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On September 25 2011 17:46 MonkSEA wrote:
It's a fight between Thorzain, Sen and HuK for #1.
But no Sheth?.. I mean come on. Why the fuck have you got Stephano on there when Sheth isn't? It just racks my brain. I'm sorry but doing well on the EU ladder and owning some Koreans, all online, doesn't mean jack shit. Only lans should be counted in terms of owning Koreans or we'll get Destiny Fanboys in here saying Destiny owned Bomber in the GSPA. Sheth owned his fair share of Koreans in the GSL alone to warrant a place over the little kid, Stephano.
You never watch a single game of stephano obviously..
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The 6% of people who voted idra haven't watched a game of starcraft 2 since 2010. I also always find it odd that polls like these never have an 'other' option: you're always going to miss out someone. Regardless i voted Thorzain, but it's a pretty tough vote between several players.
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Best protoss: MaNa
Best terran: ThorZaIN
Best zerg: MorroW
Best team: mouz
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When i read "best foreigner" i think this is a poll about who's the most skilled right now. Therefore it doesn't matter if a player did get good results on some lan events or not and everything that happened longer than 2 months ago shouldn't even be considered.
I think it's hard to tell, because you can't really compare Huk and Sen to the EU guys because they don't play against each other that often. My picks would be:
Huk/Mana for Protoss
Thorzain for Terran
Stephano for Zerg.
Those are the 4 best imo.
The list of players in the poll is fine except i'd replace Idra with Nerchio.
To the complaints about White-Ra: He's really good, but surely not the best. Same with people like Socke (who i'd rate slightly above Ra atm), he's extremely solid, but not quite on the top.
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At the moment:
Terran: 1.ThorZaiN 2. Major/Fenix
Protoss: 1. HuK/MaNa 2. NaNiWa/SaSe
Zerg: 1. Sen 2. Dimaga/Stephano/Ret
All time:
Terran: Jinro
Protoss: HuK
Zerg: Idra
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On September 25 2011 09:35 DiaBoLuS wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 09:14 iMp.will. wrote:
Select is korean
Idra? thats laughable
Its between Huk / Thorzain. Would give the edge to Thorzain
Really close behind them are Naniwa/Sen/Fenix
And please stop with this lame discussion - the place where you live/train doesnt change your nationality
Select = KOREAN
Huk = CANADIAN
Combat'EX = trash
well, he might be korean and i concider him as korean, but hes still a foreigner! just cause his whole sc2 carrier from beta on took place in the USA. thats why hes in the list and thats why i put the USA flag for him.
So why did you not put a chinese flag on SaSe then? As he has been playing most of his career from China (4 years). Also, Huk has played almost all his SC2 career from Korea, he just played a few months in NA.
Just give it a rest, Select is Korean.
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On September 25 2011 02:20 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 02:17 Titorelli wrote:On September 25 2011 02:15 antilyon wrote:On September 25 2011 01:47 IcyPringle wrote:
Just another pointless waste of a thread.
1. You don't have half as many people that should be up there.
2. You have people who will never reach that title so why they are up their is because of you.
3. Hundreds of these polls exist and accomplish nothing.
4. For everyone saying IdrA shouldn't be on that list your stupid, hes the best foreigner in the world with accomplishments and general skill level being unsurpassed by any one of those players. He's an American which will and always has made him a foreigner. 4.He WAS the best foreigner last year, right now, He may not be even on top 10. No he wasnt Yes he was. pre 2011 he was pretty much the best. (Beta results, MLG DC, Code S without good practice partners)
No he wasnt
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Not enough spots for every player... I guess it would be better to make a preliminary series first...
Make 10-12 players by race/region/alphabet/whatever and then do the top 8 or something like that in a poll!
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I voted Mana, not just from sympathy. When he play 100% he cannot be beaten. Couple days ago he just crushed Stephano 2-0.
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On September 25 2011 20:08 jarod wrote:
where is white-ra?
We already know he is the best  no contest with him in the polls!
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voting HuK, but i think SeleCT could do incredibly good in the future
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There's Kas but no Nerchio or WhiteRa? Weird.
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So, this thread is pretty stupid. Like half of these types of threads they degenerate into "LOL IDAR IS BEST" and "LOL NO EVEN RANDOM ZERG WHO'S WON SOME TURNMENT RECENTLY IS BETTER".
SEn is easily the best foreigner right now and has been for a long time. If he spent time in GSL he'd be a regular top 8 in a heartbeat. He's better than both Leenock, July and Zenio. Also, Kas is really overrated.
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funny thing is, since Koreans have started to be invited to foreign tournaments and dominate them so clearly, it is nearly impossible to assess who might be the best foreigner.
In any case, none of the guys you placed on that list isn't way ahead of everyone else. So I believe the position of best foreigner is still up for grabs.
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HuK... Easily.
He's the only one in Code S. He plays against the best daily.
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Thorzain is without a doubt the best foreign terran. For protoss, it's debatable between HuK and Nani, but I'm giving it to HuK because of the fact that he's consistently stayed in code S (and has even reached Ro8). For zerg, I think Sen is the best. Overall, Thorzain is the best foreigner.
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ThorZain is by far the best foreigner and has always been since TSL3.
Race by race it's ThorZain, Huk (SaSe soon :D) and SEn / Stephano / Dimaga / Ret
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I don't know that HuK is the best foreigner. I mean yes he's been in Code S for 4 seasons (and he will be in Code S next season) but you have to look at the players he beat. He never beat a favorite contender for the championship.
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EPT
