EPTFnatic and Fenix part ways - Page 12
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
People saying that he's not good enough to join liquid or eg are obviously forgetting those teams weaker players, all of who fenix is as good as or better. That combined with the fact that he's willing to practice in Korea should make him a good pickup for just about any team. I don't see him joining Liquid though as they have a tendency to recruit the 'fan favourites', the kind of players that are praised by the community. While fenix is a nice guy and not someone anyone dislikes, he doesn't quite have the community support like sheth for instance has. FXO seems already ruled out by FXOBoss, would have been a nice option otherwise. So that leaves EG, coL and possibly dignitas. I don't know if dignitas has some deal set up with startale to let their players practice in their house as Naniwa is. If they do I wouldn't be suprised to see finix end up there. Would be nice to have two foreigners practising with startale. EG is also very possible. Biggest problem is that they already have quite a large roster at this point, even though fenix is arguably better than any of the players eg left behind in the us. coL is also possible, but I just don't feel him ending up there for some reason. Would be awesome if he joined a korean team, but I think dignitas or eg are the most likely destinations for fenix. Either way I hope the best for him and that he really gets to benefit from his determination to go to korea! fenix hwaiting! | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
On August 24 2011 13:54 ReignFayth wrote: stealing money is a bad start =( Care to expand on that one? | ||
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TT1
Canada9991 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
it's ok it's just a tease I'm not sure I can expand xD | ||
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RenSC2
United States1050 Posts
- Fnatic has a limited amount of money. - Fenix was getting a salary plus a lot of benefits (like being housed in Korea) from Fnatic. This costs money. - Fnatic didn't feel that Fenix's results warranted his salary + benefits and during the contract negotiations proposed stepping down the salary and/or benefits. - Getting a pay cut is not something most people accept. Fenix is no exception. - Fnatic now uses the money they saved by not re-signing Fenix to recruit a Korean (probably) player(s) who has shown better results. Considering the struggles of many Korean teams financially, Fnatic can probably get significantly better ROI right now by recruiting a Korean than what they got with Fenix. - The "lesser" players on Fnatic are not costing (salary + benefits) what Fenix was asking for. If they are, expect more moves as their contracts expire. As a side note, most teams are trying to recruit the best out there. Very few look at a player on the market and say, "well, he's better than our worst players. Let's get him." No matter the team, those "worst" players have almost all been on the team for a long time and are on contracts from when they were showing good results. When contracts are up, they will either be removed or asked to re-sign for less salary/benefits. Some/most are already on very poor contracts. Best of luck to Fenix, it can be a very tough market if you aren't the "best" (of the moment). | ||
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fams
Canada731 Posts
On August 24 2011 06:17 VirgilSC2 wrote: I went through and compiled all the posts from the Fnatic Manager regarding this, for easier viewing. And here is the post from Fenix about it. Roald isn't part of FnaticMSI management or the SC2 teams manager, Elroy Pinto and Duran Parsi are the managers of the SC2 team - Elroy is also a General Manager at FnaticMSI. Just so you know... | ||
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Vul
United States685 Posts
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
Time for Fenix to find a better team  | ||
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Chrill
Sweden91 Posts
Edit: Getting paid less always seem disrespectful for the person it happens to, but it's just bussiness. I like the honesty from Roychez. | ||
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
GL Fenix Hwating!!! | ||
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Fralse
Sweden44 Posts
On August 24 2011 16:09 DisaFear wrote: Interesting news Time for Fenix to find a better team Yes you are so right. Hopefully he will find a great team to play for! | ||
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
They both showed quite a lot of improvement lately and I could see this happening. | ||
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JoeAWESOME
Sweden1080 Posts
I can also see him going to Sixjax | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
i'm too thinking that we're gonna see eg.fenix because of one of the 5 soundfiles they released. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On August 24 2011 14:44 RenSC2 wrote: What I can understand from the business speak: - Fnatic has a limited amount of money. - Fenix was getting a salary plus a lot of benefits (like being housed in Korea) from Fnatic. This costs money. - Fnatic didn't feel that Fenix's results warranted his salary + benefits and during the contract negotiations proposed stepping down the salary and/or benefits. - Getting a pay cut is not something most people accept. Fenix is no exception. - Fnatic now uses the money they saved by not re-signing Fenix to recruit a Korean (probably) player(s) who has shown better results. Considering the struggles of many Korean teams financially, Fnatic can probably get significantly better ROI right now by recruiting a Korean than what they got with Fenix. - The "lesser" players on Fnatic are not costing (salary + benefits) what Fenix was asking for. If they are, expect more moves as their contracts expire. As a side note, most teams are trying to recruit the best out there. Very few look at a player on the market and say, "well, he's better than our worst players. Let's get him." No matter the team, those "worst" players have almost all been on the team for a long time and are on contracts from when they were showing good results. When contracts are up, they will either be removed or asked to re-sign for less salary/benefits. Some/most are already on very poor contracts. Best of luck to Fenix, it can be a very tough market if you aren't the "best" (of the moment). The housing in Korea is provided by gom, isn't it? (or by fox) edit: On August 24 2011 16:04 Vul wrote: Wow this is really insulting towards Fenix and totally unnecessary. They don't need to say that he wasn't worth investing in, wasn't a good player, etc. It's enough to say that they couldn't reach an agreement. This isn't how you treat your former players... I definitely lost respect for fnatic after reading these statements. Wow, really? Where did they say that? On the site? The site seems down from me, but I'll check on it from time to time. | ||
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BigLighthouse
United Kingdom424 Posts
On August 24 2011 17:41 BobMcJohnson wrote: So, Fenix and SaSe are both teamless and in Korea, It would be interesting to see a Korean team pick them up They both showed quite a lot of improvement lately and I could see this happening. Because we all know how much money those Korean teams have.. Im guessing if fnatic wasnt willing to offer fenix the deal he wanted then the Korean teams probably wont even be in able to, let alone willing. Also I dont get all the people now "losing respect" for fnatic. Its not like they fired a guy from the factory and he cant support his 5 crippled children and blind mother anymore. They couldnt agree on a deal, fenix obviously imagines he's going to get a better deal somewhere else anyway or he'd settle for less so he's not going to be overly upset. Both player and team seem happy with this so why arnt some people here? | ||
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DeadBull
421 Posts
CLIDE goes to sixjax !!! | ||
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