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wideye
Profile Joined June 2010
United States209 Posts
September 21 2011 19:17 GMT
#81
wow. incredible.
slim pickens
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
September 21 2011 19:17 GMT
#82
On September 22 2011 04:01 Joshy.IGN wrote:
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On September 22 2011 03:59 Ownos wrote:
The pic would hint that open bracket players are seeded at the other end of the bracket. An open player will likely not face any invitees until the finals. The open bracket players are likely seeded based on their finish too.

If you follow any real life sports, you will know seeding means a lot and yes people do lose on purpose to get a different seed (but of course they will hide this fact and mostly just finger pointing by fans).

This is all correct. The open bracket winner (aka the STRONGEST open player) will be facing one of the four LOWEST group players. The group winners will be facing the 13, 14, 15, 16 seeds from the open bracket, which could easily be mid-tier players.


But wait how will that work then afterwards? Using bracket knowledge I know that what you just said makes things 1000 times worse. You either have to make the open bracket winner potentially face a group play winner in the Ro16, OR you will have to place the group play 4th placers far away from the group play winners.

You either have to make open bracket winner get a much worse spot to reach Ro8 of championship bracket, than players that got spots 5-12 from open bracket. Or you have to give players who finish last in their group play better spot to reach Ro8 than players that got 2nd or 3rd from their group.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 21 2011 19:18 GMT
#83
rooting for ryung, that guy deserves a big title!
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 21 2011 19:18 GMT
#84
Wait so how dAppolo get a Visa but not Tbiscuit O.O?

So stoked for this event sick players gonna be there. Hope you get a big crowd show up too!

Tzain and Pokerface terran wwwhhhaaiiting! (Ryung)
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
thingULTRA
Profile Joined January 2011
United States48 Posts
September 21 2011 19:19 GMT
#85
very cool to see some legitimate new sponsors on this tournament, thanks to all sponsors, it doesn't go unnoticed
"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you"
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
September 21 2011 19:19 GMT
#86
i dont see stephano losing a game in his group
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
Mindtwist
Profile Joined December 2010
Lithuania108 Posts
September 21 2011 19:20 GMT
#87
I like how every group seems equally hard.

Will be interesting to watch
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 21 2011 19:20 GMT
#88
Incredible groups and incredible players. So happy I'm going to be there in person helping out!
Very excited because there are no SlayerS teamkills in the groups!
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Nomad-
Profile Joined February 2011
119 Posts
September 21 2011 19:20 GMT
#89
I see a ryung vs MMA finals with alive and thorzain going far.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 21 2011 19:20 GMT
#90
On September 22 2011 04:18 Benjef wrote:
Wait so how dAppolo get a Visa but not Tbiscuit O.O?


Pretty sure he'll get the visa approved, even if IGN (and or Blizzard) has to spread some of their influence.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 21 2011 19:21 GMT
#91
On September 22 2011 04:05 Sea_Food wrote:
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On September 22 2011 03:58 Joshy.IGN wrote:
My personal opinion on the groups for seeding.

If you were invited to come play in a 32-man single elimination event, would you be comfortable playing someone out of the open bracket for your tournament life? I feel that the group play will at least give them a sense that they came and showed some good games.

Consider the NASL live event where players flew around the world just to come lose a single best of 3 and be done for the weekend. At least with group play, these players will have a chance to play against some of the world's best players and know that they are totally in control of where they will end up in the championship bracket. Winning your group ensures that you will not face the other three "best group players" until far later in the championship bracket.

I think it's better for the players, not to mention the viewers who get to enjoy these insanely awesome matchups. =)


Well its still feels very meh, that I am guranteed to have acses to watch the top 16 players play atleast 4 best of 3s each, out of them 3 are bacicly pointless. I really think that if you wanted to avoid the NASLs "I flied 20hours here to play total of 10minutes", you should have still made group play that actually matters.

Example: You could have invited 10 + 10 from qualifiers and made 4 groups of 5, out of which top 4 continue.
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On September 22 2011 03:59 Ownos wrote:
If you follow any real life sports, you will know seeding means a lot and yes people do lose on purpose to get a different seed (but of course they will hide this fact and mostly just finger pointing by fans).


I follow a lot of real sports and other competive stuff, and I have never seen this everyone out of every group advances into same round of final bracket.


It doesn't really matter the # advancing. Group play to determine seeding is not uncommon. The regular season in the NBA determines seed, but not all advance of course to the playoffs. Like I said, because of the lack of elimination factor, it's not as exciting, but definitely not pointless.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 21 2011 19:21 GMT
#92
The atmosphere is going to be absolutely insane there. This is shaping up to be the best Western event yet. Congratulations to all those working at IGN, and I am looking forward to October 6th.
BoomNasty
Profile Joined June 2011
United States265 Posts
September 21 2011 19:21 GMT
#93
Just curious, is there a specific reason that can be said as to why day9 wont be a commentator?
I like..
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 21 2011 19:23 GMT
#94
On September 22 2011 04:20 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:18 Benjef wrote:
Wait so how dAppolo get a Visa but not Tbiscuit O.O?


Pretty sure he'll get the visa approved, even if IGN (and or Blizzard) has to spread some of their influence.

Maybe they're scared of whats under the top hat...
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 21 2011 19:23 GMT
#95
Im so excited for this ;D!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 21 2011 19:24 GMT
#96
On September 22 2011 04:21 BoomNasty wrote:
Just curious, is there a specific reason that can be said as to why day9 wont be a commentator?


Cause... why does every event have to hire Day[9]? It's not like it's a travesty when he doesn't cast a tournament, I think we'll be more than entertained by the casters (who have been casting for IPL for quite a while now and deserve the chance not to be overshadowed by Day[9]'s presence).

Plus, MLG, IPL, and Blizzcon are within weekends of each other so there's that.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
HoldenR
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands256 Posts
September 21 2011 19:24 GMT
#97
On September 22 2011 04:17 Sea_Food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:01 Joshy.IGN wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:59 Ownos wrote:
The pic would hint that open bracket players are seeded at the other end of the bracket. An open player will likely not face any invitees until the finals. The open bracket players are likely seeded based on their finish too.

If you follow any real life sports, you will know seeding means a lot and yes people do lose on purpose to get a different seed (but of course they will hide this fact and mostly just finger pointing by fans).

This is all correct. The open bracket winner (aka the STRONGEST open player) will be facing one of the four LOWEST group players. The group winners will be facing the 13, 14, 15, 16 seeds from the open bracket, which could easily be mid-tier players.


But wait how will that work then afterwards? Using bracket knowledge I know that what you just said makes things 1000 times worse. You either have to make the open bracket winner potentially face a group play winner in the Ro16, OR you will have to place the group play 4th placers far away from the group play winners.

You either have to make open bracket winner get a much worse spot to reach Ro8 of championship bracket, than players that got spots 5-12 from open bracket. Or you have to give players who finish last in their group play better spot to reach Ro8 than players that got 2nd or 3rd from their group.


Draw yourself a picture, because you seem to be missing it. They're doing it quite well, and despite all of your credentials in running tournaments and making them large successes, I'm positive they'll do well without your input.
Vendor
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada115 Posts
September 21 2011 19:25 GMT
#98
Really nice groups, can't wait for this event! :D
BoomNasty
Profile Joined June 2011
United States265 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 19:27:24
September 21 2011 19:25 GMT
#99
On September 22 2011 04:24 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:21 BoomNasty wrote:
Just curious, is there a specific reason that can be said as to why day9 wont be a commentator?


Cause... why does every event have to hire Day[9]? It's not like it's a travesty when he doesn't cast a tournament, I think we'll be more than entertained by the casters (who have been casting for IPL for quite a while now and deserve the chance not to be overshadowed by Day[9]'s presence).

Plus, MLG, IPL, and Blizzcon are within weekends of each other so there's that.


I think you are taking more out of what I said than you should. I never said I was happy/unhappy he wouldn't be there. I was just curious if they asked him or something of that nature.

edit: also i dont think any of those casters are very entertaining, but thats not the point here
I like..
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 21 2011 19:26 GMT
#100
On September 22 2011 04:23 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:20 Gamegene wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:18 Benjef wrote:
Wait so how dAppolo get a Visa but not Tbiscuit O.O?


Pretty sure he'll get the visa approved, even if IGN (and or Blizzard) has to spread some of their influence.

Maybe they're scared of whats under the top hat...


I'd be scared of TB too.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
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