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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
August 17 2011 06:18 GMT
#61
On August 17 2011 15:13 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 14:38 MyLastSerenade wrote:
On August 17 2011 14:35 ch33psh33p wrote:
Nestea Vs Mvp finals at Blizzcon.

Nestea V Mvp Gsl finals in Blizzcon.

100% happening.


i feel like nestea would easily win both.


NesTea BARELY made it into the ro16

MMA totally smashed him and he was || close to losing to IMHappy


MVP is HEAVILY favored.

MVP does a ton better when he plans and prepares specific builds and strategies for different maps. He is a master of mind games. He isn't anywhere near as strong in a BO1 as he is in a BO5 or BO7. Against anyone in the world, as you increase the number of games he gets better.

Man it would be epic if we had a nestea/mvp finals for both blizzcon and gsl though
pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
August 17 2011 06:19 GMT
#62
On August 17 2011 15:17 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 14:35 ch33psh33p wrote:
Nestea Vs Mvp finals at Blizzcon.

Nestea V Mvp Gsl finals in Blizzcon.

100% happening.

Interesting thought since they play in the ro8 vs each other


First, it's the Round of 16 d-: And the GSL Finals to be held at BlizzCon is for the October edition, so there is still hope for this world-ending scenario to occur...
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3086 Posts
August 17 2011 06:19 GMT
#63
On August 17 2011 14:34 geno wrote:
Really curious who's going to take third at blizzcon!


Ret
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
August 17 2011 06:19 GMT
#64
On August 17 2011 15:17 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 14:35 ch33psh33p wrote:
Nestea Vs Mvp finals at Blizzcon.

Nestea V Mvp Gsl finals in Blizzcon.

100% happening.

Interesting thought since they play in the ro8 vs each other

The GSL finals at blizzcon is for the next GSL. Not this one.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
August 17 2011 06:19 GMT
#65
Disappointed that we don't get to see Genius back, but oh well.
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
August 17 2011 06:20 GMT
#66
On August 17 2011 15:17 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 14:35 ch33psh33p wrote:
Nestea Vs Mvp finals at Blizzcon.

Nestea V Mvp Gsl finals in Blizzcon.

100% happening.

Interesting thought since they play in the ro8 vs each other


IT could happen.

They play in the Ro16 in GSL August and the GSL Finals at Blizzcon will be the next GSL, GSL October.
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
Magic1264
Profile Joined April 2010
United States60 Posts
August 17 2011 06:33 GMT
#67
On August 17 2011 15:04 chipmonklord17 wrote:
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On August 17 2011 14:37 Magic1264 wrote:
I actually didn't like how they did the Korean invites. They make the best players from each region play each other in a very short, very volatile double elim tourney, where the best player of the region isn't necessarily going to grab the invite.

Yet for the Koreans, which is an INCREDIBLY deep talent pool, they just go ahead and pluck the top two players from the rankings of a very different tourney than the blizzard invitationals.

Its not necessarily about NesTea and MVP being very good players, but put them up against each other in several best of threes against 6 other of the best Korean players, you could end up with a different invite combination than NesTea/MVP (hell, mvp/nestea could very well have eliminated one another).


Blame it on the fact that no other tournament is run as frequently with a system of points given to each player. Statistically speaking, based on the GSL point totals Nestea and MVP SHOULD have won the qualifiers anyway (barring no rediculous upsets or them facing eachother prior). If the rest of the world had any uniform tournament point system then there probably wouldn't be any "qualfiers" and all the invitationals would simply be as "unimportant" as the Korean one.



If it was about finding the best player in each region, the EU and NA invitationals were a sore misrepresentation and hardly holds a candle to the GSL in terms of measuring the "best player."

I am not taking anything away from MVP or NesTea. I'm a big fan of each player, and I would be hard pressed to not call them among the top, if not the top players in the world.

But the Blizzard invitationals had this very "any given Sunday" feel to them. For instance, for the NA region, I don't think you could make the same argument that Select/Sheth being the best players in NA that you could for Nestea/MVP. In fact, I think the skill gap between a player like Huk is just as large from Select/Sheth than it is for NesTea and any other player.

What the invitational brought is a volatility for determining the best player in the region, and not simply going off the performance history of the player. Now MVP/NesTea are extremely good players, but do I think that someone like Polt, MKP or MC could possibly steal a Bo3 series from them, hell ya I do. I just feel they should have kept the same standard the Korean players, much like all of the other regions.
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
August 17 2011 06:34 GMT
#68
Top 2 right there, awesome invites.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 06:42:26
August 17 2011 06:38 GMT
#69
In my opinion, the title is misleading - they are not the korean invites but rather the GSL invites. It was entirely possible that the top 2 GSL rankings were foreigners (although, obviously unlikely).

And yes, as you mentioned, it is different from the KR region invites.
pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
August 17 2011 06:45 GMT
#70
On August 17 2011 15:38 Azzur wrote:
In my opinion, the title is misleading - they are not the korean invites but rather the GSL invites. It was entirely possible that the top 2 GSL rankings were foreigners.

And yes, as you mentioned, it is different from the KR region ivites.


I agree with you in the sense that the top 2 GSL rankings could have been foreigners, but that would still mean they were Korean region invites. I thought omitting the word "region" was fairly unambiguous in context. To emphasise: the Korean region invites to BlizzCon are the top 2 GSL ranked players, as this is how Blizzard stated they would select said invites.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 17 2011 06:46 GMT
#71
Interesting selection, MVP vs. Nestea final anyone?
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 17 2011 06:50 GMT
#72
Damn, IM is so damn good, I wish they took the team league more serious. Nestea and MVP both 1 and 2 with a good lead no less. I bet Losira isn't too far off too.
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 06:57:37
August 17 2011 06:52 GMT
#73
On August 17 2011 15:45 pencil_ethics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 15:38 Azzur wrote:
In my opinion, the title is misleading - they are not the korean invites but rather the GSL invites. It was entirely possible that the top 2 GSL rankings were foreigners.

And yes, as you mentioned, it is different from the KR region ivites.


I agree with you in the sense that the top 2 GSL rankings could have been foreigners, but that would still mean they were Korean region invites. I thought omitting the word "region" was fairly unambiguous in context. To emphasise: the Korean region invites to BlizzCon are the top 2 GSL ranked players, as this is how Blizzard stated they would select said invites.

But if I'm not mistaken, there is going to be a KR region tournament (similar to the ones in NA/EU/LA/CN) to determine who gets the blizzcon spot?

EDIT: Ok, I see what you mean. You omited the "region" in the title to imply that it's not the KR invitational tournament.
pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
August 17 2011 06:57 GMT
#74
On August 17 2011 15:52 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 15:45 pencil_ethics wrote:
On August 17 2011 15:38 Azzur wrote:
In my opinion, the title is misleading - they are not the korean invites but rather the GSL invites. It was entirely possible that the top 2 GSL rankings were foreigners.

And yes, as you mentioned, it is different from the KR region ivites.


I agree with you in the sense that the top 2 GSL rankings could have been foreigners, but that would still mean they were Korean region invites. I thought omitting the word "region" was fairly unambiguous in context. To emphasise: the Korean region invites to BlizzCon are the top 2 GSL ranked players, as this is how Blizzard stated they would select said invites.

But if I'm not mistaken, there is going to be a KR region tournament (similar to the ones in NA/EU/LA/CN) to determine who gets the blizzcon spot?


As mentioned in the OP, the tournament exists but has nothing to do with BlizzCon invites. It makes me wonder why they have the tournament in the first place :-S
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
August 17 2011 06:58 GMT
#75
On August 17 2011 15:57 pencil_ethics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 15:52 Azzur wrote:
On August 17 2011 15:45 pencil_ethics wrote:
On August 17 2011 15:38 Azzur wrote:
In my opinion, the title is misleading - they are not the korean invites but rather the GSL invites. It was entirely possible that the top 2 GSL rankings were foreigners.

And yes, as you mentioned, it is different from the KR region ivites.


I agree with you in the sense that the top 2 GSL rankings could have been foreigners, but that would still mean they were Korean region invites. I thought omitting the word "region" was fairly unambiguous in context. To emphasise: the Korean region invites to BlizzCon are the top 2 GSL ranked players, as this is how Blizzard stated they would select said invites.

But if I'm not mistaken, there is going to be a KR region tournament (similar to the ones in NA/EU/LA/CN) to determine who gets the blizzcon spot?


As mentioned in the OP, the tournament exists but has nothing to do with BlizzCon invites. It makes me wonder why they have the tournament in the first place :-S

I have a feeling that the KR invitational tournament will grant BlizzCon spots.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
August 17 2011 07:00 GMT
#76
Happy its just those two, easy for a ret vs sheth final I can feel it !
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
August 17 2011 07:01 GMT
#77
Ahh I really think they should have thrown MC in there as well. He has had a lot of success in foreign events as well. Either way, I really like MVP and Nestea so it is great to see both of them going!
pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 07:03:55
August 17 2011 07:03 GMT
#78
On August 17 2011 15:58 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 15:57 pencil_ethics wrote:
On August 17 2011 15:52 Azzur wrote:
On August 17 2011 15:45 pencil_ethics wrote:
On August 17 2011 15:38 Azzur wrote:
In my opinion, the title is misleading - they are not the korean invites but rather the GSL invites. It was entirely possible that the top 2 GSL rankings were foreigners.

And yes, as you mentioned, it is different from the KR region ivites.


I agree with you in the sense that the top 2 GSL rankings could have been foreigners, but that would still mean they were Korean region invites. I thought omitting the word "region" was fairly unambiguous in context. To emphasise: the Korean region invites to BlizzCon are the top 2 GSL ranked players, as this is how Blizzard stated they would select said invites.

But if I'm not mistaken, there is going to be a KR region tournament (similar to the ones in NA/EU/LA/CN) to determine who gets the blizzcon spot?


As mentioned in the OP, the tournament exists but has nothing to do with BlizzCon invites. It makes me wonder why they have the tournament in the first place :-S

I have a feeling that the KR invitational tournament will grant BlizzCon spots.


The Korean invitational tournament is only 10 days away if it goes according to schedule, but in Korea there has been no publicity for it whatsoever, so I'm not sure what's up with that :-S And 2 spots are all Korea gets: it is known that each region gets exactly 2 invites for a total of 16 players in the global invitational. With Blizzard confirming NesTea and Mvp as the invites, there will be no other invites from the Korean region.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
August 17 2011 07:16 GMT
#79
On August 17 2011 16:03 pencil_ethics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 15:58 Azzur wrote:
On August 17 2011 15:57 pencil_ethics wrote:
On August 17 2011 15:52 Azzur wrote:
On August 17 2011 15:45 pencil_ethics wrote:
On August 17 2011 15:38 Azzur wrote:
In my opinion, the title is misleading - they are not the korean invites but rather the GSL invites. It was entirely possible that the top 2 GSL rankings were foreigners.

And yes, as you mentioned, it is different from the KR region ivites.


I agree with you in the sense that the top 2 GSL rankings could have been foreigners, but that would still mean they were Korean region invites. I thought omitting the word "region" was fairly unambiguous in context. To emphasise: the Korean region invites to BlizzCon are the top 2 GSL ranked players, as this is how Blizzard stated they would select said invites.

But if I'm not mistaken, there is going to be a KR region tournament (similar to the ones in NA/EU/LA/CN) to determine who gets the blizzcon spot?


As mentioned in the OP, the tournament exists but has nothing to do with BlizzCon invites. It makes me wonder why they have the tournament in the first place :-S

I have a feeling that the KR invitational tournament will grant BlizzCon spots.


The Korean invitational tournament is only 10 days away if it goes according to schedule, but in Korea there has been no publicity for it whatsoever, so I'm not sure what's up with that :-S And 2 spots are all Korea gets: it is known that each region gets exactly 2 invites for a total of 16 players in the global invitational. With Blizzard confirming NesTea and Mvp as the invites, there will be no other invites from the Korean region.

I had a look at the liquipedia and the 8 regions: NA, EU, LA, CN, KR, RU, SEA, TW are the ones going to be represented.

Yeah, a bit weird to have a KR invitational but invite the top 2 GSL as the KR representatives.
Ashworth
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom185 Posts
August 17 2011 07:19 GMT
#80
nestea wins blizzcon! I'm gonna watch diablo 3 stream.
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