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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 01 2011 14:08 GMT
#741
Some people seriously judging Stephano over 1 not so good series against Ryung who is sick himself.... but when they see



this.. they are saying "Lag, MMA tired, bad day" .. etc :s
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
JustinL
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia58 Posts
October 01 2011 14:26 GMT
#742
It's insane how much Stephano dominates the top of the Grandmaster while messing around with only tier 1 units. He doesn't even use hotkeys to go to his bases for injects from what I've seen. So fast and accurate with his mouse. I hope he doesn't choke at LANs. The only one I saw him at was the Home Story Cup (which he did very well in), but that doesn't involve having hundreds of spectators on the other side of your computer screen.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
October 01 2011 14:32 GMT
#743
On October 01 2011 23:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Some people seriously judging Stephano over 1 not so good series against Ryung who is sick himself.... but when they see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQkyQUpdnds&feature=feedu

this.. they are saying "Lag, MMA tired, bad day" .. etc :s


Didn't use a dropship until 17:00 in game minutes (for marines).
Didn't split MM at all against fungals he knew were coming.

I saw stephano's team controversy play and then this thread. I was looking quickly for replays of him to see what all this fuss was over. I still do not find his "ladder run" impressive at all. I downloaded every replay I could find of him and most games were not impressive. However I found a few more games against talented pros and watched this match. I think he is quite a good player. While I think MMA probably was actually tired this game here if MMA was playing at 100% would be closer, but I'm not so sure the outcome would be different. I still don't see the extreme fuss over him. He is good, but there are many good players. I hope to see more of his action and less drama about him.
Saint131
Profile Joined July 2011
30 Posts
October 01 2011 14:52 GMT
#744
Hmmm... Stephano, never heard of him. I better keep an eye out on tournament results in the near future.
Hello World
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
October 01 2011 14:57 GMT
#745
On October 01 2011 23:32 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 23:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Some people seriously judging Stephano over 1 not so good series against Ryung who is sick himself.... but when they see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQkyQUpdnds&feature=feedu

this.. they are saying "Lag, MMA tired, bad day" .. etc :s


Didn't use a dropship until 17:00 in game minutes (for marines).
Didn't split MM at all against fungals he knew were coming.

I saw stephano's team controversy play and then this thread. I was looking quickly for replays of him to see what all this fuss was over. I still do not find his "ladder run" impressive at all. I downloaded every replay I could find of him and most games were not impressive. However I found a few more games against talented pros and watched this match. I think he is quite a good player. While I think MMA probably was actually tired this game here if MMA was playing at 100% would be closer, but I'm not so sure the outcome would be different. I still don't see the extreme fuss over him. He is good, but there are many good players. I hope to see more of his action and less drama about him.

Well, I guess there's such a fuss over him because IdrA used to be the foreign hope. He has proven that he can't compete with koreans several times and now people put their hopes into Stephano. Considering he's only 18 years old and just recently started putting all his time into this game it might turn out well for him. He'll prove himself in MLG orlando I hope.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
October 01 2011 15:05 GMT
#746
On October 01 2011 23:57 decaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 23:32 NoobSkills wrote:
On October 01 2011 23:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Some people seriously judging Stephano over 1 not so good series against Ryung who is sick himself.... but when they see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQkyQUpdnds&feature=feedu

this.. they are saying "Lag, MMA tired, bad day" .. etc :s


Didn't use a dropship until 17:00 in game minutes (for marines).
Didn't split MM at all against fungals he knew were coming.

I saw stephano's team controversy play and then this thread. I was looking quickly for replays of him to see what all this fuss was over. I still do not find his "ladder run" impressive at all. I downloaded every replay I could find of him and most games were not impressive. However I found a few more games against talented pros and watched this match. I think he is quite a good player. While I think MMA probably was actually tired this game here if MMA was playing at 100% would be closer, but I'm not so sure the outcome would be different. I still don't see the extreme fuss over him. He is good, but there are many good players. I hope to see more of his action and less drama about him.

Well, I guess there's such a fuss over him because IdrA used to be the foreign hope. He has proven that he can't compete with koreans several times and now people put their hopes into Stephano. Considering he's only 18 years old and just recently started putting all his time into this game it might turn out well for him. He'll prove himself in MLG orlando I hope.


Interesting. Is he really the only hope? Thorzain Huk Naniwa. I never really considered IdrA the foreign hope, but did root for him to win. I always thought HuK would figure it out first, but that doesn't seem to be happening. I do hope however that a bunch of white people go over and stomp through the GSL. Hopefully though some foreigner can take down this MLG GO WHOEVER!!!
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6277 Posts
October 01 2011 15:12 GMT
#747
On October 02 2011 00:05 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 23:57 decaf wrote:
On October 01 2011 23:32 NoobSkills wrote:
On October 01 2011 23:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Some people seriously judging Stephano over 1 not so good series against Ryung who is sick himself.... but when they see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQkyQUpdnds&feature=feedu

this.. they are saying "Lag, MMA tired, bad day" .. etc :s


Didn't use a dropship until 17:00 in game minutes (for marines).
Didn't split MM at all against fungals he knew were coming.

I saw stephano's team controversy play and then this thread. I was looking quickly for replays of him to see what all this fuss was over. I still do not find his "ladder run" impressive at all. I downloaded every replay I could find of him and most games were not impressive. However I found a few more games against talented pros and watched this match. I think he is quite a good player. While I think MMA probably was actually tired this game here if MMA was playing at 100% would be closer, but I'm not so sure the outcome would be different. I still don't see the extreme fuss over him. He is good, but there are many good players. I hope to see more of his action and less drama about him.

Well, I guess there's such a fuss over him because IdrA used to be the foreign hope. He has proven that he can't compete with koreans several times and now people put their hopes into Stephano. Considering he's only 18 years old and just recently started putting all his time into this game it might turn out well for him. He'll prove himself in MLG orlando I hope.


Interesting. Is he really the only hope? Thorzain Huk Naniwa. I never really considered IdrA the foreign hope, but did root for him to win. I always thought HuK would figure it out first, but that doesn't seem to be happening. I do hope however that a bunch of white people go over and stomp through the GSL. Hopefully though some foreigner can take down this MLG GO WHOEVER!!!


No he was never the only hope, first you had him and jinro then huk came and now we have thorzain and naniwa added to that.

Stephano is quite impressive though I think he can become really good maybe even top code S but he still has a long road to go.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
October 01 2011 15:13 GMT
#748
Tbh, Demuslim needs a bit more credit. His ladder rank is consistently superior to Stephano, and whilst he has not won a tournament, he should be getting just as much hype as Stephano considering Stephano has not won anything either. Demuslim has the sickest winrate and whilst that may be attriubted to Terran's immunity to cheese, it still shows solid fundamentals and good builds.

Watched that game vs MMA and I thought Stephano played well but not amazing and that MMA was not playing his best, and the games didn't matter anyway.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 15:15:56
October 01 2011 15:14 GMT
#749
What do people expect him to be, the next messiah?
Give him a break.

And people claiming his IPL 3 Qualifier run to be a fluke, and adding comments like

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 01 2011 23:32 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 23:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Some people seriously judging Stephano over 1 not so good series against Ryung who is sick himself.... but when they see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQkyQUpdnds&feature=feedu

this.. they are saying "Lag, MMA tired, bad day" .. etc :s


Didn't use a dropship until 17:00 in game minutes (for marines).
Didn't split MM at all against fungals he knew were coming.

While I think MMA probably was actually tired this game here if MMA was playing at 100% would be closer, but I'm not so sure the outcome would be different. I still don't see the extreme fuss over him.


are stupid. Why are you searching for excuses for his opponent?
Did you ever ask yourself why you often see hilariously bad mistakes in pro games, while
in a pro vs semi-pro / third rated player, the pro 99% stomps the other guy without making a mistake while making his opponent looking like a huge scrub?
Downplaying his games / achievements is disgusting.
wat
viOLetFanClub
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Korea (South)390 Posts
October 01 2011 15:16 GMT
#750
Where's his stats on the KR ladder?
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 15:37:11
October 01 2011 15:34 GMT
#751
On October 02 2011 00:13 Micket wrote:
Tbh, Demuslim needs a bit more credit. His ladder rank is consistently superior to Stephano, and whilst he has not won a tournament, he should be getting just as much hype as Stephano considering Stephano has not won anything either. Demuslim has the sickest winrate and whilst that may be attriubted to Terran's immunity to cheese, it still shows solid fundamentals and good builds.

Watched that game vs MMA and I thought Stephano played well but not amazing and that MMA was not playing his best, and the games didn't matter anyway.


hm tbh his ladderun was made when he was already GM. going from match placement to #1 GM is not as impresive that doing a score of 64-1 being GM.
bRuTaL!!
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland588 Posts
October 01 2011 15:36 GMT
#752
On October 02 2011 00:16 k1mjee wrote:
Where's his stats on the KR ladder?


As far as I know, he doesnt play on KR ladder. And I sincerely hope you didnt know that and that this wasnt some kind of sneaky "If its not in Korea, it doesnt matter" etc. argument.
Tasteless: "What was it Hans Solo was frozen in? Kryptonite?" Artosis: "Lol, no. Thats the stuff that hurts Batman."
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 01 2011 16:46 GMT
#753
On October 02 2011 00:16 k1mjee wrote:
Where's his stats on the KR ladder?


EU<>KR is not really playable... thats why EU players can't play on the KR server. I for example would love to play there, but its just not possible.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
October 01 2011 16:51 GMT
#754
On October 02 2011 01:46 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 00:16 k1mjee wrote:
Where's his stats on the KR ladder?


EU<>KR is not really playable... thats why EU players can't play on the KR server. I for example would love to play there, but its just not possible.


I didn't realize that the lag was so much worse than NA>KR (How a lot of other pros seem to do it). That really sucks.

Though it explains a lot, as to why you rarely hear about EUR players on the KR ladder.

Anyway, GJ to Stephano, that's absolutely ridiculous.
moose...indian
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 18:15:57
October 01 2011 18:14 GMT
#755
On October 02 2011 00:14 Elefanto wrote:
What do people expect him to be, the next messiah?
Give him a break.

And people claiming his IPL 3 Qualifier run to be a fluke, and adding comments like

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 01 2011 23:32 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 23:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Some people seriously judging Stephano over 1 not so good series against Ryung who is sick himself.... but when they see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQkyQUpdnds&feature=feedu

this.. they are saying "Lag, MMA tired, bad day" .. etc :s


Didn't use a dropship until 17:00 in game minutes (for marines).
Didn't split MM at all against fungals he knew were coming.

While I think MMA probably was actually tired this game here if MMA was playing at 100% would be closer, but I'm not so sure the outcome would be different. I still don't see the extreme fuss over him.


are stupid. Why are you searching for excuses for his opponent?
Did you ever ask yourself why you often see hilariously bad mistakes in pro games, while
in a pro vs semi-pro / third rated player, the pro 99% stomps the other guy without making a mistake while making his opponent looking like a huge scrub?
Downplaying his games / achievements is disgusting.


You seem to miss where I say the outcome might have been the same if MMA was playing at the top of his game. I'm not dismissing the guys talent because his strategy is quite good, but if you think that was MMA's 100% you're sadly mistaken. I could list more examples from that game, but why bother obviously I'm a Stephano hater.

Edit: You EU players seem to really stick to you guys. I wish I was this angry when everyone was dogging Huk.... Oh wait I'd rather have a reasonable discussion on the topic at hand.
Gimmickkz
Profile Joined April 2011
154 Posts
October 01 2011 18:21 GMT
#756
Wow thought he was protoss
rANDY
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United Kingdom748 Posts
October 01 2011 18:27 GMT
#757
NarutO don't worry about the few haters in the thread, the silent majority agree, 5-10k ppl tuning in when he turns on his stream. Watching him play is really nice, helping me a lot with some of my holes
babo213
Profile Joined January 2011
United States266 Posts
October 01 2011 18:27 GMT
#758
I don't get the hype about Stephano. Good player, but with how some people post about him, it makes it sound like he's better than MVP + Nestea.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 18:33:52
October 01 2011 18:27 GMT
#759
On October 02 2011 03:14 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 00:14 Elefanto wrote:
What do people expect him to be, the next messiah?
Give him a break.

And people claiming his IPL 3 Qualifier run to be a fluke, and adding comments like

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 01 2011 23:32 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 23:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Some people seriously judging Stephano over 1 not so good series against Ryung who is sick himself.... but when they see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQkyQUpdnds&feature=feedu

this.. they are saying "Lag, MMA tired, bad day" .. etc :s


Didn't use a dropship until 17:00 in game minutes (for marines).
Didn't split MM at all against fungals he knew were coming.

While I think MMA probably was actually tired this game here if MMA was playing at 100% would be closer, but I'm not so sure the outcome would be different. I still don't see the extreme fuss over him.


are stupid. Why are you searching for excuses for his opponent?
Did you ever ask yourself why you often see hilariously bad mistakes in pro games, while
in a pro vs semi-pro / third rated player, the pro 99% stomps the other guy without making a mistake while making his opponent looking like a huge scrub?
Downplaying his games / achievements is disgusting.


You seem to miss where I say the outcome might have been the same if MMA was playing at the top of his game. I'm not dismissing the guys talent because his strategy is quite good, but if you think that was MMA's 100% you're sadly mistaken. I could list more examples from that game, but why bother obviously I'm a Stephano hater.

Edit: You EU players seem to really stick to you guys. I wish I was this angry when everyone was dogging Huk.... Oh wait I'd rather have a reasonable discussion on the topic at hand.


I claim Stephano was tired and didn't play 100% and you can't prove otherwise. See how constructive this is?

edit: He was also tired and had to pee vs Ryung in case you wonder so that loss doesn't count.
Maeh
Profile Joined May 2011
France295 Posts
October 02 2011 13:09 GMT
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