• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:10
CEST 14:10
KST 21:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL24Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak15
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 19-25): Hindsight is 20/20?0DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack8[BSL20] RO20 Group Stage2EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)22Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3
StarCraft 2
General
CN community: Firefly accused of suspicious activities The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL Karma, Domino Effect, and how it relates to SC2. How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN
Tourneys
EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1) DreamHack Dallas 2025 Last Chance Qualifiers for OlimoLeague 2024 Winter [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group B [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group A
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat
Brood War
General
Battle.net is not working Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BW General Discussion Which player typ excels at which race or match up? Practice Partners (Official)
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET [BSL20] RO20 Group D - Sunday 20:00 CET [BSL20] RO20 Group B - Saturday 20:00 CET
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Monster Hunter Wilds Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread All you football fans (soccer)! European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Yes Sir! How Commanding Impr…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 15041 users

IPL 3 Groups, Stream Info, LoL and much more! - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
388 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 18 19 20 Next All
wideye
Profile Joined June 2010
United States209 Posts
September 21 2011 19:17 GMT
#81
wow. incredible.
slim pickens
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
September 21 2011 19:17 GMT
#82
On September 22 2011 04:01 Joshy.IGN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 03:59 Ownos wrote:
The pic would hint that open bracket players are seeded at the other end of the bracket. An open player will likely not face any invitees until the finals. The open bracket players are likely seeded based on their finish too.

If you follow any real life sports, you will know seeding means a lot and yes people do lose on purpose to get a different seed (but of course they will hide this fact and mostly just finger pointing by fans).

This is all correct. The open bracket winner (aka the STRONGEST open player) will be facing one of the four LOWEST group players. The group winners will be facing the 13, 14, 15, 16 seeds from the open bracket, which could easily be mid-tier players.


But wait how will that work then afterwards? Using bracket knowledge I know that what you just said makes things 1000 times worse. You either have to make the open bracket winner potentially face a group play winner in the Ro16, OR you will have to place the group play 4th placers far away from the group play winners.

You either have to make open bracket winner get a much worse spot to reach Ro8 of championship bracket, than players that got spots 5-12 from open bracket. Or you have to give players who finish last in their group play better spot to reach Ro8 than players that got 2nd or 3rd from their group.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 21 2011 19:18 GMT
#83
rooting for ryung, that guy deserves a big title!
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 21 2011 19:18 GMT
#84
Wait so how dAppolo get a Visa but not Tbiscuit O.O?

So stoked for this event sick players gonna be there. Hope you get a big crowd show up too!

Tzain and Pokerface terran wwwhhhaaiiting! (Ryung)
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
thingULTRA
Profile Joined January 2011
United States48 Posts
September 21 2011 19:19 GMT
#85
very cool to see some legitimate new sponsors on this tournament, thanks to all sponsors, it doesn't go unnoticed
"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you"
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
September 21 2011 19:19 GMT
#86
i dont see stephano losing a game in his group
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
Mindtwist
Profile Joined December 2010
Lithuania108 Posts
September 21 2011 19:20 GMT
#87
I like how every group seems equally hard.

Will be interesting to watch
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 21 2011 19:20 GMT
#88
Incredible groups and incredible players. So happy I'm going to be there in person helping out!
Very excited because there are no SlayerS teamkills in the groups!
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Nomad-
Profile Joined February 2011
119 Posts
September 21 2011 19:20 GMT
#89
I see a ryung vs MMA finals with alive and thorzain going far.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 21 2011 19:20 GMT
#90
On September 22 2011 04:18 Benjef wrote:
Wait so how dAppolo get a Visa but not Tbiscuit O.O?


Pretty sure he'll get the visa approved, even if IGN (and or Blizzard) has to spread some of their influence.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 21 2011 19:21 GMT
#91
On September 22 2011 04:05 Sea_Food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 03:58 Joshy.IGN wrote:
My personal opinion on the groups for seeding.

If you were invited to come play in a 32-man single elimination event, would you be comfortable playing someone out of the open bracket for your tournament life? I feel that the group play will at least give them a sense that they came and showed some good games.

Consider the NASL live event where players flew around the world just to come lose a single best of 3 and be done for the weekend. At least with group play, these players will have a chance to play against some of the world's best players and know that they are totally in control of where they will end up in the championship bracket. Winning your group ensures that you will not face the other three "best group players" until far later in the championship bracket.

I think it's better for the players, not to mention the viewers who get to enjoy these insanely awesome matchups. =)


Well its still feels very meh, that I am guranteed to have acses to watch the top 16 players play atleast 4 best of 3s each, out of them 3 are bacicly pointless. I really think that if you wanted to avoid the NASLs "I flied 20hours here to play total of 10minutes", you should have still made group play that actually matters.

Example: You could have invited 10 + 10 from qualifiers and made 4 groups of 5, out of which top 4 continue.
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 03:59 Ownos wrote:
If you follow any real life sports, you will know seeding means a lot and yes people do lose on purpose to get a different seed (but of course they will hide this fact and mostly just finger pointing by fans).


I follow a lot of real sports and other competive stuff, and I have never seen this everyone out of every group advances into same round of final bracket.


It doesn't really matter the # advancing. Group play to determine seeding is not uncommon. The regular season in the NBA determines seed, but not all advance of course to the playoffs. Like I said, because of the lack of elimination factor, it's not as exciting, but definitely not pointless.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 21 2011 19:21 GMT
#92
The atmosphere is going to be absolutely insane there. This is shaping up to be the best Western event yet. Congratulations to all those working at IGN, and I am looking forward to October 6th.
BoomNasty
Profile Joined June 2011
United States265 Posts
September 21 2011 19:21 GMT
#93
Just curious, is there a specific reason that can be said as to why day9 wont be a commentator?
I like..
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 21 2011 19:23 GMT
#94
On September 22 2011 04:20 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:18 Benjef wrote:
Wait so how dAppolo get a Visa but not Tbiscuit O.O?


Pretty sure he'll get the visa approved, even if IGN (and or Blizzard) has to spread some of their influence.

Maybe they're scared of whats under the top hat...
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 21 2011 19:23 GMT
#95
Im so excited for this ;D!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 21 2011 19:24 GMT
#96
On September 22 2011 04:21 BoomNasty wrote:
Just curious, is there a specific reason that can be said as to why day9 wont be a commentator?


Cause... why does every event have to hire Day[9]? It's not like it's a travesty when he doesn't cast a tournament, I think we'll be more than entertained by the casters (who have been casting for IPL for quite a while now and deserve the chance not to be overshadowed by Day[9]'s presence).

Plus, MLG, IPL, and Blizzcon are within weekends of each other so there's that.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
HoldenR
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands256 Posts
September 21 2011 19:24 GMT
#97
On September 22 2011 04:17 Sea_Food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:01 Joshy.IGN wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:59 Ownos wrote:
The pic would hint that open bracket players are seeded at the other end of the bracket. An open player will likely not face any invitees until the finals. The open bracket players are likely seeded based on their finish too.

If you follow any real life sports, you will know seeding means a lot and yes people do lose on purpose to get a different seed (but of course they will hide this fact and mostly just finger pointing by fans).

This is all correct. The open bracket winner (aka the STRONGEST open player) will be facing one of the four LOWEST group players. The group winners will be facing the 13, 14, 15, 16 seeds from the open bracket, which could easily be mid-tier players.


But wait how will that work then afterwards? Using bracket knowledge I know that what you just said makes things 1000 times worse. You either have to make the open bracket winner potentially face a group play winner in the Ro16, OR you will have to place the group play 4th placers far away from the group play winners.

You either have to make open bracket winner get a much worse spot to reach Ro8 of championship bracket, than players that got spots 5-12 from open bracket. Or you have to give players who finish last in their group play better spot to reach Ro8 than players that got 2nd or 3rd from their group.


Draw yourself a picture, because you seem to be missing it. They're doing it quite well, and despite all of your credentials in running tournaments and making them large successes, I'm positive they'll do well without your input.
Vendor
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada115 Posts
September 21 2011 19:25 GMT
#98
Really nice groups, can't wait for this event! :D
BoomNasty
Profile Joined June 2011
United States265 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 19:27:24
September 21 2011 19:25 GMT
#99
On September 22 2011 04:24 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:21 BoomNasty wrote:
Just curious, is there a specific reason that can be said as to why day9 wont be a commentator?


Cause... why does every event have to hire Day[9]? It's not like it's a travesty when he doesn't cast a tournament, I think we'll be more than entertained by the casters (who have been casting for IPL for quite a while now and deserve the chance not to be overshadowed by Day[9]'s presence).

Plus, MLG, IPL, and Blizzcon are within weekends of each other so there's that.


I think you are taking more out of what I said than you should. I never said I was happy/unhappy he wouldn't be there. I was just curious if they asked him or something of that nature.

edit: also i dont think any of those casters are very entertaining, but thats not the point here
I like..
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 21 2011 19:26 GMT
#100
On September 22 2011 04:23 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:20 Gamegene wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:18 Benjef wrote:
Wait so how dAppolo get a Visa but not Tbiscuit O.O?


Pretty sure he'll get the visa approved, even if IGN (and or Blizzard) has to spread some of their influence.

Maybe they're scared of whats under the top hat...


I'd be scared of TB too.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 18 19 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 50m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 309
MindelVK 41
EnDerr 31
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 25887
Britney 23211
Rain 8333
Calm 8004
firebathero 3985
actioN 747
Zeus 494
EffOrt 285
Mini 255
Last 218
[ Show more ]
Bonyth 70
Liquid`Ret 59
Hyun 56
Mind 55
sSak 40
Killer 35
Icarus 20
hero 19
GoRush 18
Backho 18
Barracks 15
Sacsri 13
soO 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Movie 12
HiyA 11
Shinee 10
Noble 9
IntoTheRainbow 8
SilentControl 6
Bale 4
Dota 2
Dendi3128
qojqva1654
XcaliburYe816
Gorgc437
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 445
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor357
Other Games
singsing3244
B2W.Neo1802
DeMusliM441
Fuzer 222
Hui .220
XaKoH 151
KnowMe47
Has20
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick786
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 14
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 96
• MJG 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV766
League of Legends
• Jankos2719
• Nemesis2647
Upcoming Events
Road to EWC
3h 50m
BSL Season 20
5h 50m
Sziky vs Razz
Sziky vs StRyKeR
Sziky vs DragOn
Sziky vs Tech
Razz vs StRyKeR
Razz vs DragOn
Razz vs Tech
DragOn vs Tech
Online Event
15h 50m
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
Road to EWC
20h 50m
Road to EWC
1d 3h
BSL Season 20
1d 5h
Bonyth vs Doodle
Bonyth vs izu
Bonyth vs MadiNho
Bonyth vs TerrOr
MadiNho vs TerrOr
Doodle vs izu
Doodle vs MadiNho
Doodle vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Bellum Gens Elite
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Bellum Gens Elite
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Bellum Gens Elite
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-28
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.