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On September 22 2011 00:09 Oktyabr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 23:55 Clbull wrote:On September 21 2011 23:27 rasnj wrote:On September 21 2011 23:20 0neder wrote:
Wait, the title was changed. So he's not ON TSL? Why don't any of these foreigners actually JOIN the team instead of staying for some insignificant period of time? At least Fenix has taken the next step along with HuK and Jinro. Go Fenix! Probably because he wasn't offered to join. He was likely offered to train with them, and if he proves a great player they want on their team they can ask him to join. Anyway I don't see what the big deal is. How does practicing at the house differ from being an official member? He has access to the same training partners. He is not good enough to get a salary from tsl either way. If he is not good enough to be offered a spot he would not get to play in gstl either way. I have a hard time seeing how the situations differ. If major becomes good enough to talk about salary or being fielded in gstl I'm sure he'll be offered an official spot on the team. I think they'll ask him to join eventually, based on these facts: - TSL lost four of their star players to other teams, FruitDealer and Trickster to StarTale, Rain to Fnatic-MSI and most notably PuMa to Evil Geniuses.
- MajOr, or Terran as he is otherwised called is one of the greatest foreigners in the Starcraft 2 scene. His only issue is his bad manner, which got him removed from a few teams, most notably ROOT and Sixjax. Plus Sixjax haven't really supported him much either, only sending him to one MLG and not to Korea like they promised.
- As a result of the losses, TSL are probably desperate for a larger roster.
TSL losing Fruitdealer and Tester was probably the best thing that has ever happened to them, minus the drama. If they really, really need a larger roster, they could always recruit their own local talent (truck tons of them lying around), and they come without a language barrier. No disrespect to MajOr, but until he actually achieves something in at least Code A, TSL doesn't really have an incentive to recruit him. Practice partner, sure. Member? Too tough to call.They don't have much cash lying around anyway.
What if they needed a foreigner that, with clide's help will win tournaments outside korea. Ever thinked of that?
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grr quiet nerds that practice alot...makes me so Fing mad.
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On September 22 2011 00:19 Shockk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote:On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote:
I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character. Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character. Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance. - Some people may argue that skill justifies that. I say it doesn't, I say there's a line that he long has crossed a long time ago.
- Some will say that he's still young and will grow up and mature in the future. You know what? I was 14-18 at some point too, and I managed to not be a total jerk at that age, on- and offline. I had no respect or understanding for such people back then and I certainly don't now.
- Others might just blindly hope for a foreign player to rise to korean levels regardless of the character behind it. I'm not sure we really want our "western ambassadors" be infamous for their manners instead of being famous for their prowess.
I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him.
I totally agree with you. Also he looks too shy and closed for a person who is so arrogant, I started to doubt his social skills after watching the video. I think he should be careful and should try hard to be well with others, TSL House is not any regular battle.net channel.
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Terran should have been in korea a couple years ago with BW, now that he's finally there he should be able to focus and REALLY start to shine.
This is what he has been aiming for, so let's see what he does with it now.
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On September 22 2011 00:27 Mannified wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 00:09 Oktyabr wrote:On September 21 2011 23:55 Clbull wrote:On September 21 2011 23:27 rasnj wrote:On September 21 2011 23:20 0neder wrote:
Wait, the title was changed. So he's not ON TSL? Why don't any of these foreigners actually JOIN the team instead of staying for some insignificant period of time? At least Fenix has taken the next step along with HuK and Jinro. Go Fenix! Probably because he wasn't offered to join. He was likely offered to train with them, and if he proves a great player they want on their team they can ask him to join. Anyway I don't see what the big deal is. How does practicing at the house differ from being an official member? He has access to the same training partners. He is not good enough to get a salary from tsl either way. If he is not good enough to be offered a spot he would not get to play in gstl either way. I have a hard time seeing how the situations differ. If major becomes good enough to talk about salary or being fielded in gstl I'm sure he'll be offered an official spot on the team. I think they'll ask him to join eventually, based on these facts: - TSL lost four of their star players to other teams, FruitDealer and Trickster to StarTale, Rain to Fnatic-MSI and most notably PuMa to Evil Geniuses.
- MajOr, or Terran as he is otherwised called is one of the greatest foreigners in the Starcraft 2 scene. His only issue is his bad manner, which got him removed from a few teams, most notably ROOT and Sixjax. Plus Sixjax haven't really supported him much either, only sending him to one MLG and not to Korea like they promised.
- As a result of the losses, TSL are probably desperate for a larger roster.
TSL losing Fruitdealer and Tester was probably the best thing that has ever happened to them, minus the drama. If they really, really need a larger roster, they could always recruit their own local talent (truck tons of them lying around), and they come without a language barrier. No disrespect to MajOr, but until he actually achieves something in at least Code A, TSL doesn't really have an incentive to recruit him. Practice partner, sure. Member? Too tough to call.They don't have much cash lying around anyway. What if they needed a foreigner that, with clide's help will win tournaments outside korea. Ever thinked of that?
They couldn't even afford to fly their own players out. You strongly believe that MajOr, totally unproven in the Korean scene, would be a better investment to send out of Korea as compared to aLive, Clide, JYP or Revival?
Like I said, him being a practice partner makes sense on many levels. As a member, not so much.
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Hmm... when I went to bed the title said "MajOr joins TSL." Now he's just practicing there, eh?
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On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote:
I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character. Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks
Hahaha, I can certainly agree with this. People care more about their drama than actual skill.
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Wow, I just watched a little of the vid and now I really want TSL to achieve awesome things!
So happy they got rid the 2 troublemakers - FD and Tester.
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with friends like Artosis, you dont need parents
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A guy that looks like that shouldn't be so rude on the internet.
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On September 22 2011 00:41 FabledIntegral wrote:
Hmm... when I went to bed the title said "MajOr joins TSL." Now he's just practicing there, eh?
I assume they are confident he will do well and invite him when he produces results... or when they feel comfortable. To be able to practice at a house should improve his play.
Don't wanna jump the gun.
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Doubt that he'll achieve anything really, hasn't impressed me at all.
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Despite me not liking MajOrs antics I will wish him the best as a player.
I do hope living abroad will help him grow up and turn over a new leaf.
If he blows this opportunity well than ... he should move on and do something else with his life.
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On September 22 2011 00:27 Mannified wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 00:09 Oktyabr wrote:On September 21 2011 23:55 Clbull wrote:On September 21 2011 23:27 rasnj wrote:On September 21 2011 23:20 0neder wrote:
Wait, the title was changed. So he's not ON TSL? Why don't any of these foreigners actually JOIN the team instead of staying for some insignificant period of time? At least Fenix has taken the next step along with HuK and Jinro. Go Fenix! Probably because he wasn't offered to join. He was likely offered to train with them, and if he proves a great player they want on their team they can ask him to join. Anyway I don't see what the big deal is. How does practicing at the house differ from being an official member? He has access to the same training partners. He is not good enough to get a salary from tsl either way. If he is not good enough to be offered a spot he would not get to play in gstl either way. I have a hard time seeing how the situations differ. If major becomes good enough to talk about salary or being fielded in gstl I'm sure he'll be offered an official spot on the team. I think they'll ask him to join eventually, based on these facts: - TSL lost four of their star players to other teams, FruitDealer and Trickster to StarTale, Rain to Fnatic-MSI and most notably PuMa to Evil Geniuses.
- MajOr, or Terran as he is otherwised called is one of the greatest foreigners in the Starcraft 2 scene. His only issue is his bad manner, which got him removed from a few teams, most notably ROOT and Sixjax. Plus Sixjax haven't really supported him much either, only sending him to one MLG and not to Korea like they promised.
- As a result of the losses, TSL are probably desperate for a larger roster.
TSL losing Fruitdealer and Tester was probably the best thing that has ever happened to them, minus the drama. If they really, really need a larger roster, they could always recruit their own local talent (truck tons of them lying around), and they come without a language barrier. No disrespect to MajOr, but until he actually achieves something in at least Code A, TSL doesn't really have an incentive to recruit him. Practice partner, sure. Member? Too tough to call.They don't have much cash lying around anyway. What if they needed a foreigner that, with clide's help will win tournaments outside korea. Ever thinked of that?
I am pretty sure no one could have THINKED of that
THINKED.
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Err.. so is he ON the team or just in the house? Watching state of the game Artosis says he is IN the team..
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On September 22 2011 01:06 carloselcoco wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 00:27 Mannified wrote:On September 22 2011 00:09 Oktyabr wrote:On September 21 2011 23:55 Clbull wrote:On September 21 2011 23:27 rasnj wrote:On September 21 2011 23:20 0neder wrote:
Wait, the title was changed. So he's not ON TSL? Why don't any of these foreigners actually JOIN the team instead of staying for some insignificant period of time? At least Fenix has taken the next step along with HuK and Jinro. Go Fenix! Probably because he wasn't offered to join. He was likely offered to train with them, and if he proves a great player they want on their team they can ask him to join. Anyway I don't see what the big deal is. How does practicing at the house differ from being an official member? He has access to the same training partners. He is not good enough to get a salary from tsl either way. If he is not good enough to be offered a spot he would not get to play in gstl either way. I have a hard time seeing how the situations differ. If major becomes good enough to talk about salary or being fielded in gstl I'm sure he'll be offered an official spot on the team. I think they'll ask him to join eventually, based on these facts: - TSL lost four of their star players to other teams, FruitDealer and Trickster to StarTale, Rain to Fnatic-MSI and most notably PuMa to Evil Geniuses.
- MajOr, or Terran as he is otherwised called is one of the greatest foreigners in the Starcraft 2 scene. His only issue is his bad manner, which got him removed from a few teams, most notably ROOT and Sixjax. Plus Sixjax haven't really supported him much either, only sending him to one MLG and not to Korea like they promised.
- As a result of the losses, TSL are probably desperate for a larger roster.
TSL losing Fruitdealer and Tester was probably the best thing that has ever happened to them, minus the drama. If they really, really need a larger roster, they could always recruit their own local talent (truck tons of them lying around), and they come without a language barrier. No disrespect to MajOr, but until he actually achieves something in at least Code A, TSL doesn't really have an incentive to recruit him. Practice partner, sure. Member? Too tough to call.They don't have much cash lying around anyway. What if they needed a foreigner that, with clide's help will win tournaments outside korea. Ever thinked of that? I am pretty sure no one could have THINKED of that THINKED.
contrary to popular belive not everyones native language is english, ever THINKED of that ?
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On September 21 2011 23:02 thepuppyassassin wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Major has the patience, self-restraint, and discipline of a 3 year old..
You can't live with someone like that.
Watch.. once homesickness and the cramped living conditions start to chip away at him.. there's gonna be an international incident.. and I'm not exaggerating.
Community Headline
"Major slaps TSL coach"
It's probably going to be the other way around.
On September 21 2011 23:29 Mr Showtime wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 13:57 SenorChang wrote:
Wow, Artosis does not want to give up on major, really really going so far for him.
Really hope he appreciates what Artosis is doing for him and stays in line this time.
Wonder how it will go for TSL, hopefully majOr doesn't make it a pain for them. Artosis has noted that he sees a lot of his old self in majOr, and that's probably why he's willing to do so much. Especially since he is such a talented player, and he is only getting in his own way.
Hahah Artosis is (was?) pretty BM too. Didn't he throw a fit about a TL Open? I don't blame him for that one though.
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On September 21 2011 23:08 thepuppyassassin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 23:05 radiantshadow92 wrote:On September 21 2011 23:02 thepuppyassassin wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Major has the patience, self-restraint, and discipline of a 3 year old..
You can't live with someone like that.
Watch.. once homesickness and the cramped living conditions start to chip away at him.. there's gonna be an international incident.. and I'm not exaggerating.
Community Headline
"Major slaps TSL coach" You think a player like Major, someone who has been playing his entire childhood JUST to be as good as the Koreans, is going to get bothered by cramped living conditions? LOL His past behavior suggests.... hell yeah!
100% true, took my Delorian a few months ahead, Major is now banned from Korea. 
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If Major remains chill, this will be fantastic for everyone.
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