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On October 03 2011 06:24 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 06:06 Khanz wrote:On October 03 2011 05:47 s4life wrote:
The question is, how come none made a hype thread about the much more deserving 93% win rate that Happy had a couple of seasons ago? ... I guess e-sports fans are less like a regular sports fans and more like a bunch of groupies. On October 03 2011 05:41 kidd wrote:
Long thread for a ladder run that wasn't even the best EU has seen. Stephano is really good, everyone should know that already. Now can we stop arguing about something that is already highly inconsequential? happy was not called "gosu top 3 zerg in the world" by SlayerS_MMA, this is not only about his ladderrun but also why is his ladderrun so great. Oh pleaazzzze, and DRG called Thorzain the best foreing player in the world.. what about that? at least Thorzain has something to show for it.. what has Stephano done? what LANs has he won or was close to winning? none, nothing, nada, zero. That's why I used the term groupies.. let's wait and see how he does at IPL.. my hunch? he's gonna get dismantled by the koreans....
Can't we just agree that Stephano is a great player with potential? Who cares what exact label we put on it. He's an excellent player that hasn't participated in many offline events yet. Is it that hard to agree on?
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On October 04 2011 01:10 Ahelvin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 01:05 s4life wrote:On October 03 2011 21:57 Dawg_Snow wrote:On October 03 2011 06:24 s4life wrote:
Oh pleaazzzze, and DRG called Thorzain the best foreing player in the world.. what about that? at least Thorzain has something to show for it.. what has Stephano done? what LANs has he won or was close to winning? none, nothing, nada, zero. That's why I used the term groupies.. let's wait and see how he does at IPL.. my hunch? he's gonna get dismantled by the koreans.... assembly and hsc3 ? You obviously never saw him play, so keep the hate to yourself. Nobody cares about your hunch btw. He may loose, he may win, in either situation i m sure he will provide good entertainment to the viewers. I've seen him play.. great macro and potential, his fans are a bunch groupies though and probably his biggest obstacle to improve -- as apparently he won't leave france because his team believes he's better off winning against nobodies in local french tournies -- IPL wasn't paid by his team. This. French SC2 scene is not focused on what really matter : International visibility. It's a real shame. Most players (ToD being an exception) are awful in English and feel very comfortable staying in a country where the SC2 scene is quite small and isolated from the International scene. The french SC2 league (The EGG One Starleague) had little to no coverage on TL. Why? Because french stream was the only one available. Would you imagine a Dreamhack stream in Swedish and not in English? Come on Stephano, don't fall for this. Join a big, international team, or at least push Millenium to internationalize itself.
This is bullshit, Stephano is going to IPL, MLG, he will try to qualify for NASL and he said today that Korea is maybe not that far.
Millenium is a european powergaming, there is no point for them to focus only in France. Yeah, Lwl, the mannager has probably the secret hope to see e-sport grow in France (and this is a good thing for e-sport in overall, you can't base e-sport on only 5/6 states) but that doesn't mean he doesn't care about international. He has a lot of experience (remember wc3) and he probably knows better than you what he has to do.
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On October 04 2011 01:10 Ahelvin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 01:05 s4life wrote:On October 03 2011 21:57 Dawg_Snow wrote:On October 03 2011 06:24 s4life wrote:
Oh pleaazzzze, and DRG called Thorzain the best foreing player in the world.. what about that? at least Thorzain has something to show for it.. what has Stephano done? what LANs has he won or was close to winning? none, nothing, nada, zero. That's why I used the term groupies.. let's wait and see how he does at IPL.. my hunch? he's gonna get dismantled by the koreans.... assembly and hsc3 ? You obviously never saw him play, so keep the hate to yourself. Nobody cares about your hunch btw. He may loose, he may win, in either situation i m sure he will provide good entertainment to the viewers. I've seen him play.. great macro and potential, his fans are a bunch groupies though and probably his biggest obstacle to improve -- as apparently he won't leave france because his team believes he's better off winning against nobodies in local french tournies -- IPL wasn't paid by his team. This. French SC2 scene is not focused on what really matter : International visibility. It's a real shame. Most players (ToD being an exception) are awful in English and feel very comfortable staying in a country where the SC2 scene is quite small and isolated from the International scene. The french SC2 league (The EGG One Starleague) had little to no coverage on TL. Why? Because french stream was the only one available. Would you imagine a Dreamhack stream in Swedish and not in English? Come on Stephano, don't fall for this. Join a big, international team, or at least push Millenium to internationalize itself.
Why does he need to? If he wants to stay and they are sending him to international tournaments what difference does it make if he players for a relatively unknown team? All this "for the betterment of ESPORTS" talk is actually getting quite stupid, but a counterargument to yours goes like... by stephano winning for this low level team, if the sponsors see how much publicity he gets for them they might be inclined to expand the team, this means more players are sponsored and able to go to events, overall growing the scene not only by more pro gamers receiving funding, but having more players from all over the world representing SC2 and ESPORTS.
Strike everything about them being a "low level" team. I had never assumed MYM meant Millennium. That being said the rest still stands.
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On October 04 2011 01:10 Ahelvin wrote:This.
French SC2 scene is not focused on what really matter : International visibility. It's a real shame. Most players (ToD being an exception) are awful in English and feel very comfortable staying in a country where the SC2 scene is quite small and isolated from the International scene.
The french SC2 league (The EGG One Starleague) had little to no coverage on TL. Why? Because french stream was the only one available. Would you imagine a Dreamhack stream in Swedish and not in English?
Come on Stephano, don't fall for this. Join a big, international team, or at least push Millenium to internationalize itself.
Could you stop insulting the work of the numerous editors on the Liquipedia who are doing an awesome job covering the scene ? You are making yourself look ridiculous.
Edit : MYM stands for Meet Your Makers (orginally a DotA team/website) Millenium is abbreviated by [M], mill or M‡ generally.
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Dude, in the end the guy is right man (Ahelvin). Face the truth
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On October 04 2011 02:57 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 01:10 Ahelvin wrote:This.
French SC2 scene is not focused on what really matter : International visibility. It's a real shame. Most players (ToD being an exception) are awful in English and feel very comfortable staying in a country where the SC2 scene is quite small and isolated from the International scene.
The french SC2 league (The EGG One Starleague) had little to no coverage on TL. Why? Because french stream was the only one available. Would you imagine a Dreamhack stream in Swedish and not in English?
Come on Stephano, don't fall for this. Join a big, international team, or at least push Millenium to internationalize itself. Could you stop insulting the work of the numerous editors on the Liquipedia who are doing an awesome job covering the scene ? You are making yourself look ridiculous. Edit : MYM stands for Meet Your Makers (orginally a DotA team/website) Millenium is abbreviated by [M], mill or M‡ generally.
MYM a DotA team ?
They existed long before DotA appeared man
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stephano is sick at defending and hes zerg so he just overrolls everyone with lategame zerg
hes just a beast right now
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On October 04 2011 03:12 Denar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 02:57 Otolia wrote:On October 04 2011 01:10 Ahelvin wrote:This.
French SC2 scene is not focused on what really matter : International visibility. It's a real shame. Most players (ToD being an exception) are awful in English and feel very comfortable staying in a country where the SC2 scene is quite small and isolated from the International scene.
The french SC2 league (The EGG One Starleague) had little to no coverage on TL. Why? Because french stream was the only one available. Would you imagine a Dreamhack stream in Swedish and not in English?
Come on Stephano, don't fall for this. Join a big, international team, or at least push Millenium to internationalize itself. Could you stop insulting the work of the numerous editors on the Liquipedia who are doing an awesome job covering the scene ? You are making yourself look ridiculous. Edit : MYM stands for Meet Your Makers (orginally a DotA team/website) Millenium is abbreviated by [M], mill or M‡ generally. MYM a DotA team ? They existed long before DotA appeared man
It's what they are most known for right now, but yeah not originally DotA
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On October 03 2011 06:24 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 06:06 Khanz wrote:On October 03 2011 05:47 s4life wrote:
The question is, how come none made a hype thread about the much more deserving 93% win rate that Happy had a couple of seasons ago? ... I guess e-sports fans are less like a regular sports fans and more like a bunch of groupies. On October 03 2011 05:41 kidd wrote:
Long thread for a ladder run that wasn't even the best EU has seen. Stephano is really good, everyone should know that already. Now can we stop arguing about something that is already highly inconsequential? happy was not called "gosu top 3 zerg in the world" by SlayerS_MMA, this is not only about his ladderrun but also why is his ladderrun so great. Oh pleaazzzze, and DRG called Thorzain the best foreing player in the world.. what about that? at least Thorzain has something to show for it.. what has Stephano done? what LANs has he won or was close to winning? none, nothing, nada, zero. That's why I used the term groupies.. let's wait and see how he does at IPL.. my hunch? he's gonna get dismantled by the koreans....
Happy's winstreak was a lot less deserving simply because he played terran and quiet frankly it's almost expected.
Also http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1996_Stephano. He didn't go to much lans, but out of 4 that i can recall of the top of my head he won 2, placed 3rd at assembly and lost to MC at homestory.
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On October 04 2011 03:39 KillerSOS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:12 Denar wrote:On October 04 2011 02:57 Otolia wrote:On October 04 2011 01:10 Ahelvin wrote:This.
French SC2 scene is not focused on what really matter : International visibility. It's a real shame. Most players (ToD being an exception) are awful in English and feel very comfortable staying in a country where the SC2 scene is quite small and isolated from the International scene.
The french SC2 league (The EGG One Starleague) had little to no coverage on TL. Why? Because french stream was the only one available. Would you imagine a Dreamhack stream in Swedish and not in English?
Come on Stephano, don't fall for this. Join a big, international team, or at least push Millenium to internationalize itself. Could you stop insulting the work of the numerous editors on the Liquipedia who are doing an awesome job covering the scene ? You are making yourself look ridiculous. Edit : MYM stands for Meet Your Makers (orginally a DotA team/website) Millenium is abbreviated by [M], mill or M‡ generally. MYM a DotA team ? They existed long before DotA appeared man It's what they are most known for right now, but yeah not originally DotA
Yeah, for exemple they had a pretty nice team in wc3 and were doing well in wc3l.
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On October 04 2011 02:57 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 01:10 Ahelvin wrote:This.
French SC2 scene is not focused on what really matter : International visibility. It's a real shame. Most players (ToD being an exception) are awful in English and feel very comfortable staying in a country where the SC2 scene is quite small and isolated from the International scene.
The french SC2 league (The EGG One Starleague) had little to no coverage on TL. Why? Because french stream was the only one available. Would you imagine a Dreamhack stream in Swedish and not in English?
Come on Stephano, don't fall for this. Join a big, international team, or at least push Millenium to internationalize itself. Could you stop insulting the work of the numerous editors on the Liquipedia who are doing an awesome job covering the scene ? You are making yourself look ridiculous. Edit : MYM stands for Meet Your Makers (orginally a DotA team/website) Millenium is abbreviated by [M], mill or M‡ generally.
I obviously didn't meant to diss Liquipedia editors. They are building a long-wanted bridge between the French community and the rest of the SC2 world and are doing an awesome job. When I said "little to no coverage", I meant "LR thread". Obviously, since the stream was in French, most TL readers didn't see an interest in watching the game.
Sorry if I've been unclear (langage once again  ), but I do have the utmost respect for any person giving his time for the community.
About my comment on Stephano, it was quite poorly worded I must admit, since I was only expressing my personal view on the subject. But after all, Stephano knows what is best for him, and I hope that his decision to stay with Millenium will have the best possible outcome for him  .
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On October 04 2011 03:44 Gevna wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:39 KillerSOS wrote:On October 04 2011 03:12 Denar wrote:On October 04 2011 02:57 Otolia wrote:On October 04 2011 01:10 Ahelvin wrote:This.
French SC2 scene is not focused on what really matter : International visibility. It's a real shame. Most players (ToD being an exception) are awful in English and feel very comfortable staying in a country where the SC2 scene is quite small and isolated from the International scene.
The french SC2 league (The EGG One Starleague) had little to no coverage on TL. Why? Because french stream was the only one available. Would you imagine a Dreamhack stream in Swedish and not in English?
Come on Stephano, don't fall for this. Join a big, international team, or at least push Millenium to internationalize itself. Could you stop insulting the work of the numerous editors on the Liquipedia who are doing an awesome job covering the scene ? You are making yourself look ridiculous. Edit : MYM stands for Meet Your Makers (orginally a DotA team/website) Millenium is abbreviated by [M], mill or M‡ generally. MYM a DotA team ? They existed long before DotA appeared man It's what they are most known for right now, but yeah not originally DotA Yeah, for exemple they had a pretty nice team in wc3 and were doing well in wc3l.
And BW !
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On October 04 2011 03:44 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 06:24 s4life wrote:On October 03 2011 06:06 Khanz wrote:On October 03 2011 05:47 s4life wrote:
The question is, how come none made a hype thread about the much more deserving 93% win rate that Happy had a couple of seasons ago? ... I guess e-sports fans are less like a regular sports fans and more like a bunch of groupies. On October 03 2011 05:41 kidd wrote:
Long thread for a ladder run that wasn't even the best EU has seen. Stephano is really good, everyone should know that already. Now can we stop arguing about something that is already highly inconsequential? happy was not called "gosu top 3 zerg in the world" by SlayerS_MMA, this is not only about his ladderrun but also why is his ladderrun so great. Oh pleaazzzze, and DRG called Thorzain the best foreing player in the world.. what about that? at least Thorzain has something to show for it.. what has Stephano done? what LANs has he won or was close to winning? none, nothing, nada, zero. That's why I used the term groupies.. let's wait and see how he does at IPL.. my hunch? he's gonna get dismantled by the koreans.... Happy's winstreak was a lot less deserving simply because he played terran and quiet frankly it's almost expected. Also http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1996_Stephano. He didn't go to much lans, but out of 4 that i can recall of the top of my head he won 2, placed 3rd at assembly and lost to MC at homestory.
It's not really 'expected' to get a 93% w.r. when the second best w.r in EU was like 10% lower. I guess that is not deserving because we don't have a bunch of pushy groupies writing all over TL about how great Happy is.
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On October 03 2011 06:24 s4life wrote:
I've seen him play.. great macro and potential, his fans are a bunch groupies though and probably his biggest obstacle to improve -- as apparently he won't leave france because his team believes he's better off winning against nobodies in local french tournies -- IPL wasn't paid by his team.
He is already competing in nearly every EU tournaments and not only in french ones, he will go to IPL MLG and will try to qualify for NASL. He is not sure about korea and that s why he's not there at the moment.
And please, stop calling people groupies, you re being a hater here and calling people groupies is BM, we did not disrespect you
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I feel that DeMusliM's whole ladder season is way more impressive. Maybe that's just me.
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On October 04 2011 05:56 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:44 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 03 2011 06:24 s4life wrote:On October 03 2011 06:06 Khanz wrote:On October 03 2011 05:47 s4life wrote:
The question is, how come none made a hype thread about the much more deserving 93% win rate that Happy had a couple of seasons ago? ... I guess e-sports fans are less like a regular sports fans and more like a bunch of groupies. On October 03 2011 05:41 kidd wrote:
Long thread for a ladder run that wasn't even the best EU has seen. Stephano is really good, everyone should know that already. Now can we stop arguing about something that is already highly inconsequential? happy was not called "gosu top 3 zerg in the world" by SlayerS_MMA, this is not only about his ladderrun but also why is his ladderrun so great. Oh pleaazzzze, and DRG called Thorzain the best foreing player in the world.. what about that? at least Thorzain has something to show for it.. what has Stephano done? what LANs has he won or was close to winning? none, nothing, nada, zero. That's why I used the term groupies.. let's wait and see how he does at IPL.. my hunch? he's gonna get dismantled by the koreans.... Happy's winstreak was a lot less deserving simply because he played terran and quiet frankly it's almost expected. Also http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1996_Stephano. He didn't go to much lans, but out of 4 that i can recall of the top of my head he won 2, placed 3rd at assembly and lost to MC at homestory. It's not really 'expected' to get a 93% w.r. when the second best w.r in EU was like 10% lower. I guess that is not deserving because we don't have a bunch of pushy groupies writing all over TL about how great Happy is.
because 2nd best in Europe is playing to win LANs while happy is trying to put in the minimum effort required into this game. Have you ever seen happy play? He only has one strategy for each match up.
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Can we please let this go.. I looked at the GM rankings a couple of days ago and he was rank 4 so we can assume the ladder run is over and move on ..
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On October 04 2011 23:01 ineq wrote:
I feel that DeMusliM's whole ladder season is way more impressive. Maybe that's just me.
Well demuslim was ok, though he has a much weaker MMR on EU and didn t get 3 points/win and wasn t matched with only high GM players. Maybe that's just me
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On October 04 2011 23:16 Dawg_Snow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 23:01 ineq wrote:
I feel that DeMusliM's whole ladder season is way more impressive. Maybe that's just me. Well demuslim was ok, though he has a much weaker MMR on EU and didn t get 3 points/win and wasn t matched with only high GM players. Maybe that's just me
What do you mean okay?  he's been on top of the US ladder all season more or less, and he's been top20 EU all season aswell, now beeing #1 on both, with over a 83% winratio.
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On September 24 2011 01:46 galtdunn wrote:
Holy crap... lmao he must be ladder raging about the situation he was in, except it appears that he gets good when he's mad...
Gogo Stephano!!! I wish I could watch your stream but I'm at work...
Hope to see you winning some big competitions soon! (show Nerchio who's boss xD)
Why would he have been mad at the situation he was in? He hounded Mill into giving him what he wanted, more money.
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