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phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
September 19 2011 01:00 GMT
#121
Min Su 'Skit' Choi

"skit" = shit/dirt/bad in swedish. I hope he becomes very good :D
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
September 19 2011 01:02 GMT
#122
I like that theyre trying to get new players a name for themselves
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
September 19 2011 01:10 GMT
#123
On September 19 2011 10:00 lullaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
And the current situation in Sc2 is that Korea has all the skill.


first of all that is more racist than my posts before.

My question to you is, why sign koreans when they can prove themselves through tournaments like Code-A and Code-S since that is where the skill is at its highest. Also I'm fairly sure that Fenix, ThorZain etc. are on the same level as those guys on the fnatic B-Team.
Another thing to notice is that, if you want to see the best players, why sign B-Teamers instead of really good players for your A-team or why would you release someone like Sen? All in all your statements lack some logic there.
Anyways I'm not here to flame or discredit anything. I just think everyone's like "wow they are koreans and the korean server is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more difficult ( in fact it is but not as much as you want it to be ) so they are good and all foreigners are just terrible"

I don't see anything wrong in wanting some foreigners to win instead of koreans because as I said, it's just getting freaking boring.


I don't know why you're posting when you have no idea about the facts of situations.

Firstly Code S and Code A are the two hardest competitions in the world, the third hardest is the Code A qualifiers there are extremely few opportunities for Koreans to compete that isn't extremely high level. Where as EU and NA have countless small tournaments all the time.

Sen was not released by Fnatic, he wanted to play in the Taiwanese Star League, Fnatic 100% wanted to keep Sen it was Sen who didn't want to renew his contract with Fnatic.

I assume they're signing B Teamers because they're cheaper and all the A teamers are already on teams (and post Puma debacle contracted). But unlike American or EU B teamers these guys are actually good and talented. The number of EU/NA players with the potential to win or place well at tournaments within the next year but who aren't already on a team are extremely few where as Korea is a gold mine of untapped talent. Just look at Hero, Puma, Hwangsin and Rain and how they're dominating clan wars for their teams. Hero will cost Liquid a fraction of what EG are paying Huk but he's arguably a better player.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
September 19 2011 01:13 GMT
#124
What kind of support will the academy team be getting, and what are the criteria for joining the academy team?
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lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
September 19 2011 01:20 GMT
#125
This will be interesting. Not sure how well this will work out considering they really need more then just 3 players. Maybe they will invite some foreigners to come practice with them.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 19 2011 01:25 GMT
#126
On September 19 2011 09:19 Falcor wrote:
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On September 19 2011 09:14 Xeris wrote:
On September 19 2011 08:56 lullaby wrote:
I really, really, really dislike the trend every team is following at the moment...
Why do you have to have koreans?
Some people may argue that they are better, even though it's true for a lot of them ( taking a look at Dreamhack, Code S obviously etc. ). On a side note though, have a look at the foreigners like ThorZain ( sorry if written wrong :x ), Fenix, HuK... they are going berserk at the moment just because their teams put trust into them instead of picking some koreans.

The thing is, obviously you want your teams to win and I fully understand and agree with you there, since it's a business.
On the one hand there's a logical reason behind this, having some new and upcoming stars in your A-Team later on.
On the other hand though, it's one of the worst moves possible. Besides the already very poorly dealt PR thing with fenix and sen, fnatic misses a HUGE chance to gain some bonus in the community by providing an academy for foreigners to see them grow and advance in their playstyle.
Of course you may ask why you should pick foreigners over koreans?
The possibility I and many others, see there is, that you can:
1. raise your reputation within the community, relating in more visitors on your site and maybe more customers for your shop
2. Every team is picking up koreans nowadays and it's really really nothing special even more and even more unspectacular if they are not even A-team worthy right now.
3. If you would have picked up rising foreigners , this would have been something outstanding. Something we haven't seen as often as korean picks. Also if you would provide a cup with the winner being transferred to your academy for 1 month to prac with your pros, it would have a huge impact on your daily visitors and would make fnatic look even more professionel ( comparing it to professional sports like football, soccer etc. )


Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the decision but I'm clearly not seeing the point in it at all. To me it's just such a poor news compared to what it could have been.


This is a chance for us to develop unknown, talented players. It just happens that they're Koreans... makes no difference if they're white, asian, black, green, etc.


so will we be seeing foreign players in your academy at some point?

edit:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 09:19 Blasphemi wrote:
On September 19 2011 08:56 lullaby wrote:
I really, really, really dislike the trend every team is following at the moment...
Why do you have to have koreans?
Some people may argue that they are better, even though it's true for a lot of them ( taking a look at Dreamhack, Code S obviously etc. ). On a side note though, have a look at the foreigners like ThorZain ( sorry if written wrong :x ), Fenix, HuK... they are going berserk at the moment just because their teams put trust into them instead of picking some koreans.

The thing is, obviously you want your teams to win and I fully understand and agree with you there, since it's a business.
On the one hand there's a logical reason behind this, having some new and upcoming stars in your A-Team later on.
On the other hand though, it's one of the worst moves possible. Besides the already very poorly dealt PR thing with fenix and sen, fnatic misses a HUGE chance to gain some bonus in the community by providing an academy for foreigners to see them grow and advance in their playstyle.
Of course you may ask why you should pick foreigners over koreans?
The possibility I and many others, see there is, that you can:
1. raise your reputation within the community, relating in more visitors on your site and maybe more customers for your shop
2. Every team is picking up koreans nowadays and it's really really nothing special even more and even more unspectacular if they are not even A-team worthy right now.
3. If you would have picked up rising foreigners , this would have been something outstanding. Something we haven't seen as often as korean picks. Also if you would provide a cup with the winner being transferred to your academy for 1 month to prac with your pros, it would have a huge impact on your daily visitors and would make fnatic look even more professionel ( comparing it to professional sports like football, soccer etc. )


Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the decision but I'm clearly not seeing the point in it at all. To me it's just such a poor news compared to what it could have been.


Please be more racist.

i fail to see how thats racist? I can only think of 1 team off the top of my head that gives foreigners a chance who havent "proved themselves" in a tournament(complexity..even having a tourny to find players for their academy). Hows it racist to want to see the same chances offered to korean players(korean teams have had b teams since forever or a team like slayers who've been known to pick up "nobodys"), since no foreign team does atm.


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Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
September 19 2011 01:28 GMT
#127
cool
Aquilla
Profile Joined May 2011
69 Posts
September 19 2011 01:45 GMT
#128
holy moley this is exciting stuff.
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
September 19 2011 01:59 GMT
#129
Skit and August are pretty huge pickups! And here everyone thought Fnatic was disbanding. GL guys!
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Dimon87
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden218 Posts
September 19 2011 02:05 GMT
#130
Nice stuff giving unknown players a great chance, Hard to take Skit serious as a Swede as some other people have mentioned
denzelz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States604 Posts
September 19 2011 03:09 GMT
#131
This is a great idea on so many different levels. It gives support to unknown Korean players and it provides Fnatic players with skilled practice partners. Totally a win-win situation. It will also make a bigger name for Fnatic and MSI in Korea.

I actually think this is a better idea than just poaching Korean players outright because you get more practice partners for a much lesser price.
ScaSully
Profile Joined April 2011
United States488 Posts
September 19 2011 03:14 GMT
#132
interesting idea makes me think, how does a player in korea break into the scene without making to to code A or something crazy
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
September 19 2011 03:14 GMT
#133
Sounds interesting, glad to see more growth!
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KaluGOSU
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States171 Posts
September 19 2011 04:58 GMT
#134
good luck gamers
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Hodgy
Profile Joined September 2011
United States64 Posts
September 19 2011 05:47 GMT
#135
Sweet
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DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
September 19 2011 06:23 GMT
#136
Interesting concept, hopefully it pays off
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goaga
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania36 Posts
September 19 2011 07:07 GMT
#137
This will help e-sports a lot. Thanks FnaticMSI !
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 19 2011 07:09 GMT
#138
Sounds very nice. And a good way to make up for the recent loss of Fenix and Sen! For a moment I thought Fnatic might go the way of MYM, but looks like you're fine :D
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Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
September 19 2011 07:44 GMT
#139
Wohah. That's awesome. Fnatic are securing a future top spot among all foreign teams. I foresee a race to grab as many Koreans as possible. :D
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
September 19 2011 08:16 GMT
#140
hope they become great players!!!! Have they got amamanger in korea for them ordo they all live at home?
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