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whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
September 16 2011 16:46 GMT
#61
Thank you all for the feedback.

while I know it was done for fun, your dats is not really that useful since to my knowledge you didn't separate the races. P and Z average unspent will be much higher than T.

Regarding the different races, I went into the project expecting that there would be huge differences in unspent resources for the same income between races. That turns out not to be the case - I actually showed that in the OP for Grandmaster players, and I wasn't able to find any significant differences between races in lower leagues either. It is perhaps counterintuitive, but SQ seems to be only very mildly affected by race.

Heres my question. Is the players that you selected for the leagues below GM been set in that league for a long time or just happens to be in that league when you took the sampling, because u have possibilities for some players who just got demoted in your sample and would skew the data to a certain point.

It is possible, I didn't try to determine how long players had been in each league. I would expect such differences to average out across leagues, but it could have some small effect.

May I ask what programm you used for your plots ?

I used Matlab for most of the figures.

Regarding the time taken, let's just say I'm glad it's now over.
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
September 16 2011 16:46 GMT
#62
You sir should be awarded a Noble Prize for SC2, exceptional work, great stats and analysis truely inspring bravo sir!!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
September 16 2011 16:47 GMT
#63
Wow, this is a stat junkie's dream! Thanks man :DDDD

I want to know who the Protoss is who had >40 workers at 23 minutes into the game. It was probably just a PvP though
Scrimpton
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom465 Posts
September 16 2011 16:47 GMT
#64
This is fucking amazing.

Going to link ANYBODY in a lower league who claims they macro well, to this.

thankyou
Protoss is the only race with "pro" in it
AnodyneSea
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Jamaica757 Posts
September 16 2011 16:48 GMT
#65
whoa what just happened!?!

MIND BLOWN
Lost within the hope of freedom, not for control but in the light of our cause
Schwammerl
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany26 Posts
September 16 2011 16:48 GMT
#66
Wow, what an amazing and interesting read.

Thank you for that!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ㅈㅈ ಠ_ಠ
UltramilK
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium92 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 16:50:47
September 16 2011 16:48 GMT
#67
wow! This is a very nice read.

wich program did you use? Edit: nvm.

I would love play around with this data in SPSS
PikaXchU
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore379 Posts
September 16 2011 16:49 GMT
#68
This post is awesome. Great effort and thought put into this. This is exactly what people need to measure whether they have improved or not.
Carrier has arrived.
R3N
Profile Joined March 2011
740 Posts
September 16 2011 16:50 GMT
#69
wOw nice graphics! I don't quite understand the math stuff but I do understand the graphs
ajabberwok
Profile Joined October 2010
United States59 Posts
September 16 2011 16:50 GMT
#70
I'd like to know more about the data collection method for this analysis.

Did it require a human to sit down and click on all the player names in a division in Starcraft and type the average income and average unspent resources into a spreadsheet? Or did you create a script that can automatically collect this information?

If you had a script that can collect this data, do you plan on making it publicly available?
inqsolarus
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia34 Posts
September 16 2011 16:50 GMT
#71
This is really cool, thank you for all the effort this must have taken.
theBullFrog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States515 Posts
September 16 2011 16:50 GMT
#72
For once i enjoyed one of these "analysis" threads. Will read into more detail when i'm not busy with work
thebullfrog
Aurex
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada115 Posts
September 16 2011 16:50 GMT
#73
bravo, this is the type of thinking that moves the game forward in the foreigner scene.
Scrimpton
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom465 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 16:51:38
September 16 2011 16:50 GMT
#74
edit:

some sort of weird double post, sorry
Protoss is the only race with "pro" in it
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
September 16 2011 16:51 GMT
#75
hahahahaha loved the IdrA bit.

You really did some fantastic work, OP.
#TeamBuLba
FreddYCooL
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden415 Posts
September 16 2011 16:51 GMT
#76
Wow excellent work! Easy to understand and comprehend and very well written! That it still isnt spotlighted baffles me
Dexerion
Profile Joined May 2010
United States43 Posts
September 16 2011 16:51 GMT
#77
I'm not sure if we KNOW for sure how Blizzard defines their ranking system, but at the end of the day, SC2 is a macro game and this could be a large part of the way they place people into leagues.

Maybe that's why after a few "Seasons" of the ladder, people are often being placed directly into a division after just 1 or 2 games.
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
September 16 2011 16:52 GMT
#78
Disguised IdrA fan. Epicness. Great read thanks for the information
Ihsahn
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile132 Posts
September 16 2011 16:52 GMT
#79
Is there any way this index could be integrated into sc2gears? I think that could help a lot!
nadaesimposibleniunawea
MattyClutch
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States711 Posts
September 16 2011 16:54 GMT
#80
Interesting read, thanks for all the work you put in.
Nihn'kas Neehn
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