Apparently I'm the minority for thinking this, maybe it's different for me because I'm not in the time zone that most people are hence I can't catch a lot of stuff live, but people need to understand that for some people, knowing the result kills the enjoyment of watching the event and making it an extra click for the majority to make things great for the minority really doesn't seem like much of a sacrifice.
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
November 20 2011 04:18 GMT
#868
Completely agree with OP. If you don't want to be spoiled, then don't click the fucking thread that would say something like "IPL3 Winner Announcement!" and post a response complaining about how you got spoiled. In the first place, TL is a place for discussion and congregation for SC fans. Discussing the results of tournaments is what TL is for. Now if you don't want to be spoiled before watching something, then STAY OFF TL UNTIL YOU FINISH. How hard is that?
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
November 20 2011 04:21 GMT
#869
On November 20 2011 13:17 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 13:13 clever_us wrote:
I'm really surprised at the direction in which this poll is going! I've always thought the spoilers were kinda silly but I thought the majority of people would hate all over me if I said anything -__- Good to know I'm not the only one! I don't have time to watch all the tourneys and I find it frustrating that I can't just switch over to TL to see "I wonder who won last night?"

You can. I don't see the need for any change. If you want to find the results, you go on TL, find the LR thread for the event and there it is, or the Recent Tournament Results page on Liquipedia, etc. There's the live scoreboard type stuff that sites like ESFIworld have, but for TL I don't see the need for any change. People shouldn't have to be spoiled if they're just on their way to the strategy section or something. Apparently I'm the minority for thinking this, maybe it's different for me because I'm not in the time zone that most people are hence I can't catch a lot of stuff live, but people need to understand that for some people, knowing the result kills the enjoyment of watching the event and making it an extra click for the majority to make things great for the minority really doesn't seem like much of a sacrifice.

if you can't watch it live just don't visit the site for 24 hours, it's really not a huge deal.
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NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
November 20 2011 04:23 GMT
#870
On November 20 2011 13:07 whatusername wrote:
keep in mind this is an international community so not everyone is able to watch games live


So is the FIFA World Cup, the Olympics, etc. Guess what? All those results are front page news on every website as soon as they happen. People need to quit whining about match results being spoiled.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
November 20 2011 06:35 GMT
#871

I'm from a different timezone to most tournaments and usually can't watch live; I also often can't watch GSL live due to the poor connection from Korea to my particular ISP in Australia.

Having said that I hate the whole spoiler bullshit, as long as I can bookmark a link to spoiler free VODs I'm totally fine with TL publishing results on the front page, and I think it's a great idea.



Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 06:41:35
November 20 2011 06:40 GMT
#872
On November 20 2011 13:21 Vei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 13:17 Ruscour wrote:
On November 20 2011 13:13 clever_us wrote:
I'm really surprised at the direction in which this poll is going! I've always thought the spoilers were kinda silly but I thought the majority of people would hate all over me if I said anything -__- Good to know I'm not the only one! I don't have time to watch all the tourneys and I find it frustrating that I can't just switch over to TL to see "I wonder who won last night?"

You can. I don't see the need for any change. If you want to find the results, you go on TL, find the LR thread for the event and there it is, or the Recent Tournament Results page on Liquipedia, etc. There's the live scoreboard type stuff that sites like ESFIworld have, but for TL I don't see the need for any change. People shouldn't have to be spoiled if they're just on their way to the strategy section or something. Apparently I'm the minority for thinking this, maybe it's different for me because I'm not in the time zone that most people are hence I can't catch a lot of stuff live, but people need to understand that for some people, knowing the result kills the enjoyment of watching the event and making it an extra click for the majority to make things great for the minority really doesn't seem like much of a sacrifice.

if you can't watch it live just don't visit the site for 24 hours, it's really not a huge deal.


Or... if you want to know the results or discuss them, go to the tournament's thread. It's a much smaller deal. We already got TL pro so I don't know why it's even an issue.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
lawls544
Profile Joined April 2011
United States36 Posts
November 20 2011 06:44 GMT
#873
With the recent teamliquid.net sidebar upgrades, I'm sure it would be feasible to give the users the option between a live-results homepage and a "spoiler-free" version.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 06:48:54
November 20 2011 06:46 GMT
#874
If you want spoiler'd results, just go to GosuGamers.net

I'm sure there are other sites that are similar... so I'm fine with TL being different not having immediate results on front page.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 06:53:59
November 20 2011 06:53 GMT
#875
Click on LR thread -> scroll down to results section in 1st post -> click 'show spoiler'

There. Was that so hard?
oldfartz
Profile Joined October 2011
Philippines117 Posts
November 20 2011 06:57 GMT
#876
threads like this is hurting E-sports imo
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
November 20 2011 07:05 GMT
#877
On November 20 2011 15:57 oldfartz wrote:
threads like this is hurting E-sports imo


posts like yours hurts esports
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
November 20 2011 07:08 GMT
#878
On November 20 2011 13:23 NEOtheONE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 13:07 whatusername wrote:
keep in mind this is an international community so not everyone is able to watch games live


So is the FIFA World Cup, the Olympics, etc. Guess what? All those results are front page news on every website as soon as they happen. People need to quit whining about match results being spoiled.


People are selfish, that's why, and feel entitled to their fun not being "spoiled." Seriously grow up kids. I would blast my brains if I had to go through this spoiler crap in regards to athletic sports.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
November 20 2011 07:08 GMT
#879
On November 20 2011 16:05 storm44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 15:57 oldfartz wrote:
threads like this is hurting E-sports imo


posts like yours hurts esports


esports is on anesthetics, its ok.
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Sachem
Profile Joined May 2011
United States116 Posts
November 20 2011 07:16 GMT
#880
I sort of do miss the celebratory aspect from regular sports... There's definitely something to saying "oh hell yes, my favorite player/team/etc won" without having seen the matches.

That said, I totally understand not wanting matches to be spoiled.

Maybe use TLPro/other teams similar websites to celebrate? At least for TL themselves, this solves the problem, as that part of the website has massive spoilers anyway what with the twitter feeds and other "live" elements. Other teams with less used websites might have some significant troubles getting the news out however, but linking to them in spoilers tags never hurts.
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