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On November 02 2011 09:18 CeriseCherries wrote:
-.- Well I think a lot of people decided a while back to become IdrA haters and will now stand by their high-horse flags...
I mean if you look at recent IdrA: gg's all around at MLG (even to MC, whom he has been at odds with AND Boxer who cheesed him 4 straight games)
TotalBiscuit even said that IdrA and he had made up, and IdrA was no TB fan.
Many of the early GG problems have been slowly disappearing since slightly before IEM Guangzhou...
When I watch this, I don't go, wow thats a disturbed buy, or that guy is infantile. I go haha lol. Maybe I am infantile too, but I will shit on people when talking to my friends on Skype while in game. -.- I mean by this point its half persona, half habit...
People aren't haters because of not GGing etc, people are haters because he has little to no respect for anyone but the best and rarely admits that he's wrong. GGing is actually enforced in the MLG rules and you can get a warning if you don't, he says it in a professional setting because it looks good but ultimately it's two letters that really carry no meaning...
It's not like he should leave the scene or anything...some people just don't like immaturity or general disrespect and that's why they don't like IdrA, it's very simple. People have different views. If you don't want people to hate on IdrA fans then don't hate on them back.
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On November 02 2011 09:25 Zostix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 09:01 Nosferatos wrote:
Does Idra ever compliment his opponents? Even if he didn't come off as an awkward and bitter person, why would he? Most of his fanbase are comprised of people who just want to see a player call another retarded. His fanbase doesn't want to see him compliment players, they just want him to say "hurr he's bad and retarded" whether he wins or loses.
Yea you just insulted me. Because I don't watch IdrA to see him rage. I watch him because he is one of the top non-Korean zerg, and he plays a macro style that isn't gimmicky and I can respect the solidity and mechanical skill that I so sorely lack in many occasions.
Is it funny when he calls someone doing something silly "fucking retarded"? maybe. But that isn't why most people like IdrA
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On November 02 2011 09:25 Zostix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 09:01 Nosferatos wrote:
Does Idra ever compliment his opponents? Even if he didn't come off as an awkward and bitter person, why would he? Most of his fanbase are comprised of people who just want to see a player call another retarded. His fanbase doesn't want to see him compliment players, they just want him to say "hurr he's bad and retarded" whether he wins or loses.
I am an Idra fan .... mostly I like seeing someone that is good enough to beat Bomber that comes from the US .... is that ok with you ?
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I laughed so hard during that game vs TT1 where he kept saying "now hes really mad"
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This vid kinda just bummed me out. Wasn't really funny to me at all, and if anything I just felt bad for Idra. If he was a more positive person all around, he would garner allot more success on top of what he already has. It's hard to be successful without thinking positively. And flaming ppl who beat you is just ridiculous IMO, how many "retards" beat him that day I wonder, and what does that make him?
All I really got from this video was, Idra just whines win or lose. Hates his job, hates this game. Well here is a tip if you truly feel that way. GET A NEW FUCKING JOB.
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idra is a boss. good video
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Simply Awesome.
All of this from 1 week? I've gotta tune in!
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Lol not going to lie, I can't stand Idra, but that's part of what makes him an appealing figure in the community.
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The emergence of a rageface like Idra was destined to happen at some point - there are just too many kids and immature people like him for it to NOT occur.
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excellent video, love IdrA as well.
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Good video, as if it hasn't been said enough.
To everybody who thinks IdrA's rage is his only appeal you're only kidding yourself. I love both of the following players, so don't get this next statement twisted but...
I watch Destiny for personality.
I watch IdrA for ability.
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I have a deep lack of respect for IdrA. I'm sure he's a pleasant, friendly dude in person (and probably to anyone not playing him in a game of starcraft) and I love players who say things like they are, but Incontrol does that, IdrA just says whatever makes himself feel better, emotionally lashing out at players.
I don't know how much he loves the game, but a complete disregard for his position in it is very negative, and creates a bunch of little idra-followers who BM like crazy because idra does, following any negative thing he says as if it were the word of god, and overall hurts the state of the game. This isn't idra's fault, really (he didn't ask for it) but he doesn't really understand that it's his job now. With the power comes the responsibility. He needs to learn to control himself in the public image, because all the "morons" he so often quotes, are very quick to pick up on anything wrong that he says or does.
It also does nothing to help the game's image when pro players are as BM as they tend to be. If we, as a community, encouraged new players and mannered play, there would be a lot less resistance for getting SCII more in the spotlight. When it's no longer "angry kids raging in their basements," it can finally come mainstream.
So, you guys can like your idra. I'll stick with Sheth if I want Zerg. I don't care if he's a worse player, his attitude and method of handling his status as a pro gamer are leagues better than anything Idra puts forward. Same goes for Jinro, BoxeR, IncontroL, Day9, etc.
Sportsmanship (REAL sportsmanship, as Geoff pointed out in an inside the game episode) is the thing that will make or break this game in the public eye.
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On November 02 2011 16:58 Honeybadger wrote:
I have a deep lack of respect for IdrA. I'm sure he's a pleasant, friendly dude in person (and probably to anyone not playing him in a game of starcraft) and I love players who say things like they are, but Incontrol does that, IdrA just says whatever makes himself feel better, emotionally lashing out at players.
I don't know how much he loves the game, but a complete disregard for his position in it is very negative, and creates a bunch of little idra-followers who BM like crazy because idra does, following any negative thing he says as if it were the word of god, and overall hurts the state of the game. This isn't idra's fault, really (he didn't ask for it) but he doesn't really understand that it's his job now. With the power comes the responsibility. He needs to learn to control himself in the public image, because all the "morons" he so often quotes, are very quick to pick up on anything wrong that he says or does.
It also does nothing to help the game's image when pro players are as BM as they tend to be. If we, as a community, encouraged new players and mannered play, there would be a lot less resistance for getting SCII more in the spotlight. When it's no longer "angry kids raging in their basements," it can finally come mainstream.
So, you guys can like your idra. I'll stick with Sheth if I want Zerg. I don't care if he's a worse player, his attitude and method of handling his status as a pro gamer are leagues better than anything Idra puts forward. Same goes for Jinro, BoxeR, IncontroL, Day9, etc.
Sportsmanship (REAL sportsmanship, as Geoff pointed out in an inside the game episode) is the thing that will make or break this game in the public eye.
Whats going to make e-sports work is real genuenly interesting personalties, not more korean style forced politness. People need to express themselves and play their best... If Idra wants to change let him change, as he matures he likely will mellow... but fuck this we all have to be something we're not to make esports work... its going to get big or not on its own merits and a few people here or there are not going to make it or destory it.
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Meh, I like Idra. Probably because his personality is something I (sort of) aspire towards, as I'm way too shy and a total pushover.  that being said, it does seem like too much at times. (calling Quebecois "off" because he doesnt like playing against 2 or 3 of them)
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On November 02 2011 09:29 CeriseCherries wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 09:25 Zostix wrote:On November 02 2011 09:01 Nosferatos wrote:
Does Idra ever compliment his opponents? Even if he didn't come off as an awkward and bitter person, why would he? Most of his fanbase are comprised of people who just want to see a player call another retarded. His fanbase doesn't want to see him compliment players, they just want him to say "hurr he's bad and retarded" whether he wins or loses. Yea you just insulted me. Because I don't watch IdrA to see him rage. I watch him because he is one of the top non-Korean zerg, and he plays a macro style that isn't gimmicky and I can respect the solidity and mechanical skill that I so sorely lack in many occasions. Is it funny when he calls someone doing something silly "fucking retarded"? maybe. But that isn't why most people like IdrA
Yah I'm an Idra fan who strongly dislikes it when he doesn't GG to respectable people... mostly Boxer. I also hate it when he quits too early. I'm someone who likes someone to fight to the end. But I still like him, especially lately with the better tourney manners and him even staying in a few games later then he would otherwise. Not tilting against Boxer was a big step.
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Made me smile 
Nice vid 
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That was an "awful" watch, i feel bad now.
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awesome
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EPT
