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royal.cze
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada287 Posts
October 04 2011 18:04 GMT
#221
so did cruncher do anything besides you know beating idra that one time in the tsl ?
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
October 04 2011 18:05 GMT
#222
On October 05 2011 03:04 royal.cze wrote:
so did cruncher do anything besides you know beating idra that one time in the tsl ?

He's beaten plenty of players way better than Idra.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
AutomatonOmega
Profile Joined February 2011
United States706 Posts
October 04 2011 18:06 GMT
#223
The whole thing comes down to Cruncher having relied on playing abusively and turtling up on 3 bases in a sim city while waiting for 3/3/3 200/200 and steamrolling. If he'd explored the game and put in the work to be legitimately good like Hasu he'd still be in the scene and still thriving.

He never outgrew the 'bag of tricks' phase in his pro-gaming, and this is the end result.
royal.cze
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada287 Posts
October 04 2011 18:08 GMT
#224
On October 05 2011 03:05 iamke55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 03:04 royal.cze wrote:
so did cruncher do anything besides you know beating idra that one time in the tsl ?

He's beaten plenty of players way better than Idra.


So Crunchers been beating Koreans ? I must have missed it.
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
October 04 2011 18:10 GMT
#225
This thread should be closed.
There is no real contribution here, just Idras swarm creeping all over the place.

Good luck to Cruncher. It was a fun experience for him, i bet. But it's time to move on in life.
the game is the game
Underoath
Profile Joined May 2011
Peru113 Posts
October 04 2011 18:10 GMT
#226
Never liked the guy anyway. Imo, good riddance.
"More GG, more skill" - WhiteRa
monXikk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland742 Posts
October 04 2011 18:11 GMT
#227
On October 05 2011 03:04 royal.cze wrote:
so did cruncher do anything besides you know beating idra that one time in the tsl ?

nah, he had some success making to the pool play at MLG, he probably beat some notable players here and there but basically thats it.

Too bad for CoL, they lost their second best player.
Gl to Abdulaziz.
yet another IdrA's #1 fan
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 18:14:11
October 04 2011 18:12 GMT
#228
On October 05 2011 03:04 royal.cze wrote:
so did cruncher do anything besides you know beating idra that one time in the tsl ?


Made the MLG championship bracket every time he attended, mid-tabled NASL, won some NA cups.

Cruncher never set the world on fire with his performances, but behind Kiwi and TT1 he was definitely one of the best Protoss in NA.

This thread is fucking depressing me with how BM some people are about what's basically the retiment of a pretty strong NA player :/
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
October 04 2011 18:13 GMT
#229
On October 05 2011 03:08 royal.cze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 03:05 iamke55 wrote:
On October 05 2011 03:04 royal.cze wrote:
so did cruncher do anything besides you know beating idra that one time in the tsl ?

He's beaten plenty of players way better than Idra.


So Crunchers been beating Koreans ? I must have missed it.

Yeah you never really hear about it because in any tournament where you beat Koreans, the field is so tough that you just lose to another Korean and don't finish in the top 3.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 04 2011 18:13 GMT
#230
On October 05 2011 02:21 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 01:48 khaosis wrote:
If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Good luck to the rest of COL


I think it has more to do with the fact that any reasonable person would choose their college education over pro-gaming. A college graduate studying anything meaningful will have more financial security than 99.9% of pro-gamers. Not to mention its a reliable and easy to manage lifestyle.


if you are good enough at a game to play it for money, you have to take the shot. college will wait for you
royal.cze
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada287 Posts
October 04 2011 18:14 GMT
#231
On October 05 2011 03:11 monXikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 03:04 royal.cze wrote:
so did cruncher do anything besides you know beating idra that one time in the tsl ?

nah, he had some success making to the pool play at MLG, he probably beat some notable players here and there but basically thats it.

Too bad for CoL, they lost their second best player.
Gl to Abdulaziz.



Good call I remember that he did make it out of open play at one MLG right ? and went fairly deep in the loser championship bracket ?
AnalThermometer
Profile Joined February 2011
Vatican City State334 Posts
October 04 2011 18:16 GMT
#232
On October 05 2011 03:06 AutomatonOmega wrote:
The whole thing comes down to Cruncher having relied on playing abusively and turtling up on 3 bases in a sim city while waiting for 3/3/3 200/200 and steamrolling. If he'd explored the game and put in the work to be legitimately good like Hasu he'd still be in the scene and still thriving.

He never outgrew the 'bag of tricks' phase in his pro-gaming, and this is the end result.


Out of interest, could one of the Idra's fans explain to me what ISN'T classified as abusive play or relying on a bag of tricks? It seems if Cruncher 4gates, 6 gates, builds a Void Ray etc. that's abusive play which won't last long. Yet at the same time if you play extremely safe and turtle while building up your army that's also labelled as abusive play and some kind of trick. I AM CONFUSE.
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
October 04 2011 18:24 GMT
#233
I'll remember that smiley face
uSnAmplified
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1029 Posts
October 04 2011 18:26 GMT
#234
He had some solid tournament placements outside of TSL, they were just mostly small cups and he never really made it into any big finals, also some solid MLG placements just nothing extraordinary.

Can't say i was a fan of his play but gl in the future.
~
SySLeif
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
October 04 2011 18:40 GMT
#235
It happens, I'm glad he's making sure he is getting the most out of school though. You can't play SC2 for the rest of your life.
phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
October 04 2011 18:51 GMT
#236
what a surprise...
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
October 04 2011 18:52 GMT
#237
What school does he go to? Who else is still in school? Did Select graduate or does he have another year?
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 04 2011 18:54 GMT
#238
On October 05 2011 03:40 SySLeif wrote:
It happens, I'm glad he's making sure he is getting the most out of school though. You can't play SC2 for the rest of your life.


Yeah and its pretty impressive what he's done so far while being in school. His entire career up to this point has been while being a full-time student. He's probably just getting into the higher level, more difficult classes which take considerably more time. People seem to forget he was never the kind of person who put his whole life into SC2 or something. It was a hobby for him. Just because he made it as far and farther in tournaments than full-time pros, doesn't mean he was a full-time pro
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 04 2011 18:57 GMT
#239
On October 05 2011 03:08 royal.cze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 03:05 iamke55 wrote:
On October 05 2011 03:04 royal.cze wrote:
so did cruncher do anything besides you know beating idra that one time in the tsl ?

He's beaten plenty of players way better than Idra.


So Crunchers been beating Koreans ? I must have missed it.


He beat Boxer at MLG when Boxer ended up in 3rd place.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 19:01:20
October 04 2011 18:59 GMT
#240
I will forever miss Cruncher. WCR represent! I do hope he comes back one. He is a good player who I personally believe did not deserve to be a victim of hate from this community.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
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