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On September 16 2011 04:18 slam wrote:
lol @ people trying to bash Fayth.
lol @ people trying to bash people bashing Fayth
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On September 16 2011 04:19 tkRage wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 04:18 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:17 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:16 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:14 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:12 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:08 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
I'm not sure whats worse. It will be near impossible to neural collosus micro'd by someone with even a hint of intelligence, and tanks will becomes a pretty damn good counter to festors. Also won't be able to np mothershits at all :| mothership shud NOT be NP wtfffffffffffffff Go play Zerg, and get back to me in three months when you make your way out of Diamond, k? do you know who you're talking to? like seriously... it's just as stupid as idra saying morrow would suck with zerg when he played terran and morrow proved him wrong zerg is not harder to play than protoss, it's just different I know exactly who I'm talking to rofl. You're not special, and in no way an authority on the game. are you sure? wouldn't you assume that someone like kiwikaki would be good at SC2 even before the game came out? What are you even talking about?
someone who does very well in previous games tends to do well in another endeavor, you agree with that right? as long as the same effort/time has been put in
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7 range is reasonable. It makes it still good versus Thor but worse versus colossus which is good. Late game zerg army is so strong these days.
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this is yet another retarded idea imo, why do they continuously patch the game to remove the effect of skill? leave it how it was. zergs aren't dominating any tournaments right now, and the one race that is, is going to be made invincible vs z by changing their only true backbone unit so drastically
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On September 16 2011 04:20 ReignFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 04:19 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:18 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:17 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:16 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:14 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:12 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:08 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
I'm not sure whats worse. It will be near impossible to neural collosus micro'd by someone with even a hint of intelligence, and tanks will becomes a pretty damn good counter to festors. Also won't be able to np mothershits at all :| mothership shud NOT be NP wtfffffffffffffff Go play Zerg, and get back to me in three months when you make your way out of Diamond, k? do you know who you're talking to? like seriously... it's just as stupid as idra saying morrow would suck with zerg when he played terran and morrow proved him wrong zerg is not harder to play than protoss, it's just different I know exactly who I'm talking to rofl. You're not special, and in no way an authority on the game. are you sure? wouldn't you assume that someone like kiwikaki would be good at SC2 even before the game came out? What are you even talking about? someone who does very well in previous games tends to do well in another endeavor, you agree with that right? as long as the same effort/time has been put in
Jose... how is this even relevant to this conversation at all? Please stop trying to change the subject.
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On September 16 2011 04:20 ReignFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 04:19 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:18 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:17 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:16 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:14 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:12 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:08 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
I'm not sure whats worse. It will be near impossible to neural collosus micro'd by someone with even a hint of intelligence, and tanks will becomes a pretty damn good counter to festors. Also won't be able to np mothershits at all :| mothership shud NOT be NP wtfffffffffffffff Go play Zerg, and get back to me in three months when you make your way out of Diamond, k? do you know who you're talking to? like seriously... it's just as stupid as idra saying morrow would suck with zerg when he played terran and morrow proved him wrong zerg is not harder to play than protoss, it's just different I know exactly who I'm talking to rofl. You're not special, and in no way an authority on the game. are you sure? wouldn't you assume that someone like kiwikaki would be good at SC2 even before the game came out? What are you even talking about? someone who does very well in previous games tends to do well in another endeavor, you agree with that right? as long as the same effort/time has been put in
AH so you will be good at this game because you were good on another game? Is that what you're trying to say ? lol
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On September 16 2011 04:18 tkRage wrote:lol @ Fayth trying to bash people, like somehow he's got game knowledge? If you claim that neural parasite needs a nerf, then you clearly don't understand this game AT ALL.
Stop making this a flame war. >.>
I'm not even going to bother responding to that.
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On September 16 2011 04:18 tkRage wrote:lol @ Fayth trying to bash people, like somehow he's got game knowledge? If you claim that neural parasite needs a nerf, then you clearly don't understand this game AT ALL.
neural parasite by itself might not need a nerf, but infestor needed one, it was too good overall, they could give a fucking dark archon to zerg with neural if anything with 9 range and I wouldn't mind
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Fayth, do you realize that baneling drops were nerfed significantly in this patch as well? I don't think it's a good recommendation to try that style anymore.
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On September 16 2011 03:46 grungust wrote:
Just goes to show how blizzard has a fundamental misunderstanding on how to balance this game. SC2 game design is just absolutely horrible for 2/3 of the game (protoss,zerg)
That's because they love to cuddle with terran :D
This change I think will be better for zerg indeed.
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thats still bad for zerg. every unit you want to (or "have to") NP has a bigger range than NP itself and all the counters to infestor (HT, Ghost) outrange them aswell.
In ZvT/P all the NP worthy units are held back and how should a zerg come in range to NP a collossus, when he has to walk in range of it plus all the stalker? How to NP thors/tanks if tanks outrange NP by 6 (which is immense)? Sure zergs will get NP off, but how long will it remain? the infestor casting it will die instantaneously.
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On September 16 2011 04:22 oOOoOphidian wrote:
Fayth, do you realize that baneling drops were nerfed significantly in this patch as well? I don't think it's a good recommendation to try that style anymore.
That's not exactly true. They work exactly the same way they did before. It was debunked.
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On September 16 2011 04:20 tkRage wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 04:20 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:19 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:18 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:17 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:16 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:14 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:12 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:08 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
I'm not sure whats worse. It will be near impossible to neural collosus micro'd by someone with even a hint of intelligence, and tanks will becomes a pretty damn good counter to festors. Also won't be able to np mothershits at all :| mothership shud NOT be NP wtfffffffffffffff Go play Zerg, and get back to me in three months when you make your way out of Diamond, k? do you know who you're talking to? like seriously... it's just as stupid as idra saying morrow would suck with zerg when he played terran and morrow proved him wrong zerg is not harder to play than protoss, it's just different I know exactly who I'm talking to rofl. You're not special, and in no way an authority on the game. are you sure? wouldn't you assume that someone like kiwikaki would be good at SC2 even before the game came out? What are you even talking about? someone who does very well in previous games tends to do well in another endeavor, you agree with that right? as long as the same effort/time has been put in Jose... how is this even relevant to this conversation at all? Please stop trying to change the subject.
you told me I wouldn't make it out of diamond with zerg -_-
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On September 16 2011 04:21 slam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 04:18 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:18 slam wrote:
lol @ people trying to bash Fayth. lol @ Fayth trying to bash people, like somehow he's got game knowledge? If you claim that neural parasite needs a nerf, then you clearly don't understand this game AT ALL. Stop making this a flame war. >.> I'm not even going to bother responding to that.
In case you don't realize it, you started it 
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Blizzard could have solved all of this by just not making mothership neural parasite-able, which is what they were trying to fix in the first case (same with carriers) correct?
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Are they balancing the game around Platinum players or what? This makes no sense. NP doesn't need a nerf - period. The infestor is outrageously squishy, HUGE [for a caster], gets completely shut down by ghosts and is outranged by several units. This is assuming the opponent doesn't simply blink or drop ontop of the infestors and autokill them. NP is far and beyond the worst of the 3 infestor spells and will now simply not be worth researching, period. This doesn't make NP "harder to use". There's nothing hard about it. You select the units, NP kicks in, the infestor gets autokilled. Wasted res, lost game.
Blizz has no idea what they're doing with the infestor.
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I dont think NP was / is a issue, people can just easily blink like 4 stalkers and kill the infestors like some good players do... This will just reduce the micro needed when you're playing vs Zerg... Back to 1a i guess 
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On September 16 2011 04:22 oOOoOphidian wrote:
Fayth, do you realize that baneling drops were nerfed significantly in this patch as well? I don't think it's a good recommendation to try that style anymore.
hmm I dunno slush told me it was already this way so I just took his word for it
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On September 16 2011 04:22 tkRage wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 04:22 oOOoOphidian wrote:
Fayth, do you realize that baneling drops were nerfed significantly in this patch as well? I don't think it's a good recommendation to try that style anymore. That's not exactly true. They work exactly the same way they did before. It was debunked.
Nop they dont, check the thread on TL again. Theres a new MOD edit.
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On September 16 2011 04:22 ReignFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 04:20 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:20 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:19 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:18 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:17 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:16 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:14 tkRage wrote:On September 16 2011 04:12 ReignFayth wrote:On September 16 2011 04:08 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
I'm not sure whats worse. It will be near impossible to neural collosus micro'd by someone with even a hint of intelligence, and tanks will becomes a pretty damn good counter to festors. Also won't be able to np mothershits at all :| mothership shud NOT be NP wtfffffffffffffff Go play Zerg, and get back to me in three months when you make your way out of Diamond, k? do you know who you're talking to? like seriously... it's just as stupid as idra saying morrow would suck with zerg when he played terran and morrow proved him wrong zerg is not harder to play than protoss, it's just different I know exactly who I'm talking to rofl. You're not special, and in no way an authority on the game. are you sure? wouldn't you assume that someone like kiwikaki would be good at SC2 even before the game came out? What are you even talking about? someone who does very well in previous games tends to do well in another endeavor, you agree with that right? as long as the same effort/time has been put in Jose... how is this even relevant to this conversation at all? Please stop trying to change the subject. you told me I wouldn't make it out of diamond with zerg -_-
Because you don't know what the f* you're talking about.
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