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Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 21:12:47
September 05 2011 21:05 GMT
#1461
lol at the people trying to compare Idra and Major. They are literally night and day when it comes to how professional they act. Just because Idra has a few remarks from time to time it doesn't even put him close to how unprofessional of a player Major has been ever since BW.

I also feel really bad for Sixjax because there's really no way they can come out of this looking good. Either way they look like they're doing something bad and they just have to cut their losses and simply release him rather than bring even more attention to the situation.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 05 2011 21:09 GMT
#1462
On September 06 2011 05:45 anathematize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 05:42 5ukkub wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:35 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:24 infinity2k9 wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:37 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:34 scarper65 wrote:
Idra's behavior recently hasn't been much better than major's yet major is the one that gets all the hate.


Idra is an extremely like-able and marketable personality in the scene.

Major is almost universally loathed/hated.

You do the math champ.


He's not like-able at all you're fucking delusional

Keep telling yourself that.

Meanwhile... Idra is streaming with commentary to 13k+, representing/hyping his sponsors like a boss and not being kicked off his team.

And Terran is still an immature twat-bag that the vast majority of the community loathes.

The only thing that i expect to get watching IdrA's stream is laugh when he rages and BM's
and i would expect it attracts viewers.
His play isn't interesting at all, it's just about his BM and rage. People just like drama and IdrA delivers it quite often.

Cool. As long as you watch and care... thats all that matters to Idra, EG and EG's sponsors.

Unfortunately for Terran... nobody watches and nobody really cares.

I like terran...
Who are you to talk like such an expert on the what the vast majority of fans like? Some random 30 post user? Take your idra fanboyism somewhere else.

User was warned for this post
warblob004
Profile Joined January 2011
United States198 Posts
September 05 2011 21:11 GMT
#1463
im not surprised.. haha
"I have not failed; I've simply found 10,000 ways it won't work." ~Thomas Edison
Jubio
Profile Joined June 2010
United States50 Posts
September 05 2011 21:11 GMT
#1464
those are bullshit reasons not to send him to Korea.
LOL late game terran I "Manner cc is a must, but as a ceremony it was not quite enough, manner cc needs to have at least 5 SCVs doing it" - FBH I Savior broke my heart ;_;
eourcs
Profile Joined February 2011
United States459 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 21:14:21
September 05 2011 21:12 GMT
#1465
On September 06 2011 06:00 IPA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 05:50 5ukkub wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:45 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:42 5ukkub wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:35 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:24 infinity2k9 wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:37 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:34 scarper65 wrote:
Idra's behavior recently hasn't been much better than major's yet major is the one that gets all the hate.


Idra is an extremely like-able and marketable personality in the scene.

Major is almost universally loathed/hated.

You do the math champ.


He's not like-able at all you're fucking delusional

Keep telling yourself that.

Meanwhile... Idra is streaming with commentary to 13k+, representing/hyping his sponsors like a boss and not being kicked off his team.

And Terran is still an immature twat-bag that the vast majority of the community loathes.

The only thing that i expect to get watching IdrA's stream is laugh when he rages and BM's
and i would expect it attracts viewers.
His play isn't interesting at all, it's just about his BM and rage. People just like drama and IdrA delivers it quite often.

Cool. As long as you watch and care... thats all that matters to Idra, EG and EG's sponsors.

Unfortunately for Terran... nobody watches and nobody really cares.


Yeah... that's like being a clown: As long as people laugh at you, you get paid.


I watch IdrA because he's a solid Zerg.

I watch Major because he's a solid Terran.

Major doesn't really bm like IdrA. They do different things. In the wbc thing, as far as i know, all he said was "good job idiot" after wbc offensive gg'ed him. Compare that to idrA who flips people off on mainstage. This is in no way defending Major, but I think it's stupid to compare them both.
Masters Terran | Strelok after losing to Kas' BCs "FUUUUUCK" *Stream Offline* | "Fuck hellions. Fuck them in the ass" IdrA
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
September 05 2011 21:13 GMT
#1466
On September 06 2011 05:56 ComusLoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 05:42 Defacer wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:38 ComusLoM wrote:
I don't get why they didn't just take legal action instead of releasing him.


Because there's very little benefit in sueing an 19 year old kid with no money. The only thing they would be able to do, at most, is prevent him from signing with another team for the duration of the contract. And if they did that, they'd just be dragging out an unhealthy relationship.

Make sense?


So basically sc2 contracts don't mean anything?



Contracts are valuable because they define terms and expectations for both parties, such as player conduct, salary expectations, performance bonuses, cost of buying out the contract etc. The process of drafting a contract is healthy and useful when doing business.

Unless the player breeching the project is really screwing your business over -- either they've been paid for work they haven't provided or leaving you out to dry at the very last minute -- it's almost always better to just end the relationship and walk away.

But hey, all managers run the risk of contracting someone flakey and unreliable. Sixjax has no one but themselves to blame, to a certain extent. They knew Major's reputation when they signed him.

I'm willing to bet Artosis' conversation with Major was something along the lines of, "I stuck my neck out and fucking vouched for you. You're embarassing me."







anathematize
Profile Joined June 2011
United States69 Posts
September 05 2011 21:20 GMT
#1467
On September 06 2011 06:09 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 05:45 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:42 5ukkub wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:35 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:24 infinity2k9 wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:37 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:34 scarper65 wrote:
Idra's behavior recently hasn't been much better than major's yet major is the one that gets all the hate.


Idra is an extremely like-able and marketable personality in the scene.

Major is almost universally loathed/hated.

You do the math champ.


He's not like-able at all you're fucking delusional

Keep telling yourself that.

Meanwhile... Idra is streaming with commentary to 13k+, representing/hyping his sponsors like a boss and not being kicked off his team.

And Terran is still an immature twat-bag that the vast majority of the community loathes.

The only thing that i expect to get watching IdrA's stream is laugh when he rages and BM's
and i would expect it attracts viewers.
His play isn't interesting at all, it's just about his BM and rage. People just like drama and IdrA delivers it quite often.

Cool. As long as you watch and care... thats all that matters to Idra, EG and EG's sponsors.

Unfortunately for Terran... nobody watches and nobody really cares.

I like terran...
Who are you to talk like such an expert on the what the vast majority of fans like? Some random 30 post user? Take your idra fanboyism somewhere else.

I meant "nobody" in a relative sense. I'm sure that was extremely difficult to comprehend.

Let me know when Major is streaming to 20k+ on a holiday afternoon. Tough to argue with things like "numbers" and "statistics." But on the internet...
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
September 05 2011 21:22 GMT
#1468
On September 06 2011 05:24 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 04:37 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:34 scarper65 wrote:
Idra's behavior recently hasn't been much better than major's yet major is the one that gets all the hate.


Idra is an extremely like-able and marketable personality in the scene.

Major is almost universally loathed/hated.

You do the math champ.


He's not like-able at all you're fucking delusional. Infact before all you SC2 noobs came around here the vast majority of people disliked him. Now he's looked up by a whole throng of idiots cause he acts like a dick. Not to mention the comparison is poor because IdrA is older and on a more important team yet still acts like a twat constantly.

When it comes down to it, i like gosi[terran] for his play and his work ethic, going to Korea seems like a real goal for him that would mean a lot and he's been trying to work his way towards it for YEARS. If there were more truly professionally run teams that have actual communication and you know, were actual teams, it think he would do a lot better. For me it just feels like he wasted a load of time on a joke team that's below his potential. Maybe he'd do well in the Korean environment that others couldn't, i believe he was always known as a mass gamer who isn't bothered about putting the practice hours in - something which a lot of foreigners appear to struggle with these days.

I noticed he's even in a very good ELO position on this very sites databases, yet people criticize him and talk about IdrA as some bastion that players should live up to? Newsflash: IdrA coasted on a mechanics advantage against every other foreigner and playing the beta as a pro from the very beginning. He doesn't have an advantage anymore, was never known as a clever/strategic (quite the opposite) player and unsurprisingly is now getting poor results. In a few years you'll be wondering why there was so much fucking hype in the first place. I mean for christs sake he basically had as much mechanics as Nestea (just without the experience), yet look at the difference now.


Words of wisdom here.. back in BW Idra was never liked at all. Even now the ones who like him are probably the ones Idra hates the most -- the clueless pre-teens and bandwagon hopers who look up to players that can be the biggest dicks or cuss the most and get away with it.
Truedot
Profile Joined August 2011
444 Posts
September 05 2011 21:23 GMT
#1469
On September 06 2011 06:12 eourcs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 06:00 IPA wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:50 5ukkub wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:45 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:42 5ukkub wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:35 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:24 infinity2k9 wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:37 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:34 scarper65 wrote:
Idra's behavior recently hasn't been much better than major's yet major is the one that gets all the hate.


Idra is an extremely like-able and marketable personality in the scene.

Major is almost universally loathed/hated.

You do the math champ.


He's not like-able at all you're fucking delusional

Keep telling yourself that.

Meanwhile... Idra is streaming with commentary to 13k+, representing/hyping his sponsors like a boss and not being kicked off his team.

And Terran is still an immature twat-bag that the vast majority of the community loathes.

The only thing that i expect to get watching IdrA's stream is laugh when he rages and BM's
and i would expect it attracts viewers.
His play isn't interesting at all, it's just about his BM and rage. People just like drama and IdrA delivers it quite often.

Cool. As long as you watch and care... thats all that matters to Idra, EG and EG's sponsors.

Unfortunately for Terran... nobody watches and nobody really cares.


Yeah... that's like being a clown: As long as people laugh at you, you get paid.


I watch IdrA because he's a solid Zerg.

I watch Major because he's a solid Terran.

Major doesn't really bm like IdrA. They do different things. In the wbc thing, as far as i know, all he said was "good job idiot" after wbc offensive gg'ed him. Compare that to idrA who flips people off on mainstage. This is in no way defending Major, but I think it's stupid to compare them both.


a totally aggressive (and immature) Throat cutting gesture from MC and everyone harps on the most universal well used hand sign thats not really too serious from Idra in response to that "kill you", sign? Seriously.

I for one find Idra tame.
As for major, he reminds me of Hunter S. Thompson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson

Not bowing to the status quo, living life his way, etc.
I used to spend my time not caring about people's language in chat. Until I got hit by blizz. Now I spend my time instigating people to verbal abusive levels, so I can ban them in turn. The circle of life.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
September 05 2011 21:28 GMT
#1470
I can't believe the last 10+ pages turned into another Idra flamewar...
Schenkee
Profile Joined October 2010
Scotland322 Posts
September 05 2011 21:28 GMT
#1471
Why the hell has this turned into an Idra whine thread, no one here has a clue what idras contract states or weather he breaks it, no matter how much of an ass he is. Major broke his contract and thus deserves to be booted of the team its as simple and straight forward as that.

Remeber this Major broke his contract.
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 22:00:30
September 05 2011 21:28 GMT
#1472
I always thought of sixjax highly, but i never knew they were a penny auction scam site. Good luck for both parties, MajOr and Sixjax.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
September 05 2011 21:30 GMT
#1473
--- Nuked ---
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
September 05 2011 21:36 GMT
#1474
On September 06 2011 06:23 Truedot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 06:12 eourcs wrote:
On September 06 2011 06:00 IPA wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:50 5ukkub wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:45 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:42 5ukkub wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:35 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 05:24 infinity2k9 wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:37 anathematize wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:34 scarper65 wrote:
Idra's behavior recently hasn't been much better than major's yet major is the one that gets all the hate.


Idra is an extremely like-able and marketable personality in the scene.

Major is almost universally loathed/hated.

You do the math champ.


He's not like-able at all you're fucking delusional

Keep telling yourself that.

Meanwhile... Idra is streaming with commentary to 13k+, representing/hyping his sponsors like a boss and not being kicked off his team.

And Terran is still an immature twat-bag that the vast majority of the community loathes.

The only thing that i expect to get watching IdrA's stream is laugh when he rages and BM's
and i would expect it attracts viewers.
His play isn't interesting at all, it's just about his BM and rage. People just like drama and IdrA delivers it quite often.

Cool. As long as you watch and care... thats all that matters to Idra, EG and EG's sponsors.

Unfortunately for Terran... nobody watches and nobody really cares.


Yeah... that's like being a clown: As long as people laugh at you, you get paid.


I watch IdrA because he's a solid Zerg.

I watch Major because he's a solid Terran.

Major doesn't really bm like IdrA. They do different things. In the wbc thing, as far as i know, all he said was "good job idiot" after wbc offensive gg'ed him. Compare that to idrA who flips people off on mainstage. This is in no way defending Major, but I think it's stupid to compare them both.


a totally aggressive (and immature) Throat cutting gesture from MC and everyone harps on the most universal well used hand sign thats not really too serious from Idra in response to that "kill you", sign? Seriously.

I for one find Idra tame.
As for major, he reminds me of Hunter S. Thompson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson

Not bowing to the status quo, living life his way, etc.


Showmanship is really lost on you.... sigh... MC's throat slash is clearly a joke, and a pretty ridiculous and funny one at that. Flipping off someone is not making a show, it's just being a jackass. It's all about the attitude, and the context. You can tell from afar that what MC does, he does to please and motivate his fans, and he does an excellent job. Idra's gestures and attitudes are not related to the fans at all, he just wants to insult and look better than his opponents, which is sad.

His constant childish attitudes really can't be compared to MC's, they're on a different mindset. While Maj0r just seems to be more of the socially inept type. Personally, I find maj0r a lot more tolerable, though his clan-hopping sucks. Idra leaves games prematurely and then proceeds to forfeit a whole series, damaging the tournament, and making it terrible for the show, that's just........................... well, it's hard to find the correct words.....
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
September 05 2011 21:38 GMT
#1475
i just watched idra's stream

in only 15 minutes he litteraly frowned at FXOtgun's strategy (you could hear the sound from his nose after the battle), calling him "so bad" after he outmicroed him (muta-bane vs infestor-hydra), then realized it's more even then he thought, and shut up.

after that he made the same remark about coLminigun, because he mishandled the voidrays vs infestor/brood.

so yeah, idra is so much more professional than princess...
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
September 05 2011 21:39 GMT
#1476
On September 06 2011 06:28 Schenkee wrote:
Why the hell has this turned into an Idra whine thread, no one here has a clue what idras contract states or weather he breaks it, no matter how much of an ass he is. Major broke his contract and thus deserves to be booted of the team its as simple and straight forward as that.

Remeber this Major broke his contract.


It seems that sxjax doesn't accept douchebags and EG does.

LOOL
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
September 05 2011 21:41 GMT
#1477
In the past few pages Major has been called a fag, a cunt, a "twat-bag", a scum bag, and there have racist comments made about him being Mexican.... and you people claim that Major is classless.

You know its possible to discuss this without spewing hate at a person, right?
`
Jieun <3
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 21:47:55
September 05 2011 21:47 GMT
#1478
On September 06 2011 06:41 PHILtheTANK wrote:
In the past few pages Major has been called a fag, a cunt, a "twat-bag", a scum bag, and there have racist comments made about him being Mexican.... and you people claim that Major is classless.

You know its possible to discuss this without spewing hate at a person, right?
`

You are paritially right, but we are only viewers that are to enjoy SC2 and express our feelings on this forum.
What Major is/was? the progamer. He has a job. He was obligated by a contract. That's totally different...
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
haffy
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom430 Posts
September 05 2011 21:47 GMT
#1479
On September 06 2011 06:38 snailz wrote:
i just watched idra's stream

in only 15 minutes he litteraly frowned at FXOtgun's strategy (you could hear the sound from his nose after the battle), calling him "so bad" after he outmicroed him (muta-bane vs infestor-hydra), then realized it's more even then he thought, and shut up.

after that he made the same remark about coLminigun, because he mishandled the voidrays vs infestor/brood.

so yeah, idra is so much more professional than princess...


People are so desperate to hate on Idra. I don't like when he calls people bad either, and prefer him to talk about what he's doing etc. But seriously could you explain what you said in your post to someone who doesn't play Star craft and expect them to even care? He's bad mannered, sure, but hating on someone for being mildly insulting is kind of hypercritical?
anathematize
Profile Joined June 2011
United States69 Posts
September 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#1480
On September 06 2011 06:41 PHILtheTANK wrote:
In the past few pages Major has been called a fag, a cunt, a "twat-bag", a scum bag, and there have racist comments made about him being Mexican.... and you people claim that Major is classless.

You know its possible to discuss this without spewing hate at a person, right?
`

If the shoe fits...

Its not like he hasn't acted like this for YEARS and YEARS now. He's earned every single bit of bile and venom launched in his direction. I'm sure his feelings will be fine.
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