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bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
September 22 2011 09:30 GMT
#441
Go go col, fantastic grab here. Just a pity you couldn't get stephano as well, that would have been killer
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
September 22 2011 09:33 GMT
#442
Awesome pickup, and hope he gets the support he needs in Korea.
"more gg, more skill"
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 09:35:49
September 22 2011 09:35 GMT
#443
On September 22 2011 18:23 Night Eyes wrote:
I'm happy for Naniwa but I'm sad for Dignitas, they had 3 players in Korea and now one of them left...
Apart form the MVP team house I wonder what Naniwa gains form this, money isn't something I'm looking at since I'm sure Dignitas would have payed him well too.

All this aside: Nani fighting!!!!


You are understimating practicing PvP with Genius, PvZ with Donraegu, and PvT with Keen/Noblesse. And the other players. In a korean training environment.

He gains enough.
Typhus
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway122 Posts
September 22 2011 09:35 GMT
#444
Not really too surprising as Naniwa wanted to stay in Korea. complexity being the only team apart from TL with ties to a korean team means this just makes sense for both parties.
Eroart
Profile Joined July 2011
Greece37 Posts
September 22 2011 09:38 GMT
#445
Really nice move!

I think it was quite expected, considering the Stephano case as well as Complexity's attempts to cooperate with the Korean scene, that seems to interest Naniwa as well!
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
September 22 2011 09:38 GMT
#446
Nice pickup!!
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
September 22 2011 09:43 GMT
#447
Gratz Naniwa/Complexity.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
September 22 2011 09:45 GMT
#448
So happy for Naniwa, hope he becomes the monster we all expect him to become
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 22 2011 09:49 GMT
#449
Naniwa gonna get into big arguments with Noblesse and Keen about balance. Then DRG just beats them both and shuts them up.

It could be a sitcom!
memes are a dish best served dank
TeeBee
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom17 Posts
September 22 2011 09:53 GMT
#450
Seems like a good move for all involved. Nani gets a stable position training in the MVP house and CoL get a very nice addition to the team.
Hero, MC, Fantasy, Jaedong
JustinMartin
Profile Joined November 2010
159 Posts
September 22 2011 09:58 GMT
#451
kinda expected it
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
September 22 2011 10:02 GMT
#452
CoL going for that strong foreign lineup to do a big Korea push.
.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 10:08:39
September 22 2011 10:05 GMT
#453
On September 22 2011 18:35 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 18:23 Night Eyes wrote:
I'm happy for Naniwa but I'm sad for Dignitas, they had 3 players in Korea and now one of them left...
Apart form the MVP team house I wonder what Naniwa gains form this, money isn't something I'm looking at since I'm sure Dignitas would have payed him well too.

All this aside: Nani fighting!!!!


You are understimating practicing PvP with Genius, PvZ with Donraegu, and PvT with Keen/Noblesse. And the other players. In a korean training environment.

He gains enough.

Genius. Not exactly known as the greatest in PvP. Practicing against somebody like EG'HuK, Liquid'HerO or oGsMC would have been more beneficial for him. He may have beaten Inca in a PvP, but so has MC. And for MC, PvP is EZ PZ. To my knowledge, only two people have actually beaten him in a broadcasted PvP match and that is HuK and NaNiwa.

DongRaeGu. Not exactly known for the best ZvP. His ZvT knowledge and general grasp on the matchup on the other hand would be beneficial for a Terran player. ZvP is probably DRG's achilles' heel as well as his ZvZ. Plus if you wanted a Zerg practice partner out of any Zerg in the world, NesTea would have had to be it for ZvP and ZvZ.

Keen and Noblesse aren't exactly known for the best TvP either. Then again, TvP is in a dire state metagame wise in Korea and NaNi will need all the practice he can get against variations of 111 and bio aggression.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 10:11:44
September 22 2011 10:09 GMT
#454
On September 22 2011 19:05 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 18:35 haitike wrote:
On September 22 2011 18:23 Night Eyes wrote:
I'm happy for Naniwa but I'm sad for Dignitas, they had 3 players in Korea and now one of them left...
Apart form the MVP team house I wonder what Naniwa gains form this, money isn't something I'm looking at since I'm sure Dignitas would have payed him well too.

All this aside: Nani fighting!!!!


You are understimating practicing PvP with Genius, PvZ with Donraegu, and PvT with Keen/Noblesse. And the other players. In a korean training environment.

He gains enough.

Genius. Not exactly known as the greatest in PvP. Practicing against somebody like EG'HuK, Liquid'HerO or oGsMC would have been more beneficial for him

DongRaeGu. Not exactly known for the best ZvP. His ZvT knowledge and general grasp on the matchup on the other hand would be beneficial for a Terran player. ZvP is probably DRG's achilles' heel as well as his ZvZ. Plus if you wanted a Zerg practice partner out of any Zerg in the world, NesTea would have had to be it for ZvP and ZvZ.

Keen and Noblesse aren't exactly known for the best TvP either. Then again, TvP is in a dire state metagame wise in Korea and NaNi will need all the practice he can get against variations of 111 and bio aggression.


They are better than any foreigner anyway. Furthermore, i dont know how that could be worst that go to EG and be alone with Puma and Huk and wihout a zerg.

And there are more good training partners like Monster, Violet, Sniper, Dream, sc, guineapig.

It is a worth it training enviroment. It could be better (oGs, Slayers, IM, etc.) but Naniwa took the right desicion, because he can travel to foreign tournaments with Col/MVP.
Chrill
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden91 Posts
September 22 2011 10:12 GMT
#455
On September 22 2011 19:05 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 18:35 haitike wrote:
On September 22 2011 18:23 Night Eyes wrote:
I'm happy for Naniwa but I'm sad for Dignitas, they had 3 players in Korea and now one of them left...
Apart form the MVP team house I wonder what Naniwa gains form this, money isn't something I'm looking at since I'm sure Dignitas would have payed him well too.

All this aside: Nani fighting!!!!


You are understimating practicing PvP with Genius, PvZ with Donraegu, and PvT with Keen/Noblesse. And the other players. In a korean training environment.

He gains enough.

Genius. Not exactly known as the greatest in PvP. Practicing against somebody like EG'HuK, Liquid'HerO or oGsMC would have been more beneficial for him. He may have beaten Inca in a PvP, but so has MC. And for MC, PvP is EZ PZ. To my knowledge, only two people have actually beaten him in a broadcasted PvP match and that is HuK and NaNiwa.

DongRaeGu. Not exactly known for the best ZvP. His ZvT knowledge and general grasp on the matchup on the other hand would be beneficial for a Terran player. ZvP is probably DRG's achilles' heel as well as his ZvZ. Plus if you wanted a Zerg practice partner out of any Zerg in the world, NesTea would have had to be it for ZvP and ZvZ.

Keen and Noblesse aren't exactly known for the best TvP either. Then again, TvP is in a dire state metagame wise in Korea and NaNi will need all the practice he can get against variations of 111 and bio aggression.



Man, you suck. You honestly sitting there whining about Naniwa having to train with some of the absolute best players in the world? Jesus. The only better house Nani could be training in is with IM.
Lt.Roosevelt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden84 Posts
September 22 2011 10:13 GMT
#456
On September 22 2011 19:05 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 18:35 haitike wrote:
On September 22 2011 18:23 Night Eyes wrote:
I'm happy for Naniwa but I'm sad for Dignitas, they had 3 players in Korea and now one of them left...
Apart form the MVP team house I wonder what Naniwa gains form this, money isn't something I'm looking at since I'm sure Dignitas would have payed him well too.

All this aside: Nani fighting!!!!


You are understimating practicing PvP with Genius, PvZ with Donraegu, and PvT with Keen/Noblesse. And the other players. In a korean training environment.

He gains enough.

Genius. Not exactly known as the greatest in PvP. Practicing against somebody like EG'HuK, Liquid'HerO or oGsMC would have been more beneficial for him. He may have beaten Inca in a PvP, but so has MC. And for MC, PvP is EZ PZ. To my knowledge, only two people have actually beaten him in a broadcasted PvP match and that is HuK and NaNiwa.

DongRaeGu. Not exactly known for the best ZvP. His ZvT knowledge and general grasp on the matchup on the other hand would be beneficial for a Terran player. ZvP is probably DRG's achilles' heel as well as his ZvZ. Plus if you wanted a Zerg practice partner out of any Zerg in the world, NesTea would have had to be it for ZvP and ZvZ.

Keen and Noblesse aren't exactly known for the best TvP either. Then again, TvP is in a dire state metagame wise in Korea and NaNi will need all the practice he can get against variations of 111 and bio aggression.


Pretty much exactly what I thought when I saw he was going to coL. IM would probably have been a better choice for his skill to improve as much as possible, but at the same time the reason he chose coL was probably because he got a good salary and he can fly to foreign events while still practicing with decent Koreans.

Who knows, maybe the fact that he was in the MVP house already affected his decision as well, hopefully he is getting along with the players really well which could definitely be a factor.
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
September 22 2011 10:17 GMT
#457
On September 22 2011 08:32 Sandro wrote:
Complexity loses Stephano, gets a better and more dedicated player in the end anyway!


I quite disagree with this. Stephano has been improving a lot lately, whereas Naniwa seems to be giving up. It takes little to no resistance for Naniwa to be down on himself. Stephano on the other hand is pushing the limits for what zergs can do. (Watch his games vs. MMA )
Flaf?
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
September 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#458
its quite cute to read everything written here, i really enjoy the support im getting and i listen to the concerns people think there are. MVP is one of the teams that made it to the GSTL playoffs which should prove that they are a team with many good ppl. and especially DRG. It is true that i have been unmotivated a bit which has shown in my results because of protoss insane downfall the last couple of weeks / months. But with a new patch and new possibilitys and especially with many other protoss players here to talk to about the game im sure my motivation will rise through the roof. I am much better now than when i placed high in homestory cup etc, I just need to play alot more and adjust perfectly to their style here to be more consistent and win more games, Also balance affects quite a lot atm i think we can clearly say that protoss is by far the worst race at the moment.
Progamer
Dikkbutt
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden193 Posts
September 22 2011 10:32 GMT
#459
Jefla köbelag
howdy
Teddeh
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden6 Posts
September 22 2011 10:32 GMT
#460
Naniwa fighting! Gl in korea bro
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