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I really, really, really dislike the trend every team is following at the moment...
Why do you have to have koreans?
Some people may argue that they are better, even though it's true for a lot of them ( taking a look at Dreamhack, Code S obviously etc. ). On a side note though, have a look at the foreigners like ThorZain ( sorry if written wrong :x ), Fenix, HuK... they are going berserk at the moment just because their teams put trust into them instead of picking some koreans.
The thing is, obviously you want your teams to win and I fully understand and agree with you there, since it's a business.
On the one hand there's a logical reason behind this, having some new and upcoming stars in your A-Team later on.
On the other hand though, it's one of the worst moves possible. Besides the already very poorly dealt PR thing with fenix and sen, fnatic misses a HUGE chance to gain some bonus in the community by providing an academy for foreigners to see them grow and advance in their playstyle.
Of course you may ask why you should pick foreigners over koreans?
The possibility I and many others, see there is, that you can:
1. raise your reputation within the community, relating in more visitors on your site and maybe more customers for your shop
2. Every team is picking up koreans nowadays and it's really really nothing special even more and even more unspectacular if they are not even A-team worthy right now.
3. If you would have picked up rising foreigners , this would have been something outstanding. Something we haven't seen as often as korean picks. Also if you would provide a cup with the winner being transferred to your academy for 1 month to prac with your pros, it would have a huge impact on your daily visitors and would make fnatic look even more professionel ( comparing it to professional sports like football, soccer etc. )
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the decision but I'm clearly not seeing the point in it at all. To me it's just such a poor news compared to what it could have been.
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August was on Werra right?
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On September 19 2011 08:56 lullaby wrote:
I really, really, really dislike the trend every team is following at the moment...
Why do you have to have koreans?
Some people may argue that they are better, even though it's true for a lot of them ( taking a look at Dreamhack, Code S obviously etc. ). On a side note though, have a look at the foreigners like ThorZain ( sorry if written wrong :x ), Fenix, HuK... they are going berserk at the moment just because their teams put trust into them instead of picking some koreans.
The thing is, obviously you want your teams to win and I fully understand and agree with you there, since it's a business.
On the one hand there's a logical reason behind this, having some new and upcoming stars in your A-Team later on.
On the other hand though, it's one of the worst moves possible. Besides the already very poorly dealt PR thing with fenix and sen, fnatic misses a HUGE chance to gain some bonus in the community by providing an academy for foreigners to see them grow and advance in their playstyle.
Of course you may ask why you should pick foreigners over koreans?
The possibility I and many others, see there is, that you can:
1. raise your reputation within the community, relating in more visitors on your site and maybe more customers for your shop
2. Every team is picking up koreans nowadays and it's really really nothing special even more and even more unspectacular if they are not even A-team worthy right now.
3. If you would have picked up rising foreigners , this would have been something outstanding. Something we haven't seen as often as korean picks. Also if you would provide a cup with the winner being transferred to your academy for 1 month to prac with your pros, it would have a huge impact on your daily visitors and would make fnatic look even more professionel ( comparing it to professional sports like football, soccer etc. )
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the decision but I'm clearly not seeing the point in it at all. To me it's just such a poor news compared to what it could have been.
This is a chance for us to develop unknown, talented players. It just happens that they're Koreans... makes no difference if they're white, asian, black, green, etc.
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Gl Fnatic, this is great!
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On September 19 2011 08:56 lullaby wrote:
I really, really, really dislike the trend every team is following at the moment...
Why do you have to have koreans?
Some people may argue that they are better, even though it's true for a lot of them ( taking a look at Dreamhack, Code S obviously etc. ). On a side note though, have a look at the foreigners like ThorZain ( sorry if written wrong :x ), Fenix, HuK... they are going berserk at the moment just because their teams put trust into them instead of picking some koreans.
The thing is, obviously you want your teams to win and I fully understand and agree with you there, since it's a business.
On the one hand there's a logical reason behind this, having some new and upcoming stars in your A-Team later on.
On the other hand though, it's one of the worst moves possible. Besides the already very poorly dealt PR thing with fenix and sen, fnatic misses a HUGE chance to gain some bonus in the community by providing an academy for foreigners to see them grow and advance in their playstyle.
Of course you may ask why you should pick foreigners over koreans?
The possibility I and many others, see there is, that you can:
1. raise your reputation within the community, relating in more visitors on your site and maybe more customers for your shop
2. Every team is picking up koreans nowadays and it's really really nothing special even more and even more unspectacular if they are not even A-team worthy right now.
3. If you would have picked up rising foreigners , this would have been something outstanding. Something we haven't seen as often as korean picks. Also if you would provide a cup with the winner being transferred to your academy for 1 month to prac with your pros, it would have a huge impact on your daily visitors and would make fnatic look even more professionel ( comparing it to professional sports like football, soccer etc. )
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the decision but I'm clearly not seeing the point in it at all. To me it's just such a poor news compared to what it could have been.
Please be more racist.
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On September 19 2011 09:14 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 08:56 lullaby wrote:
I really, really, really dislike the trend every team is following at the moment...
Why do you have to have koreans?
Some people may argue that they are better, even though it's true for a lot of them ( taking a look at Dreamhack, Code S obviously etc. ). On a side note though, have a look at the foreigners like ThorZain ( sorry if written wrong :x ), Fenix, HuK... they are going berserk at the moment just because their teams put trust into them instead of picking some koreans.
The thing is, obviously you want your teams to win and I fully understand and agree with you there, since it's a business.
On the one hand there's a logical reason behind this, having some new and upcoming stars in your A-Team later on.
On the other hand though, it's one of the worst moves possible. Besides the already very poorly dealt PR thing with fenix and sen, fnatic misses a HUGE chance to gain some bonus in the community by providing an academy for foreigners to see them grow and advance in their playstyle.
Of course you may ask why you should pick foreigners over koreans?
The possibility I and many others, see there is, that you can:
1. raise your reputation within the community, relating in more visitors on your site and maybe more customers for your shop
2. Every team is picking up koreans nowadays and it's really really nothing special even more and even more unspectacular if they are not even A-team worthy right now.
3. If you would have picked up rising foreigners , this would have been something outstanding. Something we haven't seen as often as korean picks. Also if you would provide a cup with the winner being transferred to your academy for 1 month to prac with your pros, it would have a huge impact on your daily visitors and would make fnatic look even more professionel ( comparing it to professional sports like football, soccer etc. )
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the decision but I'm clearly not seeing the point in it at all. To me it's just such a poor news compared to what it could have been. This is a chance for us to develop unknown, talented players. It just happens that they're Koreans... makes no difference if they're white, asian, black, green, etc.
so will we be seeing foreign players in your academy at some point?
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On September 19 2011 09:19 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 08:56 lullaby wrote:
I really, really, really dislike the trend every team is following at the moment...
Why do you have to have koreans?
Some people may argue that they are better, even though it's true for a lot of them ( taking a look at Dreamhack, Code S obviously etc. ). On a side note though, have a look at the foreigners like ThorZain ( sorry if written wrong :x ), Fenix, HuK... they are going berserk at the moment just because their teams put trust into them instead of picking some koreans.
The thing is, obviously you want your teams to win and I fully understand and agree with you there, since it's a business.
On the one hand there's a logical reason behind this, having some new and upcoming stars in your A-Team later on.
On the other hand though, it's one of the worst moves possible. Besides the already very poorly dealt PR thing with fenix and sen, fnatic misses a HUGE chance to gain some bonus in the community by providing an academy for foreigners to see them grow and advance in their playstyle.
Of course you may ask why you should pick foreigners over koreans?
The possibility I and many others, see there is, that you can:
1. raise your reputation within the community, relating in more visitors on your site and maybe more customers for your shop
2. Every team is picking up koreans nowadays and it's really really nothing special even more and even more unspectacular if they are not even A-team worthy right now.
3. If you would have picked up rising foreigners , this would have been something outstanding. Something we haven't seen as often as korean picks. Also if you would provide a cup with the winner being transferred to your academy for 1 month to prac with your pros, it would have a huge impact on your daily visitors and would make fnatic look even more professionel ( comparing it to professional sports like football, soccer etc. )
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the decision but I'm clearly not seeing the point in it at all. To me it's just such a poor news compared to what it could have been. Please be more racist.
i fail to see how thats racist? I can only think of 1 team off the top of my head that gives foreigners a chance who havent "proved themselves" in a tournament(complexity..even having a tourny to find players for their academy). Hows it racist to want to see the same chances offered to korean players(korean teams have had b teams since forever or a team like slayers who've been known to pick up "nobodys"), since no foreign team does atm.
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Look, the KR server has tons of talent who just need a chance to be invited onto a team.
This is a good step to bring some unknowns from KR server to foreign tournaments or tournaments in KR.
The competition is too hard to get into Code A and sometimes you lose to cheese in those qualifier games but doesn't mean those players are horrible.
Foreigners get an easy ride into Code A just because they won a tournament outside KR. Not all of Koreans have this opportunity due to language barrier.
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I really really like this Idea.
Will be Interesting to see how the players progress and their performance improves over time.
+1 Fnatic
Also these players are ranked very high on KR ladder and I remember Skit owning Destiny in a Bo3 Showmatch.
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Anything thats helping B-teamers or potential players improve is a good step and needs little criticism so long as its helping players.
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On September 19 2011 07:48 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 07:29 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 06:47 Eppa! wrote:On September 19 2011 06:09 Yamulo wrote:On September 19 2011 05:30 DoomsVille wrote:
So essentially a fnatic B-team? Interesting idea.
Any plans on forming a team house in korea? I would say even korean amateurs are on the lvl of top foreigners. Especially since August (augustwerra) used to be a pro gamer. I think the top foreigners have shown they can compete with top level Koreans (Nani, Sase, Fenix, Thorzain, Idra, Mana, Stephano etc.) Korean amateurs are like the level of high level EU players. As for Fnatic B team. Awesome shit, B teams are what really pull teams from casual to hardcore. None of those players can compete with top Koreans. MMA, Bomber, MVP, Nestea, Losira (and most of Code S) are well ahead of any of those guys. There is a reason Sase, Nani, Thorzain etc.. all got eliminated from Code A in the first round. ye the reason being that they landed in Korea one day before playing
I don't really think that's a fair statement though -- Koreans land one day before every MLG and have to play for two whole days non-stop while tired and jetlagged. And of course, they win every single time in an overwhelming fashion.
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On September 19 2011 09:31 hmunkey wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 07:48 Skilledblob wrote:On September 19 2011 07:29 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 06:47 Eppa! wrote:On September 19 2011 06:09 Yamulo wrote:On September 19 2011 05:30 DoomsVille wrote:
So essentially a fnatic B-team? Interesting idea.
Any plans on forming a team house in korea? I would say even korean amateurs are on the lvl of top foreigners. Especially since August (augustwerra) used to be a pro gamer. I think the top foreigners have shown they can compete with top level Koreans (Nani, Sase, Fenix, Thorzain, Idra, Mana, Stephano etc.) Korean amateurs are like the level of high level EU players. As for Fnatic B team. Awesome shit, B teams are what really pull teams from casual to hardcore. None of those players can compete with top Koreans. MMA, Bomber, MVP, Nestea, Losira (and most of Code S) are well ahead of any of those guys. There is a reason Sase, Nani, Thorzain etc.. all got eliminated from Code A in the first round. ye the reason being that they landed in Korea one day before playing I don't really think that's a fair statement though -- Koreans land one day before every MLG and have to play for two whole days non-stop while tired and jetlagged. And of course, they win every single time in an overwhelming fashion.
just a thought in general. Why dont players change their sleep scheduale prior to their trip. They know they have to fly to korea. A week before they fly slowly change their sleep scheduale to fit korean time. Its not like pro gamers have a job where they have to be up at a certain time...
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On September 19 2011 09:19 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 08:56 lullaby wrote:
I really, really, really dislike the trend every team is following at the moment...
Why do you have to have koreans?
Some people may argue that they are better, even though it's true for a lot of them ( taking a look at Dreamhack, Code S obviously etc. ). On a side note though, have a look at the foreigners like ThorZain ( sorry if written wrong :x ), Fenix, HuK... they are going berserk at the moment just because their teams put trust into them instead of picking some koreans.
The thing is, obviously you want your teams to win and I fully understand and agree with you there, since it's a business.
On the one hand there's a logical reason behind this, having some new and upcoming stars in your A-Team later on.
On the other hand though, it's one of the worst moves possible. Besides the already very poorly dealt PR thing with fenix and sen, fnatic misses a HUGE chance to gain some bonus in the community by providing an academy for foreigners to see them grow and advance in their playstyle.
Of course you may ask why you should pick foreigners over koreans?
The possibility I and many others, see there is, that you can:
1. raise your reputation within the community, relating in more visitors on your site and maybe more customers for your shop
2. Every team is picking up koreans nowadays and it's really really nothing special even more and even more unspectacular if they are not even A-team worthy right now.
3. If you would have picked up rising foreigners , this would have been something outstanding. Something we haven't seen as often as korean picks. Also if you would provide a cup with the winner being transferred to your academy for 1 month to prac with your pros, it would have a huge impact on your daily visitors and would make fnatic look even more professionel ( comparing it to professional sports like football, soccer etc. )
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the decision but I'm clearly not seeing the point in it at all. To me it's just such a poor news compared to what it could have been. Please be more racist.
How am I being racist? oO Sorry if you think this post is meant as such, but it clearly isn't. The thing is e-Sports is already very very big in korea and I would love to see some organizations to put in some efforts to improve it in "outer-korea". It's getting really boring to only see koreans win and I desperately hope for some foreigners to win at least 1 or 2 big events in the near future. The only problem is, that in korea, the good players already have teams, a team house , an overall nice praticing environment whereas foreigners just don't. You don't even give them a chance by picking up koreans. That's my point of view. It's got nothing to do with racism but rather with wanting to see some foreigners smallering the skillgap :/
This is a chance for us to develop unknown, talented players. It just happens that they're Koreans... makes no difference if they're white, asian, black, green, etc.
For me it does make a difference. I mean, if I was in your position , I would want my teams to win. Many koreans got it what it takes to win big events. No doubt about it. But what you are having here is an academy and I would love to cheer for some foreigner guys instead of more koreans. It's the same if you are cheering for a , let's say small soccer club. If you are playing against Real Madrid with tons and tons of skilled players and your small club makes a score or plays really well, it's just way more fun to cheer for them than for the big, expected-to-win team.
Just my 2 cents though
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On September 19 2011 09:19 Falcor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 09:14 Xeris wrote:On September 19 2011 08:56 lullaby wrote:
I really, really, really dislike the trend every team is following at the moment...
Why do you have to have koreans?
Some people may argue that they are better, even though it's true for a lot of them ( taking a look at Dreamhack, Code S obviously etc. ). On a side note though, have a look at the foreigners like ThorZain ( sorry if written wrong :x ), Fenix, HuK... they are going berserk at the moment just because their teams put trust into them instead of picking some koreans.
The thing is, obviously you want your teams to win and I fully understand and agree with you there, since it's a business.
On the one hand there's a logical reason behind this, having some new and upcoming stars in your A-Team later on.
On the other hand though, it's one of the worst moves possible. Besides the already very poorly dealt PR thing with fenix and sen, fnatic misses a HUGE chance to gain some bonus in the community by providing an academy for foreigners to see them grow and advance in their playstyle.
Of course you may ask why you should pick foreigners over koreans?
The possibility I and many others, see there is, that you can:
1. raise your reputation within the community, relating in more visitors on your site and maybe more customers for your shop
2. Every team is picking up koreans nowadays and it's really really nothing special even more and even more unspectacular if they are not even A-team worthy right now.
3. If you would have picked up rising foreigners , this would have been something outstanding. Something we haven't seen as often as korean picks. Also if you would provide a cup with the winner being transferred to your academy for 1 month to prac with your pros, it would have a huge impact on your daily visitors and would make fnatic look even more professionel ( comparing it to professional sports like football, soccer etc. )
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the decision but I'm clearly not seeing the point in it at all. To me it's just such a poor news compared to what it could have been. This is a chance for us to develop unknown, talented players. It just happens that they're Koreans... makes no difference if they're white, asian, black, green, etc. so will we be seeing foreign players in your academy at some point? edit: Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 09:19 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 08:56 lullaby wrote:
I really, really, really dislike the trend every team is following at the moment...
Why do you have to have koreans?
Some people may argue that they are better, even though it's true for a lot of them ( taking a look at Dreamhack, Code S obviously etc. ). On a side note though, have a look at the foreigners like ThorZain ( sorry if written wrong :x ), Fenix, HuK... they are going berserk at the moment just because their teams put trust into them instead of picking some koreans.
The thing is, obviously you want your teams to win and I fully understand and agree with you there, since it's a business.
On the one hand there's a logical reason behind this, having some new and upcoming stars in your A-Team later on.
On the other hand though, it's one of the worst moves possible. Besides the already very poorly dealt PR thing with fenix and sen, fnatic misses a HUGE chance to gain some bonus in the community by providing an academy for foreigners to see them grow and advance in their playstyle.
Of course you may ask why you should pick foreigners over koreans?
The possibility I and many others, see there is, that you can:
1. raise your reputation within the community, relating in more visitors on your site and maybe more customers for your shop
2. Every team is picking up koreans nowadays and it's really really nothing special even more and even more unspectacular if they are not even A-team worthy right now.
3. If you would have picked up rising foreigners , this would have been something outstanding. Something we haven't seen as often as korean picks. Also if you would provide a cup with the winner being transferred to your academy for 1 month to prac with your pros, it would have a huge impact on your daily visitors and would make fnatic look even more professionel ( comparing it to professional sports like football, soccer etc. )
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the decision but I'm clearly not seeing the point in it at all. To me it's just such a poor news compared to what it could have been. Please be more racist. i fail to see how thats racist? I can only think of 1 team off the top of my head that gives foreigners a chance who havent "proved themselves" in a tournament(complexity..even having a tourny to find players for their academy). Hows it racist to want to see the same chances offered to korean players(korean teams have had b teams since forever or a team like slayers who've been known to pick up "nobodys"), since no foreign team does atm.
You don't need to 'give players a chance' in Sc2 because players themselves can easilly sign up to endless online tournament and work their way up the ladder for free.
The only thing you need a team for is LAN events or invite only tournaments, which are not at all necessary in order to make a name for yourself.
Just look at a guy like Nerchio, he isn't where he is because of a team, it's all his own hard work and grinding out ladder and free (or cheap) to enter online cups.
You only need a team to finance you once you're hitting LAN's, which will be no problem to find if you're posting good results in online tournaments and hitting the top end of the ladder.
It's racist because you shouldn't care where a player is from (unless he's from your own country). People should like players for their play.
There's nothing sadder and more amusing to me about this scene than when a guy from Brazil is desperate that anyone from the Ukraine beats anyone from South Korea.
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On September 19 2011 09:43 lullaby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 09:19 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 08:56 lullaby wrote:
I really, really, really dislike the trend every team is following at the moment...
Why do you have to have koreans?
Some people may argue that they are better, even though it's true for a lot of them ( taking a look at Dreamhack, Code S obviously etc. ). On a side note though, have a look at the foreigners like ThorZain ( sorry if written wrong :x ), Fenix, HuK... they are going berserk at the moment just because their teams put trust into them instead of picking some koreans.
The thing is, obviously you want your teams to win and I fully understand and agree with you there, since it's a business.
On the one hand there's a logical reason behind this, having some new and upcoming stars in your A-Team later on.
On the other hand though, it's one of the worst moves possible. Besides the already very poorly dealt PR thing with fenix and sen, fnatic misses a HUGE chance to gain some bonus in the community by providing an academy for foreigners to see them grow and advance in their playstyle.
Of course you may ask why you should pick foreigners over koreans?
The possibility I and many others, see there is, that you can:
1. raise your reputation within the community, relating in more visitors on your site and maybe more customers for your shop
2. Every team is picking up koreans nowadays and it's really really nothing special even more and even more unspectacular if they are not even A-team worthy right now.
3. If you would have picked up rising foreigners , this would have been something outstanding. Something we haven't seen as often as korean picks. Also if you would provide a cup with the winner being transferred to your academy for 1 month to prac with your pros, it would have a huge impact on your daily visitors and would make fnatic look even more professionel ( comparing it to professional sports like football, soccer etc. )
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the decision but I'm clearly not seeing the point in it at all. To me it's just such a poor news compared to what it could have been. Please be more racist. How am I being racist? oO Sorry if you think this post is meant as such, but it clearly isn't. The thing is e-Sports is already very very big in korea and I would love to see some organizations to put in some efforts to improve it in "outer-korea". It's getting really boring to only see koreans win and I desperately hope for some foreigners to win at least 1 or 2 big events in the near future. The only problem is, that in korea, the good players already have teams, a team house , an overall nice praticing environment whereas foreigners just don't. You don't even give them a chance by picking up koreans. That's my point of view. It's got nothing to do with racism but rather with wanting to see some foreigners smallering the skillgap :/ Show nested quote +This is a chance for us to develop unknown, talented players. It just happens that they're Koreans... makes no difference if they're white, asian, black, green, etc. For me it does make a difference. I mean, if I was in your position , I would want my teams to win. Many koreans got it what it takes to win big events. No doubt about it. But what you are having here is an academy and I would love to cheer for some foreigner guys instead of more koreans. It's the same if you are cheering for a , let's say small soccer club. If you are playing against Real Madrid with tons and tons of skilled players and your small club makes a score or plays really well, it's just way more fun to cheer for them than for the big, expected-to-win team. Just my 2 cents though
'Your team' isn't every damn country in the world that isn't South Korea.
And the current situation in Sc2 is that Korea has all the skill and the foreigners have all the money. Personally I like to see players with the most skill make the most money.
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On September 19 2011 09:50 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 09:43 lullaby wrote:On September 19 2011 09:19 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 08:56 lullaby wrote:
I really, really, really dislike the trend every team is following at the moment...
Why do you have to have koreans?
Some people may argue that they are better, even though it's true for a lot of them ( taking a look at Dreamhack, Code S obviously etc. ). On a side note though, have a look at the foreigners like ThorZain ( sorry if written wrong :x ), Fenix, HuK... they are going berserk at the moment just because their teams put trust into them instead of picking some koreans.
The thing is, obviously you want your teams to win and I fully understand and agree with you there, since it's a business.
On the one hand there's a logical reason behind this, having some new and upcoming stars in your A-Team later on.
On the other hand though, it's one of the worst moves possible. Besides the already very poorly dealt PR thing with fenix and sen, fnatic misses a HUGE chance to gain some bonus in the community by providing an academy for foreigners to see them grow and advance in their playstyle.
Of course you may ask why you should pick foreigners over koreans?
The possibility I and many others, see there is, that you can:
1. raise your reputation within the community, relating in more visitors on your site and maybe more customers for your shop
2. Every team is picking up koreans nowadays and it's really really nothing special even more and even more unspectacular if they are not even A-team worthy right now.
3. If you would have picked up rising foreigners , this would have been something outstanding. Something we haven't seen as often as korean picks. Also if you would provide a cup with the winner being transferred to your academy for 1 month to prac with your pros, it would have a huge impact on your daily visitors and would make fnatic look even more professionel ( comparing it to professional sports like football, soccer etc. )
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the decision but I'm clearly not seeing the point in it at all. To me it's just such a poor news compared to what it could have been. Please be more racist. How am I being racist? oO Sorry if you think this post is meant as such, but it clearly isn't. The thing is e-Sports is already very very big in korea and I would love to see some organizations to put in some efforts to improve it in "outer-korea". It's getting really boring to only see koreans win and I desperately hope for some foreigners to win at least 1 or 2 big events in the near future. The only problem is, that in korea, the good players already have teams, a team house , an overall nice praticing environment whereas foreigners just don't. You don't even give them a chance by picking up koreans. That's my point of view. It's got nothing to do with racism but rather with wanting to see some foreigners smallering the skillgap :/ This is a chance for us to develop unknown, talented players. It just happens that they're Koreans... makes no difference if they're white, asian, black, green, etc. For me it does make a difference. I mean, if I was in your position , I would want my teams to win. Many koreans got it what it takes to win big events. No doubt about it. But what you are having here is an academy and I would love to cheer for some foreigner guys instead of more koreans. It's the same if you are cheering for a , let's say small soccer club. If you are playing against Real Madrid with tons and tons of skilled players and your small club makes a score or plays really well, it's just way more fun to cheer for them than for the big, expected-to-win team. Just my 2 cents though 'Your team' isn't every damn country in the world that isn't South Korea. And the current situation in Sc2 is that Korea has all the skill and the foreigners have all the money. Personally I like to see players with the most skill make the most money.
The bolded text is a fairly general statement but it's pretty accurate. Sure there are 4-5 non korean players that can perform at the Code S level....but there are about 30 koreans who are also at that level...and every team obviously wants to be as good as they can be.
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On September 19 2011 09:34 Falcor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 09:31 hmunkey wrote:On September 19 2011 07:48 Skilledblob wrote:On September 19 2011 07:29 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 06:47 Eppa! wrote:On September 19 2011 06:09 Yamulo wrote:On September 19 2011 05:30 DoomsVille wrote:
So essentially a fnatic B-team? Interesting idea.
Any plans on forming a team house in korea? I would say even korean amateurs are on the lvl of top foreigners. Especially since August (augustwerra) used to be a pro gamer. I think the top foreigners have shown they can compete with top level Koreans (Nani, Sase, Fenix, Thorzain, Idra, Mana, Stephano etc.) Korean amateurs are like the level of high level EU players. As for Fnatic B team. Awesome shit, B teams are what really pull teams from casual to hardcore. None of those players can compete with top Koreans. MMA, Bomber, MVP, Nestea, Losira (and most of Code S) are well ahead of any of those guys. There is a reason Sase, Nani, Thorzain etc.. all got eliminated from Code A in the first round. ye the reason being that they landed in Korea one day before playing I don't really think that's a fair statement though -- Koreans land one day before every MLG and have to play for two whole days non-stop while tired and jetlagged. And of course, they win every single time in an overwhelming fashion. just a thought in general. Why dont players change their sleep scheduale prior to their trip. They know they have to fly to korea. A week before they fly slowly change their sleep scheduale to fit korean time. Its not like pro gamers have a job where they have to be up at a certain time...
Changing your sleep schedule is easier said than done. Jetlag will always be an issue. You can minimize it, but you can never evade it completely.
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Best of luck with the new team, Nice to see more and more relationships with Korean players.
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And the current situation in Sc2 is that Korea has all the skill.
first of all that is more racist than my posts before.
My question to you is, why sign koreans when they can prove themselves through tournaments like Code-A and Code-S since that is where the skill is at its highest. Also I'm fairly sure that Fenix, ThorZain etc. are on the same level as those guys on the fnatic B-Team.
Another thing to notice is that, if you want to see the best players, why sign B-Teamers instead of really good players for your A-team or why would you release someone like Sen? All in all your statements lack some logic there.
Anyways I'm not here to flame or discredit anything. I just think everyone's like "wow they are koreans and the korean server is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more difficult ( in fact it is but not as much as you want it to be ) so they are good and all foreigners are just terrible"
I don't see anything wrong in wanting some foreigners to win instead of koreans because as I said, it's just getting freaking boring.
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