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FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
October 11 2011 11:05 GMT
#181
I like PainUser as a caster, obviously his knowledge is top notch. TBH, you made me mute the stream at one point and I was never really able to enjoy the games as I would've with any other caster.

Maybe it's just me but I find your humor really unfunny.
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MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 11:08:14
October 11 2011 11:06 GMT
#182
In my opinion you shouldnt try to hype up games that are allready pretty much decided. Especially you are doing this a so often. That being said thats what most Casters actually do besides from Tastosis/Wolf/d.Apollo and its quite annoying tbh.
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
October 11 2011 11:07 GMT
#183
Well... you were alright I guess. Nothing special.
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John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
October 11 2011 11:10 GMT
#184
Painuser looks like a total bro
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CreatureSC2
Profile Joined July 2010
United States156 Posts
October 11 2011 11:10 GMT
#185
What the hell is wrong with people? The casting was perfectly fine! How is it only 54% yes? People are really spoiled. Would all the people that said "No" rather have no casting at all?
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
October 11 2011 11:15 GMT
#186
On October 11 2011 20:10 TheCreature wrote:
What the hell is wrong with people? The casting was perfectly fine! How is it only 54% yes? People are really spoiled. Would all the people that said "No" rather have no casting at all?

What is the Poll for then? I'm pretty sure if there would have been an option 'I'd rather have no casting at all' added to the other two options only some Trolls would choose it. He was asking for feedback and we provided.
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Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
October 11 2011 11:16 GMT
#187
Probably repeating what most of the people in this thread said. Painuser is perfectly fine. You on the other hand suffer from the same problem Husky suffered in the past, but he got over it and improved a lot, really. So it would not hurt to focus on improving your game knowledge and awareness of the things going on while casting. Maybe also work on some jokes and there have been a lot of situations, where the what we saw in the games were different from what you told us.

I'm sure you can do it, just like husky, who is not that bad anymore.
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ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 11:19:30
October 11 2011 11:18 GMT
#188
I personally loved to see u guys Cast because i kinda got used to the HDPain combo, when i watch IPL i expect to see u guys and i kinda consider u "e-friends" for being there all the time and bring me alot of great moments

Pain ofc he performed well because he is one of the Pro players even if he didn't have "nestea results". Being in the pro field means that u have a good sense of the game.

@HD ..altho alot of ppl can complain the lack of knowledge i can only say congrats on stepping up your game. I saw u 2 cast since the begining of IPL, and i have seen u progress and i love it because i kinda see in u myself..how i progressed in time and never gave up trying my best to get as much out of this game as i can. Is there room for improvement? Ofc it is....this game requires constant improvement not just for the players but for casters as well.

My personal opinion is just stick with the flow, listen to Pain's advice and even just listen to him in general, and i am 100% sure u will progress even more.

Again....it's always a pleasure listening to u guys, u guys are awesome!
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CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
October 11 2011 11:18 GMT
#189
Just keep gminimap awareness.
eoLithic
Profile Joined July 2010
Norway221 Posts
October 11 2011 11:21 GMT
#190
I think HD have calmed down alot with his talk, which is something alot of people can learn from.

You tended to over-do the play-by-play commentary, but it has gotten alot better. Painuser is to me, the best type of casters. CHill laid back, semi-stoned pro player that just lays down the knowledge carpet(woah?!) over a match, really simple and straight forward.

Compared to apollo and catspyjamas for instance, your cast is alot more laid back and less try-hard imo. Gets really tiring listening to cats and apollo talking about all kinds of little things going on till they`re blue in their face and screaming at pretty much anything that moves.

Looking forward to seeing you and painuser cast alot of events in the future!
"You`re a pro or you`re a noob...that`s life"
Chillton
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada85 Posts
October 11 2011 11:24 GMT
#191
PainUser, stop using words that you have no idea what they mean
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Ballack
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway821 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 11:27:22
October 11 2011 11:26 GMT
#192
I think you did fine, and have definetely improved the last couple of months. Sometimes when you start analyzing high-level stuff HD, you end up with the wrong conclusion or whatever a bit too often I think. Perhaps just try to zone in the fact that you are a play-by-play caster and PainUser is the analysist. Not at all saying you shouldn't analyze at all, but make sure what you're saying is at least 90% true

Oh and PainUser needs to reduce his amount of "I mean" by about 80%.
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Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 11:29:00
October 11 2011 11:28 GMT
#193
First of all, I've enjoyed IPL tremendously, and congratz to you and the whole IPL crew in making it happen.

Secondly,both you (HD) and Painuser need to be more aware of your limitations. Not having perfect game knowledge doesn't have to be a problem, it becomes a problem only when you make predictions and are constantly proven wrong. More knowledge can't hurt, but no caster is able to perfectly predict all games, so don't even try to. And get a dedicated observer for big tournaments.
SnuggleZhenya
Profile Joined July 2010
596 Posts
October 11 2011 11:28 GMT
#194
It was fine, but not my favorite of the tournament (I liked Cats/Doa quite a lot which was unexpected). Anyway, I'd say the biggest constructive criticism I could give is to stay up on the meta game a bit more HD. It seems like since you've been playing less and working at IGN your knowledge of the game has stagnated a bit and isn't quite up with the times, I assume because you aren't on the ladder as often seeing new builds, and sometimes your calls seem a little outdated. E.g. - "Wow, this is really a strange opening here from X" when in fact its been a really standard opening over the last few weeks/month.

Anyway, no major concerns that would stop me from watching, but there is always room for improvement.
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Imalengrat
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia365 Posts
October 11 2011 11:29 GMT
#195
Awesome Job!
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CallmeMuppet
Profile Joined May 2010
Ireland176 Posts
October 11 2011 11:30 GMT
#196
I kinda liked the casting, enjoyed online qualifier as well but ffs stop saying: "I couldn't agree with you more" or "I totally agree with you" everytime the commentator switches... pretty please with sugar on top.
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
October 11 2011 11:32 GMT
#197
I think that you're improving steadily as a combo. However, there were many times that both of you seemed to ignore the supply count and I was looking at the minimap and supply more than I wanted to / should have to.

Thank you for a great tournament.
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BinxyBrown
Profile Joined December 2010
United States230 Posts
October 11 2011 11:32 GMT
#198
The casting was very well done, I had a great time listening to it.
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Beece
Profile Joined May 2010
United States62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 11:39:23
October 11 2011 11:36 GMT
#199
I like the tastosis approach, they make accurate predictions about what is going to unfold in the game rather than tell me where the first probe harass is going and what its doing. It is appropriate to commentate on whats going on, but it's also important to have substantial knowledge of the game so you can make these predictions and actually be correct.

I fear, HD, that you do not have that knowledge. I do like your voice though :D

(despite all this, you guys did do pretty well together! I would just say work on learning more about the game so you are more prepared next time.)
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Klyberess
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden345 Posts
October 11 2011 11:36 GMT
#200
The problem with HD is that he is not very good at either of the two typical roles (play-by-play and analytical). I guess to improve he could either stop making predictions (he doesn't understand the game well enough) and focus on actually being exciting/funny, or he could make an effort to actually learn more about the game.

Painuser is pretty solid, he's obviously not a caster to 100% but his analysis is usually spot on.
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