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On August 26 2011 00:59 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 00:56 echO [W] wrote:
People also have to keep in mind that say they hosted the qualifiers after 1 week of announce/prep/ and production for said qualifier they would also have to do production work for the to be decided winners and doing art and graphics for 14 players whilst on deadline is very hard if not impossible given what NASL has to work with.
You also have to take into account of booking the venue ahead of time and the fact that you cannot simply change those dates after the paperwork has been signed etc etc your simply giving NASL an easy way out for their excuse.
Doesn't mean it's not valid. Resources are limited, deadlines exist and production schedules have to be followed. NASL doesn't have unlimited resources and unlimited time.
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It's NASL's tournament and since this is an exceptional situation, they can invite whoever they want.
Thanks for being a total dick to me when I'm just trying to question your methods and make the community aware of how shady you are and how badly you are handling the fact that the entire korean community bailed on you. hahaha, sorry just found that funny.
"Why do you treat me badly, I'm just trying to destroy your reputation and your business. ;_;"
desrow = avilo 2.0
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On August 26 2011 02:12 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 01:06 Xeris wrote:On August 25 2011 22:29 floor exercise wrote:
NASL took people's money for a S2 qualifier tournament. Now they are just randomly inviting people who will get them more viewers. I think Desrow has every right to complain if he paid money and participated in that tournament Randomly inviting people? 1) The only person who is in NASL now that didn't play a qualifier was HuK. If you think he's not one of the top players and should be in the league you're out of your mind. 2) We didn't even invite HuK, his team petitioned us to put him in. I didn't see anyone emailing me to get desrow in, nor did he even contact me himself. Believe it or not, players need to make an effort sometimes, or have teams that care enough about their players to make an effort for them. desrow apparently has neither, so I feel bad for him. 3) Other players we have in the league such as iNkA were 1 round away from qualifying. desrow lost in the first round of the open tournament to a foreigner, and lost in the second round of the 2nd tournament to a Korean (after getting a free win against a foreigner round 1). So, congrats to desrow for winning 0 rounds in 2 NASL qualifying tournaments and expecting favors? In what way would desrow have deserved a spot in the league given that he couldn't even beat a foreigner who only got to round 2 of the open tournament (losing to another foreigner). Even the worst player in NASL Season 1 won games... What I mean by this is; since we don't have time to host another qualifier, and we had to add people from previous qualifiers or Season 1, desrow didn't do ANYTHING to warrant any consideration. 4) Other players who are back in the league were pretty close to making it back anyway (I.E. Tyler who was 1 spot away), or have nice accomplishments since then that warrant their coming back (I.E. Qxc who all killed IM and has been training in Korea for months). This random hate is really silly, floor exercise. But really, thanks for all the incredibly accurate information you seem to know. desrow, I'm sorry you feel sleighted. You had 2 chances to qualify, you didn't. You will have more opportunities for season 3. Thanks for your concern though! Do you think I've been arguing all these pages only for myself ? What about vvv time who was 1 round away also? I know I did poor in the first one and losing 1-2 to ogsvines is not bad but there are other cases that are just outrageous. Onebubbles is another example. Thanks for being a total dick to me when I'm just trying to question your methods and make the community aware of how shady you are and how badly you are handling the fact that the entire korean community bailed on you. Good luck at stealing seats this week end, I already have my pop corn ready on Monday and will be happily spamming f5 on reddit.
Thanks man! Of course I'm going to fight back when you baselessly attack not only me, but my organization. I'm very well aware that Bubbles was 1 round away from qualifying... good thing we haven't announced all the players yet.
We have limited spots so we did what we did -- we feel it was a pretty decent job given the situation we were placed in. We're happy with our list of players for Season 2 and we think a majority of the community will be too!
We have very nice plans for qualification for Season 3 and will be announcing them soon!
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It definently is stupid that you guys are not redoing the qualifiers for anyone that may of been knocked out by koreans in early rounds. I feel that is the simple argument that is trying to be conveyed. Now you are using this as a way to justify inviting known players over players who are possibly more deserving, but won't get spots due to being lesser known.
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what does NASL stand for anyways?
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North American Star League
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On August 26 2011 02:29 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 02:12 desrow wrote:On August 26 2011 01:06 Xeris wrote:On August 25 2011 22:29 floor exercise wrote:
NASL took people's money for a S2 qualifier tournament. Now they are just randomly inviting people who will get them more viewers. I think Desrow has every right to complain if he paid money and participated in that tournament Randomly inviting people? 1) The only person who is in NASL now that didn't play a qualifier was HuK. If you think he's not one of the top players and should be in the league you're out of your mind. 2) We didn't even invite HuK, his team petitioned us to put him in. I didn't see anyone emailing me to get desrow in, nor did he even contact me himself. Believe it or not, players need to make an effort sometimes, or have teams that care enough about their players to make an effort for them. desrow apparently has neither, so I feel bad for him. 3) Other players we have in the league such as iNkA were 1 round away from qualifying. desrow lost in the first round of the open tournament to a foreigner, and lost in the second round of the 2nd tournament to a Korean (after getting a free win against a foreigner round 1). So, congrats to desrow for winning 0 rounds in 2 NASL qualifying tournaments and expecting favors? In what way would desrow have deserved a spot in the league given that he couldn't even beat a foreigner who only got to round 2 of the open tournament (losing to another foreigner). Even the worst player in NASL Season 1 won games... What I mean by this is; since we don't have time to host another qualifier, and we had to add people from previous qualifiers or Season 1, desrow didn't do ANYTHING to warrant any consideration. 4) Other players who are back in the league were pretty close to making it back anyway (I.E. Tyler who was 1 spot away), or have nice accomplishments since then that warrant their coming back (I.E. Qxc who all killed IM and has been training in Korea for months). This random hate is really silly, floor exercise. But really, thanks for all the incredibly accurate information you seem to know. desrow, I'm sorry you feel sleighted. You had 2 chances to qualify, you didn't. You will have more opportunities for season 3. Thanks for your concern though! Do you think I've been arguing all these pages only for myself ? What about vvv time who was 1 round away also? I know I did poor in the first one and losing 1-2 to ogsvines is not bad but there are other cases that are just outrageous. Onebubbles is another example. Thanks for being a total dick to me when I'm just trying to question your methods and make the community aware of how shady you are and how badly you are handling the fact that the entire korean community bailed on you. Good luck at stealing seats this week end, I already have my pop corn ready on Monday and will be happily spamming f5 on reddit. Thanks man! Of course I'm going to fight back when you baselessly attack not only me, but my organization. I'm very well aware that Bubbles was 1 round away from qualifying... good thing we haven't announced all the players yet. We have limited spots so we did what we did -- we feel it was a pretty decent job given the situation we were placed in. We're happy with our list of players for Season 2 and we think a majority of the community will be too! We have very nice plans for qualification for Season 3 and will be announcing them soon!
I like how you mention bubbles but not time bubbles being more "known" than time and now time is getting screwed over =) NASL = SHADY AND NOT LEGITIMATE but then again your talking about an organisation run by Xeris so I guess people should of been expecting this.
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ohhhh ok.....since when is korea in NA? maybe you shouldnt have invited them in the first place since korean isnt in NA hahaha
(b^.^)z
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Desrow is really just coming off as a bitter guy who's angry he wasn't invited. I'm not seeing anything shady about the way they're inviting people.
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On August 26 2011 02:40 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 02:29 Xeris wrote:On August 26 2011 02:12 desrow wrote:On August 26 2011 01:06 Xeris wrote:On August 25 2011 22:29 floor exercise wrote:
NASL took people's money for a S2 qualifier tournament. Now they are just randomly inviting people who will get them more viewers. I think Desrow has every right to complain if he paid money and participated in that tournament Randomly inviting people? 1) The only person who is in NASL now that didn't play a qualifier was HuK. If you think he's not one of the top players and should be in the league you're out of your mind. 2) We didn't even invite HuK, his team petitioned us to put him in. I didn't see anyone emailing me to get desrow in, nor did he even contact me himself. Believe it or not, players need to make an effort sometimes, or have teams that care enough about their players to make an effort for them. desrow apparently has neither, so I feel bad for him. 3) Other players we have in the league such as iNkA were 1 round away from qualifying. desrow lost in the first round of the open tournament to a foreigner, and lost in the second round of the 2nd tournament to a Korean (after getting a free win against a foreigner round 1). So, congrats to desrow for winning 0 rounds in 2 NASL qualifying tournaments and expecting favors? In what way would desrow have deserved a spot in the league given that he couldn't even beat a foreigner who only got to round 2 of the open tournament (losing to another foreigner). Even the worst player in NASL Season 1 won games... What I mean by this is; since we don't have time to host another qualifier, and we had to add people from previous qualifiers or Season 1, desrow didn't do ANYTHING to warrant any consideration. 4) Other players who are back in the league were pretty close to making it back anyway (I.E. Tyler who was 1 spot away), or have nice accomplishments since then that warrant their coming back (I.E. Qxc who all killed IM and has been training in Korea for months). This random hate is really silly, floor exercise. But really, thanks for all the incredibly accurate information you seem to know. desrow, I'm sorry you feel sleighted. You had 2 chances to qualify, you didn't. You will have more opportunities for season 3. Thanks for your concern though! Do you think I've been arguing all these pages only for myself ? What about vvv time who was 1 round away also? I know I did poor in the first one and losing 1-2 to ogsvines is not bad but there are other cases that are just outrageous. Onebubbles is another example. Thanks for being a total dick to me when I'm just trying to question your methods and make the community aware of how shady you are and how badly you are handling the fact that the entire korean community bailed on you. Good luck at stealing seats this week end, I already have my pop corn ready on Monday and will be happily spamming f5 on reddit. Thanks man! Of course I'm going to fight back when you baselessly attack not only me, but my organization. I'm very well aware that Bubbles was 1 round away from qualifying... good thing we haven't announced all the players yet. We have limited spots so we did what we did -- we feel it was a pretty decent job given the situation we were placed in. We're happy with our list of players for Season 2 and we think a majority of the community will be too! We have very nice plans for qualification for Season 3 and will be announcing them soon! I like how you mention bubbles but not time bubbles being more "known" than time and now time is getting screwed over =) NASL = SHADY AND NOT LEGITIMATE but then again your talking about an organisation run by Xeris so I guess people should of been expecting this.
Lol. Desrow providing comic relief in already entertaining situation. vvvTime is more known? Because of the "vvv" in front of his name? I think the community as a whole would be as likely to know Bubbles as Time. They may or may not recognize the "vvv".
Good job Xeris! Keep up the good work.
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I think I am rooting for Idra and Kiwikaki this season ^^
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He never said Time wasn't invited.
It is likely that Time, Bubbles and Demuslim will all be invited since they all were eliminated the round before qualifying.
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Nasl MUST invite both Stephano and Nerchio !! -_-
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Ye I would love to see Nerchio
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On August 26 2011 02:40 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 02:29 Xeris wrote:On August 26 2011 02:12 desrow wrote:On August 26 2011 01:06 Xeris wrote:On August 25 2011 22:29 floor exercise wrote:
NASL took people's money for a S2 qualifier tournament. Now they are just randomly inviting people who will get them more viewers. I think Desrow has every right to complain if he paid money and participated in that tournament Randomly inviting people? 1) The only person who is in NASL now that didn't play a qualifier was HuK. If you think he's not one of the top players and should be in the league you're out of your mind. 2) We didn't even invite HuK, his team petitioned us to put him in. I didn't see anyone emailing me to get desrow in, nor did he even contact me himself. Believe it or not, players need to make an effort sometimes, or have teams that care enough about their players to make an effort for them. desrow apparently has neither, so I feel bad for him. 3) Other players we have in the league such as iNkA were 1 round away from qualifying. desrow lost in the first round of the open tournament to a foreigner, and lost in the second round of the 2nd tournament to a Korean (after getting a free win against a foreigner round 1). So, congrats to desrow for winning 0 rounds in 2 NASL qualifying tournaments and expecting favors? In what way would desrow have deserved a spot in the league given that he couldn't even beat a foreigner who only got to round 2 of the open tournament (losing to another foreigner). Even the worst player in NASL Season 1 won games... What I mean by this is; since we don't have time to host another qualifier, and we had to add people from previous qualifiers or Season 1, desrow didn't do ANYTHING to warrant any consideration. 4) Other players who are back in the league were pretty close to making it back anyway (I.E. Tyler who was 1 spot away), or have nice accomplishments since then that warrant their coming back (I.E. Qxc who all killed IM and has been training in Korea for months). This random hate is really silly, floor exercise. But really, thanks for all the incredibly accurate information you seem to know. desrow, I'm sorry you feel sleighted. You had 2 chances to qualify, you didn't. You will have more opportunities for season 3. Thanks for your concern though! Do you think I've been arguing all these pages only for myself ? What about vvv time who was 1 round away also? I know I did poor in the first one and losing 1-2 to ogsvines is not bad but there are other cases that are just outrageous. Onebubbles is another example. Thanks for being a total dick to me when I'm just trying to question your methods and make the community aware of how shady you are and how badly you are handling the fact that the entire korean community bailed on you. Good luck at stealing seats this week end, I already have my pop corn ready on Monday and will be happily spamming f5 on reddit. Thanks man! Of course I'm going to fight back when you baselessly attack not only me, but my organization. I'm very well aware that Bubbles was 1 round away from qualifying... good thing we haven't announced all the players yet. We have limited spots so we did what we did -- we feel it was a pretty decent job given the situation we were placed in. We're happy with our list of players for Season 2 and we think a majority of the community will be too! We have very nice plans for qualification for Season 3 and will be announcing them soon! I like how you mention bubbles but not time bubbles being more "known" than time and now time is getting screwed over =) NASL = SHADY AND NOT LEGITIMATE but then again your talking about an organisation run by Xeris so I guess people should of been expecting this.
Doesn't really seem shady or illegitimate to me. NASL was put into a difficult situation by the Korean withdrawal and they're making do. And yeah, you do come off as pretty bitter even though your performance doesn't really warrant any consideration.
Maybe you and all these other players you're supposedly looking out for should focus on improving their game so that you can qualify the next time around. It's not like you'll be anywhere but the bottom of your group if they invited you now.
Also, in case you were hoping to get a "fan favorite" invite, complaining like this isn't the way to go about it.
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Taking people from the Ro16 (!!!!) of the old qualifier is a huge hit on the quality of this NASL. Most people seem to have forgotten just how badly organized those qualifiers were on the first time:
- 10 days notice
- Downsized to Ro128 from an expected participation of 1024 players
- Besides the koreans, super weak roster of players: http://binarybeast.com/xSC21106163/participants
- Originally, only Ro4 players qualified to the NASL
Achieving a Ro16 place mean they just won three series, avoiding korean players, praying for lag when they had to play one of them, and beating amateurs and bad pros. That's next to nothing. A TL tournament is bigger than that qualifier.
Frankly, an invite only tournament would have seem a better solution than granting places to Moonan, Lowely or Inka.
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BratOK
Incontrol
HwangSin
Sheth
Moman
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I think it is great the way NASL is replacing the Korean players. Inviting Softball was an excellent move. I was a bit bummed when the Koreans withdrew, but I am pleased to see NASL solving the issue as quickly as possible and excited for the next batch of player announcement.
Keep up the good work NASL 
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Glad they added HwangSin I really love watching him play
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Am I the only one excited for Softball?!?!!!? TAIWAN FIGHTING!
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