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I really do not get this. The 8 invites and 8 online qualifiers will be put in 4 groups of 4, and out of them everyone will be seeded into the championship braket? So the pool play results do not matter at all? Or are the 24 Bo3s played just for placements in the champinship bracket? Seems reallly pointless to me.
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This is shaping up to be a really great event. Can't wait to get out to Atlantic City and get to work.
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On September 22 2011 03:28 Choboo wrote: Stephano - Ret - Hero - MMA It's like people forget that MC has placed top 3 in every foreigner lan he has ever attended except dreamhack summer, slumping in Korea or not :/.
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Great to see Mc. But i dont like the format. Seems like Group play will be boring, because it is just for seeding.
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On September 22 2011 03:41 Sea_Food wrote:![[image loading]](http://oyster.ignimgs.com/static/ignmedia/sites/www.ign.com/img/default/proleague/ipl3/ipl3_infographic_colors7b.png) I really do not get this. The 8 invites and 8 online qualifiers will be put in 4 groups of 4, and out of them everyone will be seeded into the championship braket? So the pool play results do not matter at all? Or are the 24 Bo3s played just for placements in the champinship bracket? Seems reallly pointless to me.
Seeding is not pointless.
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Can someone explain what the point of the group play is? Everyone will get through to the playoffs no matter how they do in their group, and I'm presuming that all the players from the groups will face players from the open bracket in their first round.
edit: looks like someone beat me to this question already
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Thanks IGN, looking forward to this.
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On September 22 2011 03:43 Ownos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 03:41 Sea_Food wrote:![[image loading]](http://oyster.ignimgs.com/static/ignmedia/sites/www.ign.com/img/default/proleague/ipl3/ipl3_infographic_colors7b.png) I really do not get this. The 8 invites and 8 online qualifiers will be put in 4 groups of 4, and out of them everyone will be seeded into the championship braket? So the pool play results do not matter at all? Or are the 24 Bo3s played just for placements in the champinship bracket? Seems reallly pointless to me. Seeding is not pointless.
Well no matter do you get first or last in your group you will still face a random player from the open tournament anyway. Also loosing games on purpose could become viable for some players if they dont want to get placed near a player that got off from an already decided group.
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On September 22 2011 03:43 Ownos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 03:41 Sea_Food wrote:![[image loading]](http://oyster.ignimgs.com/static/ignmedia/sites/www.ign.com/img/default/proleague/ipl3/ipl3_infographic_colors7b.png) I really do not get this. The 8 invites and 8 online qualifiers will be put in 4 groups of 4, and out of them everyone will be seeded into the championship braket? So the pool play results do not matter at all? Or are the 24 Bo3s played just for placements in the champinship bracket? Seems reallly pointless to me. Seeding is not pointless.
In this case it is since you're only seeded in relation to the other players in your group and you won't be playing anyone from the other groups right away anyway. The seeding won't make more of a difference than the group draw, which is probably arbitrary.
If you win your group you probably get to play the winner of another group one round later instead. It's not a big difference considering the quality of players, and it seems weird to play so many Bo3s just for such little gain.
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WOOOOW.
Gotta say IGN, the first person streams are fuckin' sexy! Been missing them since BW, and I never liked the replay first person view cause it doesn't have the cursor bouncing in and out everywhere.
HUGE PROPS TO IGN! MLG, GOMTV: Watch out now!
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Yeah! IPL3 is going to be so awesome!!! Really looking forward to it.
On September 22 2011 03:21 Kira__ wrote: Wizards of the Coast? How are they involved :o My thoughts exactly. Maybe they try to pull some SC players that are frustrated with there low APM to play their strategy card game. Maybe something completely different, because i haven't followed what they are doing since i stopped playing Magic 5...6 years ago. Are they still owned by Hasbro?
EDIT> Awesome that the panels will be streamed as well. I'm actually really interested in those panels.
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One zerg, two terrans and a protoss in each group >.>
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On September 22 2011 03:49 Stanlot wrote: One zerg, two terrans and a protoss in each group >.>
Well when you open the qualifiers to Korea...
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On September 22 2011 03:41 Sea_Food wrote:![[image loading]](http://oyster.ignimgs.com/static/ignmedia/sites/www.ign.com/img/default/proleague/ipl3/ipl3_infographic_colors7b.png) I really do not get this. The 8 invites and 8 online qualifiers will be put in 4 groups of 4, and out of them everyone will be seeded into the championship braket? So the pool play results do not matter at all? Or are the 24 Bo3s played just for placements in the champinship bracket? Seems reallly pointless to me. If this is true, that's pretty retarded. Why not have double elim or something that makes sense instead?
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On September 22 2011 03:28 Alex.IGN wrote:Haha yes, we had heard they were announcing later today, didn't realize it was out already! No worries. Definitely looking forward to this. October 9th is my 20th birthday and I can't think of any better way to spend it!
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Seeding is important since there will be many top foreign pros (such as Kiwikaki and Sheth) and top Korean pros in the open bracket, and you'd want to get matched up against lesser players. If you win your group, you won't have to play another group winner until quite far in the bracket. If you finish last in your group, you could play a group winner or open bracket winner in the first or second round.
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United States530 Posts
My personal opinion on the groups for seeding.
If you were invited to come play in a 32-man single elimination event, would you be comfortable playing someone out of the open bracket for your tournament life? I feel that the group play will at least give them a sense that they came and showed some good games.
Consider the NASL live event where players flew around the world just to come lose a single best of 3 and be done for the weekend. At least with group play, these players will have a chance to play against some of the world's best players and know that they are totally in control of where they will end up in the championship bracket. Winning your group ensures that you will not face the other three "best group players" until far later in the championship bracket.
I think it's better for the players, not to mention the viewers who get to enjoy these insanely awesome matchups. =)
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United States1050 Posts
On September 22 2011 03:49 Stanlot wrote: One zerg, two terrans and a protoss in each group >.>
^____________________^
You noticed 
Also no team on team violence.
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On September 22 2011 03:48 hugman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 03:43 Ownos wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 Sea_Food wrote:![[image loading]](http://oyster.ignimgs.com/static/ignmedia/sites/www.ign.com/img/default/proleague/ipl3/ipl3_infographic_colors7b.png) I really do not get this. The 8 invites and 8 online qualifiers will be put in 4 groups of 4, and out of them everyone will be seeded into the championship braket? So the pool play results do not matter at all? Or are the 24 Bo3s played just for placements in the champinship bracket? Seems reallly pointless to me. Seeding is not pointless. In this case it is since you're only seeded in relation to the other players in your group and you won't be playing anyone from the other groups right away anyway. The seeding won't make more of a difference than the group draw, which is probably arbitrary. If you win your group you probably get to play the winner of another group one round later instead. It's not a big difference considering the quality of players, and it seems weird to play so many Bo3s just for such little gain.
Yeah, it's not as HYPED as the potential of being eliminated, but you can't say pointless. It helps players have a higher chance of advancing farther and a higher chance the finals will have the best two players in the tournament. Advancing farther for players = more money. It would be dumb if the two best players face off in the first round. Double elimination solves this too, but this is a single elimination tournament.
On September 22 2011 03:47 Sea_Food wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 03:43 Ownos wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 Sea_Food wrote:![[image loading]](http://oyster.ignimgs.com/static/ignmedia/sites/www.ign.com/img/default/proleague/ipl3/ipl3_infographic_colors7b.png) I really do not get this. The 8 invites and 8 online qualifiers will be put in 4 groups of 4, and out of them everyone will be seeded into the championship braket? So the pool play results do not matter at all? Or are the 24 Bo3s played just for placements in the champinship bracket? Seems reallly pointless to me. Seeding is not pointless. Well no matter do you get first or last in your group you will still face a random player from the open tournament anyway. Also loosing games on purpose could become viable for some players if they dont want to get placed near a player that got off from an already decided group.
The pic would hint that open bracket players are seeded at the other end of the bracket. An open player will likely not face any players from groups until the finals. The open bracket players are likely seeded based on their finish too.
If you follow any real life sports, you will know seeding means a lot and yes people do lose on purpose to get a different seed (but of course they will hide this fact and mostly just finger pointing by fans).
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Everything looking so awesome, nice work.
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