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TolEranceNA
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada434 Posts
September 15 2011 19:20 GMT
#121
On September 16 2011 04:18 slam wrote:
lol @ people trying to bash Fayth.


lol @ people trying to bash people bashing Fayth
Arotsis:"Nestea, what do you think about Zerg?" Nestea:"...Sad."
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
September 15 2011 19:20 GMT
#122
On September 16 2011 04:19 tkRage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 04:18 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:17 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:16 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:14 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:12 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:08 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
I'm not sure whats worse. It will be near impossible to neural collosus micro'd by someone with even a hint of intelligence, and tanks will becomes a pretty damn good counter to festors. Also won't be able to np mothershits at all :|

mothership shud NOT be NP wtfffffffffffffff

Go play Zerg, and get back to me in three months when you make your way out of Diamond, k?

do you know who you're talking to?

like seriously...

it's just as stupid as idra saying morrow would suck with zerg when he played terran and morrow proved him wrong

zerg is not harder to play than protoss, it's just different

I know exactly who I'm talking to rofl. You're not special, and in no way an authority on the game.

are you sure?

wouldn't you assume that someone like kiwikaki would be good at SC2 even before the game came out?

What are you even talking about?

someone who does very well in previous games tends to do well in another endeavor, you agree with that right? as long as the same effort/time has been put in
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
September 15 2011 19:20 GMT
#123
7 range is reasonable. It makes it still good versus Thor but worse versus colossus which is good. Late game zerg army is so strong these days.
Dbla08
Profile Joined March 2011
United States211 Posts
September 15 2011 19:20 GMT
#124
this is yet another retarded idea imo, why do they continuously patch the game to remove the effect of skill? leave it how it was. zergs aren't dominating any tournaments right now, and the one race that is, is going to be made invincible vs z by changing their only true backbone unit so drastically
tkRage
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
225 Posts
September 15 2011 19:20 GMT
#125
On September 16 2011 04:20 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 04:19 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:18 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:17 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:16 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:14 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:12 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:08 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
I'm not sure whats worse. It will be near impossible to neural collosus micro'd by someone with even a hint of intelligence, and tanks will becomes a pretty damn good counter to festors. Also won't be able to np mothershits at all :|

mothership shud NOT be NP wtfffffffffffffff

Go play Zerg, and get back to me in three months when you make your way out of Diamond, k?

do you know who you're talking to?

like seriously...

it's just as stupid as idra saying morrow would suck with zerg when he played terran and morrow proved him wrong

zerg is not harder to play than protoss, it's just different

I know exactly who I'm talking to rofl. You're not special, and in no way an authority on the game.

are you sure?

wouldn't you assume that someone like kiwikaki would be good at SC2 even before the game came out?

What are you even talking about?

someone who does very well in previous games tends to do well in another endeavor, you agree with that right? as long as the same effort/time has been put in


Jose... how is this even relevant to this conversation at all? Please stop trying to change the subject.
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
September 15 2011 19:21 GMT
#126
On September 16 2011 04:20 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 04:19 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:18 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:17 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:16 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:14 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:12 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:08 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
I'm not sure whats worse. It will be near impossible to neural collosus micro'd by someone with even a hint of intelligence, and tanks will becomes a pretty damn good counter to festors. Also won't be able to np mothershits at all :|

mothership shud NOT be NP wtfffffffffffffff

Go play Zerg, and get back to me in three months when you make your way out of Diamond, k?

do you know who you're talking to?

like seriously...

it's just as stupid as idra saying morrow would suck with zerg when he played terran and morrow proved him wrong

zerg is not harder to play than protoss, it's just different

I know exactly who I'm talking to rofl. You're not special, and in no way an authority on the game.

are you sure?

wouldn't you assume that someone like kiwikaki would be good at SC2 even before the game came out?

What are you even talking about?

someone who does very well in previous games tends to do well in another endeavor, you agree with that right? as long as the same effort/time has been put in

AH so you will be good at this game because you were good on another game? Is that what you're trying to say ? lol
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
September 15 2011 19:21 GMT
#127
On September 16 2011 04:18 tkRage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 04:18 slam wrote:
lol @ people trying to bash Fayth.

lol @ Fayth trying to bash people, like somehow he's got game knowledge? If you claim that neural parasite needs a nerf, then you clearly don't understand this game AT ALL.

Stop making this a flame war. >.>
I'm not even going to bother responding to that.
I get it.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
September 15 2011 19:21 GMT
#128
On September 16 2011 04:18 tkRage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 04:18 slam wrote:
lol @ people trying to bash Fayth.

lol @ Fayth trying to bash people, like somehow he's got game knowledge? If you claim that neural parasite needs a nerf, then you clearly don't understand this game AT ALL.

neural parasite by itself might not need a nerf, but infestor needed one, it was too good overall, they could give a fucking dark archon to zerg with neural if anything with 9 range and I wouldn't mind
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
September 15 2011 19:22 GMT
#129
Fayth, do you realize that baneling drops were nerfed significantly in this patch as well? I don't think it's a good recommendation to try that style anymore.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
September 15 2011 19:22 GMT
#130
On September 16 2011 03:46 grungust wrote:
Just goes to show how blizzard has a fundamental misunderstanding on how to balance this game. SC2 game design is just absolutely horrible for 2/3 of the game (protoss,zerg)


That's because they love to cuddle with terran :D

This change I think will be better for zerg indeed.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 19:24:52
September 15 2011 19:22 GMT
#131
thats still bad for zerg. every unit you want to (or "have to") NP has a bigger range than NP itself and all the counters to infestor (HT, Ghost) outrange them aswell.

In ZvT/P all the NP worthy units are held back and how should a zerg come in range to NP a collossus, when he has to walk in range of it plus all the stalker? How to NP thors/tanks if tanks outrange NP by 6 (which is immense)? Sure zergs will get NP off, but how long will it remain? the infestor casting it will die instantaneously.
keep it deep! @zulison
tkRage
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
225 Posts
September 15 2011 19:22 GMT
#132
On September 16 2011 04:22 oOOoOphidian wrote:
Fayth, do you realize that baneling drops were nerfed significantly in this patch as well? I don't think it's a good recommendation to try that style anymore.

That's not exactly true. They work exactly the same way they did before. It was debunked.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
September 15 2011 19:22 GMT
#133
On September 16 2011 04:20 tkRage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 04:20 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:19 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:18 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:17 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:16 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:14 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:12 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:08 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
I'm not sure whats worse. It will be near impossible to neural collosus micro'd by someone with even a hint of intelligence, and tanks will becomes a pretty damn good counter to festors. Also won't be able to np mothershits at all :|

mothership shud NOT be NP wtfffffffffffffff

Go play Zerg, and get back to me in three months when you make your way out of Diamond, k?

do you know who you're talking to?

like seriously...

it's just as stupid as idra saying morrow would suck with zerg when he played terran and morrow proved him wrong

zerg is not harder to play than protoss, it's just different

I know exactly who I'm talking to rofl. You're not special, and in no way an authority on the game.

are you sure?

wouldn't you assume that someone like kiwikaki would be good at SC2 even before the game came out?

What are you even talking about?

someone who does very well in previous games tends to do well in another endeavor, you agree with that right? as long as the same effort/time has been put in


Jose... how is this even relevant to this conversation at all? Please stop trying to change the subject.

you told me I wouldn't make it out of diamond with zerg -_-
TolEranceNA
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada434 Posts
September 15 2011 19:22 GMT
#134
On September 16 2011 04:21 slam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 04:18 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:18 slam wrote:
lol @ people trying to bash Fayth.

lol @ Fayth trying to bash people, like somehow he's got game knowledge? If you claim that neural parasite needs a nerf, then you clearly don't understand this game AT ALL.

Stop making this a flame war. >.>
I'm not even going to bother responding to that.

In case you don't realize it, you started it
Arotsis:"Nestea, what do you think about Zerg?" Nestea:"...Sad."
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
September 15 2011 19:22 GMT
#135
Blizzard could have solved all of this by just not making mothership neural parasite-able, which is what they were trying to fix in the first case (same with carriers) correct?
JTWStephens
Profile Joined August 2010
United States60 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 19:23:49
September 15 2011 19:22 GMT
#136
Are they balancing the game around Platinum players or what? This makes no sense. NP doesn't need a nerf - period. The infestor is outrageously squishy, HUGE [for a caster], gets completely shut down by ghosts and is outranged by several units. This is assuming the opponent doesn't simply blink or drop ontop of the infestors and autokill them. NP is far and beyond the worst of the 3 infestor spells and will now simply not be worth researching, period. This doesn't make NP "harder to use". There's nothing hard about it. You select the units, NP kicks in, the infestor gets autokilled. Wasted res, lost game.

Blizz has no idea what they're doing with the infestor.
Novice.965
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
September 15 2011 19:22 GMT
#137
I dont think NP was / is a issue, people can just easily blink like 4 stalkers and kill the infestors like some good players do... This will just reduce the micro needed when you're playing vs Zerg... Back to 1a i guess
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
September 15 2011 19:23 GMT
#138
On September 16 2011 04:22 oOOoOphidian wrote:
Fayth, do you realize that baneling drops were nerfed significantly in this patch as well? I don't think it's a good recommendation to try that style anymore.

hmm I dunno slush told me it was already this way so I just took his word for it
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
September 15 2011 19:23 GMT
#139
On September 16 2011 04:22 tkRage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 04:22 oOOoOphidian wrote:
Fayth, do you realize that baneling drops were nerfed significantly in this patch as well? I don't think it's a good recommendation to try that style anymore.

That's not exactly true. They work exactly the same way they did before. It was debunked.

Nop they dont, check the thread on TL again. Theres a new MOD edit.
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
tkRage
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
225 Posts
September 15 2011 19:23 GMT
#140
On September 16 2011 04:22 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 04:20 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:20 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:19 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:18 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:17 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:16 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:14 tkRage wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:12 ReignFayth wrote:
On September 16 2011 04:08 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
I'm not sure whats worse. It will be near impossible to neural collosus micro'd by someone with even a hint of intelligence, and tanks will becomes a pretty damn good counter to festors. Also won't be able to np mothershits at all :|

mothership shud NOT be NP wtfffffffffffffff

Go play Zerg, and get back to me in three months when you make your way out of Diamond, k?

do you know who you're talking to?

like seriously...

it's just as stupid as idra saying morrow would suck with zerg when he played terran and morrow proved him wrong

zerg is not harder to play than protoss, it's just different

I know exactly who I'm talking to rofl. You're not special, and in no way an authority on the game.

are you sure?

wouldn't you assume that someone like kiwikaki would be good at SC2 even before the game came out?

What are you even talking about?

someone who does very well in previous games tends to do well in another endeavor, you agree with that right? as long as the same effort/time has been put in


Jose... how is this even relevant to this conversation at all? Please stop trying to change the subject.

you told me I wouldn't make it out of diamond with zerg -_-

Because you don't know what the f* you're talking about.
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