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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 24 2011 01:48 GMT
#221
I wouldn't be surprised to see SaSe end up with these guys. I think Na'vi fielding a SC2 can only mean good things for e-Sports. Glad to see more teams cropping up, now if we could only solve the visa problems with Chinese teams, e-Sports would take a huge leap.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
September 24 2011 02:51 GMT
#222
I definitely like the application process. They want to know player's salary requirements, it's very professional, just like a real job.

ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
September 24 2011 03:02 GMT
#223
Holy crap, Na'Vi is a sick team in whatever game they start competing in.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Weebem-Na
Profile Joined May 2010
United States221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 04:56:11
September 24 2011 03:12 GMT
#224
I get it now
The reaction of boron-11 and plain hydrogen produces all its energy in the form of charged particles which can be directed by a magnetic field, but the reaction is very difficult to sustain and many fusion physicists doubt it will ever prove practical
Chvol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States200 Posts
September 24 2011 03:13 GMT
#225
People act like there's not that many good players left to pick up for a new team, but it's not true. There are a lot of talented guys in EU especially who just haven't had the chance to fly around the world and train in Korea etc.. Just look at Thorzain. He was completely under the radar until TSL3. If they have a good eye for talent, they'll throw together an awsome team in no time.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
September 24 2011 04:14 GMT
#226
I wonder if the reasoning for NA being lower than EU is because Na'Vi is a EU team. If they want to have players in a pro-house, I would assume that they would put it in Europe. Therefore, it makes more sense to attempt to try to attract more European players than American players. That's the only reason I can think of as far as why EU is seemingly "ranked' as high as Korea in their eyes.

That being said, I don't think that ladder is the way to truly gauge skill. Especially since there is a huge discrepancy in "which server is the hardest." If there was a universal ladder that had everybody ranked against each other, then I could understand the point of this sort of system. But I really fail to see how it makes sense with the requirements they're asking.

Hopefully they become a good team though, as I would love to see them or any StarCraft professionals do great. Hopefully no big controversies though, as I would hate for more of that for the StarCraft community.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
September 24 2011 04:16 GMT
#227
On September 24 2011 12:13 Chvol wrote:
People act like there's not that many good players left to pick up for a new team, but it's not true. There are a lot of talented guys in EU especially who just haven't had the chance to fly around the world and train in Korea etc.. Just look at Thorzain. He was completely under the radar until TSL3. If they have a good eye for talent, they'll throw together an awsome team in no time.

ThorZaIN stated in an interview (sorry I'm not 100% sure where the source is, but it was something after he won TSL3) that he purposely tried to stay under the radar leading up to TSL3. It's still pretty amazing how he came out of no where, but his case in particular is a bit special. I think that if there were more players as talented and innovative as ThorZaIN, unless they're trying to hide from the spotlight, they would be found out by now.
Glockateer
Profile Joined June 2009
United States254 Posts
September 24 2011 04:18 GMT
#228
Pretty cool, I wish I worked harder at SC2 release. : P
GET SM4SHED
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
September 24 2011 04:35 GMT
#229
On September 24 2011 06:08 Buddhist wrote:
Show nested quote +

- Desired amount of monthly salary;


Is it just me, or is this a fucked up question? If you go too low, they just rip you off. If you go too high, they just decline you.

How do you answer this? :/


there are plenty of lesser known top GMs that will be happy to play for free sponsorship gear and no salary. i think that what they are really aiming for is whatever big names they can get to attract interest for the team.
The Show of a Lifetime
Ophi13
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada238 Posts
September 24 2011 05:04 GMT
#230
On September 24 2011 10:37 RogerX wrote:
Doesn't Na'Vi have a LoL team as well? Or am i misthinking.


You're misthinking probably
I love Lindsey Sporrer :)
malaki
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany80 Posts
September 24 2011 05:08 GMT
#231
On September 24 2011 02:48 carloselcoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 02:40 Ophi13 wrote:


What they demand:

- Top100 European / Korean ladder or Top20 American ladder;



BS! Top 100 in America are not worse than Top 100 in Europe. Also, Top 100 in Europe is way behind Top 100 in Korea!



yes they are worse,
a lot
doomed
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia420 Posts
September 24 2011 05:13 GMT
#232
It's all about dedication, and they feel that its equally easy to get top 20 on NA as it is getting top 100 in EU. they want people that takes it serious and will work their ass off to reach goals, not people that whine and try to defend their ladder server... rank 14 or rank 21 means nothing, its just a selection process based on ratings and what ever they feel like.

It's their way of thinning out the braindead casual gamers from the guys that do play 6-8 hours a day.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
September 24 2011 05:17 GMT
#233
On September 24 2011 02:47 Condor Hero wrote:
LOL wtf they shitting on NA ladder.
Obviously it's known but how does it help professional organization to basically say if you're #21 on NA ladder you're too shitty for our team?


not to mention isn't pretty much everyone in top 20 already in pro or semi pro teams? xD
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 24 2011 05:27 GMT
#234
On September 24 2011 14:08 malaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 02:48 carloselcoco wrote:
On September 24 2011 02:40 Ophi13 wrote:


What they demand:

- Top100 European / Korean ladder or Top20 American ladder;



BS! Top 100 in America are not worse than Top 100 in Europe. Also, Top 100 in Europe is way behind Top 100 in Korea!



yes they are worse,
a lot

Top 100 US is probably better TBH.
It seems that most European top dogs have abandoned ladder practice in favor of customs making way for mediocre players.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 05:33:00
September 24 2011 05:27 GMT
#235
I have big hopes for Na'Vi, they are very dedicated and hard working. Coming from the CS scene, I wouldn't be surprised if the soon-to-be best foreigner in the world rocks a Na'Vi tag.

GL to you!

Also, concerning the Top100 vs Top20 debate, it might just be that, because of where their teamhouse is located, it's more costly for them to raise an american than a european/korean player, therefore, setting the standard higher.
Quote?
ahx
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 05:40:08
September 24 2011 05:39 GMT
#236
everyone is getting way upset because of an application rule, it's just to stop people who otherwise would be wasting their time from doing so, if you are an outstanding player i'm sure they would look at you no matter what. Na'Vi hasn't been around forever but have proven to be a solid winning organization in multiple games, so..i highly doubt they would blindly make a decision just based of ladder rank. get a grip people
aFganFlyTrap
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia212 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 06:05:03
September 24 2011 05:59 GMT
#237
i thought navi already had 4-5 players on their roster. does going pro now mean they will pay these guys and recruit even more players?


the most known players being the protoss player from Denmark babyknight and of course everyones(rotterdams) favourite happyzerg
A.J.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States209 Posts
September 24 2011 06:01 GMT
#238
Hmm in my opinion guys that are great at ladder aren't always all that great in tournaments.

Good luck to them though. I look forward to seeing the full roster.
Take a chance
R-Tier
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden13 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 08:36:15
September 24 2011 08:22 GMT
#239
On September 24 2011 04:35 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:
On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.

NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.

Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options.

Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment.


Bad timing I guess but 2 posts after yours it becomes evident why you are better off not arguing with progamers about progaming and just listening a bit more.


He wasn't arguing with a progamer about progaming tho. You stated your opinion on how they should recruit, and how they supposedly was recruiting was dumb, he responded with an alternative view on things. Not anywhere in this is it clear that hes "better off not arguing with progamers about progaming". Maybe you should stop talking and stating your opinion for once and start listening abit more. You are both acting like idiots, you and Sina92.


I really do hope they find some amazing players who will perform excellent for them in the future. They really do have an eye for talent and seem to be a great team to be in. I wouldn't be surprised to see some huge names joining them later this year.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
September 24 2011 08:29 GMT
#240
This is fricken amazing, purely because one of the biggest DotA teams is making a SC2 team. Many of my friends purely play dota, and never got into starcraft. When they see that the team is branching to SC2, they will have second thoughts. GO STARCRAFT!
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