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ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
September 16 2011 16:29 GMT
#21
Holy fuck, nice


Rofl at the zerg getting up to 160 drones haha
no dude, the question
Fiel
Profile Joined March 2010
United States587 Posts
September 16 2011 16:29 GMT
#22
Fairly interesting that Bronze has the lowest level of workers but the highest unspent resources. So what do they do in games...? That baffles me.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
September 16 2011 16:29 GMT
#23
Amazing! I would love to see the SQ rating of a lot of different players. Great read and a lot of information there.
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
September 16 2011 16:30 GMT
#24
Very interesting read. And yes lol at IdrAs own league.
CidO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States695 Posts
September 16 2011 16:31 GMT
#25
Very nice read :D Thank for for sharing/
:P
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
September 16 2011 16:32 GMT
#26
The Spending Quotient isn't as important for Zergs though? Zergs can mass larvae without spending the money - like when you save 1000 mins 1000 gas to instantly spawn 10 mutalisks as the spire finishes.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
September 16 2011 16:32 GMT
#27
Wow, great read!

The results of course are not surprising, but it's very good to see it laid out and shown!

For me personally, I feel like I can macro like a pro up to 70-80 supply and then I fall behind.
E.H Eager
Profile Joined August 2011
United States227 Posts
September 16 2011 16:33 GMT
#28
Awesome read. Shows a lot of insight into the different leagues. Sorry that it probably took you like five days to write this up
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
September 16 2011 16:33 GMT
#29
Holy Guacamole that was well done.

May I ask what programm you used for your plots ?
SFX
Profile Joined June 2011
United States89 Posts
September 16 2011 16:33 GMT
#30
I do love hard equations and rational thinking.
The innocent shall suffer, big time.
Smurphy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States374 Posts
September 16 2011 16:34 GMT
#31
I help a lot of newer and lower league players with basic mechanics. I always tell them to check the economic info score page after each game. I want them to work on having a lower unspent resources and a higher income than their opponent. Most don't understand what I keep telling them to focus on this aspect.

Now I can show them this thread and explain "it is macro!"
smf
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway19 Posts
September 16 2011 16:34 GMT
#32
Awesome 500th, thanks a lot for sharing. Now I need to play some games so I can compare my SQ with idras.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
September 16 2011 16:35 GMT
#33
Someone has been busy :D

Interesting analysis, and more or less confirms what I expected.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Ihsahn
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile132 Posts
September 16 2011 16:35 GMT
#34
Incredible Post!!! It would be very nice to see how GSL players score in this SQ scale.
Keep up the good work!
nadaesimposibleniunawea
CluEleSs_UK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom583 Posts
September 16 2011 16:37 GMT
#35
Cool post! I think this really attests to the age-old advice "spend your money!" and "constantly build workers" we give to newer players! Any time I'm teaching a new guy, they're always trying to follow a precise build perfectly, and they never understand when I say "it doesn't matter if you can only support x number of production facilities on 2 bases, spend your money!"
"If it turns out he is leaving the ESL to focus on cooking crystal meth I'll agree that it is somewhat disgraceful, but I'll hold off judgement until then."
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
September 16 2011 16:37 GMT
#36
Great post. This needs to be featured. will try to calculate my spending quotient too
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Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1014 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 16:39:53
September 16 2011 16:37 GMT
#37
while I know it was done for fun, your dats is not as useful as it could be. Your conclusions need to be separated for each race. P and Z average unspent will be much higher than T.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
September 16 2011 16:37 GMT
#38
So Master macros better than Bronze? Interesting....

No, no I' kidding. Great work really good write up!
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
September 16 2011 16:37 GMT
#39
Sick thread, very interesting, good job.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 16 2011 16:37 GMT
#40
Heres my question. Is the players that you selected for the leagues below GM been set in that league for a long time or just happens to be in that league when you took the sampling, because u have possibilities for some players who just got demoted in your sample and would skew the data to a certain point.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
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