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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
September 21 2011 14:50 GMT
#461
major is sick good
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Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
September 21 2011 14:50 GMT
#462
On September 21 2011 23:20 0neder wrote:
Wait, the title was changed. So he's not ON TSL? Why don't any of these foreigners actually JOIN the team instead of staying for some insignificant period of time? At least Fenix has taken the next step along with HuK and Jinro. Go Fenix!

It is not his choice... Read the thread and watch the interview.
He wants to stay forever.

He does not speak for TSL though... just chillax
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 21 2011 14:52 GMT
#463
oh, okay. so major only practises with tsl and hasn't joined them yet. well that's alright too, I hope he can prove himself worthy and be picked up for a permanent slot in their team house!
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
September 21 2011 14:55 GMT
#464
On September 21 2011 23:27 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 23:20 0neder wrote:
Wait, the title was changed. So he's not ON TSL? Why don't any of these foreigners actually JOIN the team instead of staying for some insignificant period of time? At least Fenix has taken the next step along with HuK and Jinro. Go Fenix!

Probably because he wasn't offered to join. He was likely offered to train with them, and if he proves a great player they want on their team they can ask him to join.

Anyway I don't see what the big deal is. How does practicing at the house differ from being an official member? He has access to the same training partners. He is not good enough to get a salary from tsl either way. If he is not good enough to be offered a spot he would not get to play in gstl either way. I have a hard time seeing how the situations differ. If major becomes good enough to talk about salary or being fielded in gstl I'm sure he'll be offered an official spot on the team.

I think they'll ask him to join eventually, based on these facts:
  • TSL lost four of their star players to other teams, FruitDealer and Trickster to StarTale, Rain to Fnatic-MSI and most notably PuMa to Evil Geniuses.
  • MajOr, or Terran as he is otherwised called is one of the greatest foreigners in the Starcraft 2 scene. His only issue is his bad manner, which got him removed from a few teams, most notably ROOT and Sixjax. Plus Sixjax haven't really supported him much either, only sending him to one MLG and not to Korea like they promised.
  • As a result of the losses, TSL are probably desperate for a larger roster.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 14:58:03
September 21 2011 14:57 GMT
#465
On September 21 2011 23:50 Utinni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 23:20 0neder wrote:
Wait, the title was changed. So he's not ON TSL? Why don't any of these foreigners actually JOIN the team instead of staying for some insignificant period of time? At least Fenix has taken the next step along with HuK and Jinro. Go Fenix!

It is not his choice... Read the thread and watch the interview.
He wants to stay forever.

He does not speak for TSL though... just chillax

He wants to stay in Korea, however, TSL probably want to give him a trial run before they decide to recruit him.

I cannot blame him for wanting to stay to be honest. Despite Mexico being quite far from Korea, and the language barrier, MajOr would rather be at the esports mecca than the North American scene. Plus Korea is the place to be if you want to get really good at SC2. I am talking IMMvp good.
silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
September 21 2011 14:58 GMT
#466
IMO MajOr is like the biggest wild card attitude wise in the foreign scene. Hes so solid in games though. Hopefully he can stay sensible for his and artosis' sake.
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Copenap
Profile Joined October 2010
723 Posts
September 21 2011 14:58 GMT
#467
Putting all the controversy of the past beside, you really have to respect his dedication. I'm looking forward to see how he will do and I will cheer for him.
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
September 21 2011 15:00 GMT
#468
On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote:
I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character.


Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
September 21 2011 15:01 GMT
#469
On September 21 2011 23:44 Sailincieri wrote:
"MajOr, the #3 foreigner in the world by ELO ranking"

ELO ranking starts looking silly xD MajOr have no real achievements and he is #3? Great...
Other players win with koreans, get top places in big tournaments and they are not in TOP10...


I haven't taken the ELO system any serious either, I guess it's just who's hot in winnings right now or something. Because I can name many people that are better than MajOr, but I think his on a hotstreak now or something. Good for him also that this is kind of a trial instead of joining the team right away.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 21 2011 15:03 GMT
#470
On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote:
I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character.


Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks

Ambition and dedication is part of someone's character.
captainwaffles
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1050 Posts
September 21 2011 15:04 GMT
#471
Wow, this is pretty cool, I remember way back when gosiTerran always wanted to got korea... nice to see dreams come true :D
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Philo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States337 Posts
September 21 2011 15:05 GMT
#472
Isn't the first step in joining a Korean team being a practice partner? Its not like TSL has enough players for a B-Team so he basically is their B-Team.
Other people do 24 hour streams. I just let GoOdy play a Bo11 TvT. - Special Endrey
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
September 21 2011 15:09 GMT
#473
On September 21 2011 23:55 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 23:27 rasnj wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:20 0neder wrote:
Wait, the title was changed. So he's not ON TSL? Why don't any of these foreigners actually JOIN the team instead of staying for some insignificant period of time? At least Fenix has taken the next step along with HuK and Jinro. Go Fenix!

Probably because he wasn't offered to join. He was likely offered to train with them, and if he proves a great player they want on their team they can ask him to join.

Anyway I don't see what the big deal is. How does practicing at the house differ from being an official member? He has access to the same training partners. He is not good enough to get a salary from tsl either way. If he is not good enough to be offered a spot he would not get to play in gstl either way. I have a hard time seeing how the situations differ. If major becomes good enough to talk about salary or being fielded in gstl I'm sure he'll be offered an official spot on the team.

I think they'll ask him to join eventually, based on these facts:
  • TSL lost four of their star players to other teams, FruitDealer and Trickster to StarTale, Rain to Fnatic-MSI and most notably PuMa to Evil Geniuses.
  • MajOr, or Terran as he is otherwised called is one of the greatest foreigners in the Starcraft 2 scene. His only issue is his bad manner, which got him removed from a few teams, most notably ROOT and Sixjax. Plus Sixjax haven't really supported him much either, only sending him to one MLG and not to Korea like they promised.
  • As a result of the losses, TSL are probably desperate for a larger roster.




TSL losing Fruitdealer and Tester was probably the best thing that has ever happened to them, minus the drama. If they really, really need a larger roster, they could always recruit their own local talent (truck tons of them lying around), and they come without a language barrier.

No disrespect to MajOr, but until he actually achieves something in at least Code A, TSL doesn't really have an incentive to recruit him. Practice partner, sure. Member? Too tough to call.They don't have much cash lying around anyway.

ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
September 21 2011 15:09 GMT
#474
On September 22 2011 00:03 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote:
On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote:
I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character.


Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks

Ambition and dedication is part of someone's character.


What the NA scene needs are not funny SC2 personalities like Husky, HD and Destiny, nor super nice guys like Sheth who left Korea in a few weeks. But dedicated and skilled players like HuK and Major.

IdrA received the same shit from the community when he first went to Korea for Broodwar, look at his fanbase now.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 21 2011 15:11 GMT
#475
On September 21 2011 23:07 kakaman wrote:


Major not joining the team, just practicing with them.


This would be a smart choice on both sides, if anything happens and i am sorry but it's proven before the chance is very likely then it's easy to part ways without contract drama's.

I hope for you Artosis that he becomes what you believe he will be, but your not a sage and if he keeps ruining things it's going to get to your reputation eventualy.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
September 21 2011 15:11 GMT
#476
On September 21 2011 23:55 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 23:27 rasnj wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:20 0neder wrote:
Wait, the title was changed. So he's not ON TSL? Why don't any of these foreigners actually JOIN the team instead of staying for some insignificant period of time? At least Fenix has taken the next step along with HuK and Jinro. Go Fenix!

Probably because he wasn't offered to join. He was likely offered to train with them, and if he proves a great player they want on their team they can ask him to join.

Anyway I don't see what the big deal is. How does practicing at the house differ from being an official member? He has access to the same training partners. He is not good enough to get a salary from tsl either way. If he is not good enough to be offered a spot he would not get to play in gstl either way. I have a hard time seeing how the situations differ. If major becomes good enough to talk about salary or being fielded in gstl I'm sure he'll be offered an official spot on the team.

I think they'll ask him to join eventually, based on these facts:
  • TSL lost four of their star players to other teams, FruitDealer and Trickster to StarTale, Rain to Fnatic-MSI and most notably PuMa to Evil Geniuses.
  • MajOr, or Terran as he is otherwised called is one of the greatest foreigners in the Starcraft 2 scene. His only issue is his bad manner, which got him removed from a few teams, most notably ROOT and Sixjax. Plus Sixjax haven't really supported him much either, only sending him to one MLG and not to Korea like they promised.
  • As a result of the losses, TSL are probably desperate for a larger roster.

truth is:
- TSL lost 2 code B, 1 shaky code A players and one just-another-terran. No big deal
- major is foreigner after all. korean talents > him
- TSL already adds Symbol, Ultimate, KDH and Ragnarok. They pwnzed GSTL without much trouble
the only good reason is that TSL wants some foreign exposure, just like IM
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
September 21 2011 15:11 GMT
#477
On September 22 2011 00:01 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 23:44 Sailincieri wrote:
"MajOr, the #3 foreigner in the world by ELO ranking"

ELO ranking starts looking silly xD MajOr have no real achievements and he is #3? Great...
Other players win with koreans, get top places in big tournaments and they are not in TOP10...


I haven't taken the ELO system any serious either, I guess it's just who's hot in winnings right now or something. Because I can name many people that are better than MajOr, but I think his on a hotstreak now or something. Good for him also that this is kind of a trial instead of joining the team right away.

It has nothing to do with a hotstreak, look at the tournaments, look at who hes beaten. The number of top players is far lower than many of the others with high ELO. Compare his last 50 games on ELO to Sen's. It's like comparing a preschool curriculum to a university curriculum.
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terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
September 21 2011 15:15 GMT
#478
Nice interview


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Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 15:38:06
September 21 2011 15:19 GMT
#479
On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote:
I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character.


Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks


No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character.

Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance.
  • Some people may argue that skill justifies that. I say it doesn't, I say there's a line that he has crossed a long time ago.

  • Some will say that he's still young and will grow up and mature in the future. You know what? I was 14-18 at some point too, and I managed to not be a total jerk at that age, on- and offline. I had no respect or understanding for such people back then and I certainly don't now.

  • Others might just blindly hope for a foreign player to rise to korean levels regardless of the character behind it. I'm not sure we really want our "western ambassadors" be infamous for their manners instead of being famous for their prowess.

I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him.
Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
September 21 2011 15:20 GMT
#480
TSL_MajOr or TSL_Princess?
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