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FXO leaves sc2con organisation - Page 5

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magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
August 14 2011 05:22 GMT
#81
I wish we could hear from the Korean players, get their thoughts
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
August 14 2011 05:22 GMT
#82
On August 14 2011 14:20 cerebralz wrote:
When it was started, i was led to believe that S2Con was more of a players association, rather than a governing body. If it keeps going down this road, i hope it folds quickly and something much better arises. It's a hard thing to watch unfold, but whenever people try to govern themselves, there is a process of trial and error that must be gone through to reach a final result of something good.

There's a players association that is run by the players for the players, and then there's the sc2con which is run by the coaches/managers and whatnot.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
August 14 2011 05:22 GMT
#83
Keeping up with all this drama is like having a full time job
High Risk Low Reward
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 14 2011 05:23 GMT
#84
More and more Boss is showing the entire SC2 and even ESPORTS community that he is a flipping Boss!
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ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
August 14 2011 05:23 GMT
#85
yeah I think it is for the best.

I bet these monsters were the real culprits behind the new Startale logo. THOSE MONSTERS!
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 14 2011 05:23 GMT
#86
On August 14 2011 14:22 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 14:20 cerebralz wrote:
When it was started, i was led to believe that S2Con was more of a players association, rather than a governing body. If it keeps going down this road, i hope it folds quickly and something much better arises. It's a hard thing to watch unfold, but whenever people try to govern themselves, there is a process of trial and error that must be gone through to reach a final result of something good.


KeSPA claims to be a player's association as well, but it doesn't act in the interest of players.


no they dont haha

they used to but they took out the "player" in their name ages ago
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
August 14 2011 05:23 GMT
#87
You should have simply said that FXO and sc2con did not see eye to eye and decided to part ways. I don't think slandering the organization will help the cause.
you live and you learn
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
August 14 2011 05:23 GMT
#88
i'm so confused, what does sc2con have to gain by behaving this way? don't they realise this time around there's actually a massive sc2 scene outside of korea and teams don't have to put up with their bs?
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
August 14 2011 05:23 GMT
#89
On August 14 2011 14:21 DarkDolphin wrote:
SC2CON = Evil Empire, everyone make it a new trend .. Anyway SC2CON is not acceptable, the way they are running things will kill E-sports.


Stop pushing this so hard, its pathetic.

I don't really know much about how much control sc2con really has, but it seems more like the only power they really have is having the support of the teams in the sc2con. Either way, FXO was around before joining sc2con, and they will surely be around after leaving (especially with the all kills <3).
MassacrisM
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom149 Posts
August 14 2011 05:23 GMT
#90
To hell with sc2con.

As long as FXO and SlayerS aint in it I'm good.
" One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision " - Bertrand Russell
VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
August 14 2011 05:24 GMT
#91
On August 14 2011 14:20 FXOpen wrote:
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On August 14 2011 14:17 Zzoram wrote:
If all the NASL communications have been going through SC2Con, how do we know that SC2Con didn't purposely mislead both sides to sabotage NASL? I think NASL needs to get in touch with the teams directly and confirm that SC2Con isn't changing the message.


Because teams not in sc2con are also taking the same action.... And there is a reason those teams arent in sc2con..... Sc2con had a limited 'helping hand' with the NASL debacle..


Because teams are not in SC2Con does not exclude them from being pressured from the organization.

Between NASL, FXO and SC2Con psuedo statement. There is something seriously funky going on over there and it does not appear to be above board at all.
AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
August 14 2011 05:25 GMT
#92
On August 14 2011 14:21 DarkDolphin wrote:
SC2CON = Evil Empire, everyone make it a new trend .. Anyway SC2CON is not acceptable, the way they are running things will kill E-sports.


You said this already on the first page. We get it.

Stop.
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 05:27:49
August 14 2011 05:25 GMT
#93
KeSPA is actually tied to the government, so I don't understand why sc2con would think it would be even possible to emulate KeSPA without the approval of the government...

I mean, in any case it would turn out as a half-assed version of KeSPA. We all know how loathsome KeSPA can be, so I don't even want to imagine a worst version of it.

Anyway this whole stuff is really unfortunate because Korean players are the best, and they need the best environment. S2Con does not seem to provide such thing.

edit; also please let's not generalize and mix up things. Afaik this is not how things usually happen in Korea.
o choro é livre
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
August 14 2011 05:25 GMT
#94
On August 14 2011 14:24 VillageBC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 14:20 FXOpen wrote:
On August 14 2011 14:17 Zzoram wrote:
If all the NASL communications have been going through SC2Con, how do we know that SC2Con didn't purposely mislead both sides to sabotage NASL? I think NASL needs to get in touch with the teams directly and confirm that SC2Con isn't changing the message.


Because teams not in sc2con are also taking the same action.... And there is a reason those teams arent in sc2con..... Sc2con had a limited 'helping hand' with the NASL debacle..


Because teams are not in SC2Con does not exclude them from being pressured from the organization.

Between NASL, FXO and SC2Con psuedo statement. There is something seriously funky going on over there and it does not appear to be above board at all.


There is alot of stuff re: NASL that I cant talk about as its heresay. But I can tell you that sc2con is only an 'organising party' in this situation. They did not spread or enforce anything to do with it.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 14 2011 05:25 GMT
#95
On August 14 2011 14:17 Zzoram wrote:
If all the NASL communications have been going through SC2Con, how do we know that SC2Con didn't purposely mislead both sides to sabotage NASL? I think NASL needs to get in touch with the teams directly and confirm that SC2Con isn't changing the message.


I haven't ever spoken to anyone from SC2Con. I've spoken to representatives of Korean teams. I've spoken to Mr Chae from GOMTV. However, nobody has ever told me who specifically is making decisions or anything, and nobody has ever even attempted to contact me directly.
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SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
August 14 2011 05:26 GMT
#96
Props to FXO, do what you gotta do
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KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
August 14 2011 05:26 GMT
#97
Wow that is really unfortunate, and I'm sorry that you guys had to deal with that shit.

I wonder if in this light other teams might come out and say something about it, I doubt it though as a lot of the tension seems to revolve around the fact that you are a foreign team, and you're the only ones.

After the refusal of the NASL generous offer and now this, sc2con I don't think will be gaining much support.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 14 2011 05:27 GMT
#98
Good decision FXO, I fully support you guys. Boss showing Korean nubs who's BOSS. Gj, tired of all this sc2con bullshit, a real organization would've handled all this drama shit much better, clearly not fully professional. FXO gogogogogogo!
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 14 2011 05:28 GMT
#99
On August 14 2011 14:25 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 14:17 Zzoram wrote:
If all the NASL communications have been going through SC2Con, how do we know that SC2Con didn't purposely mislead both sides to sabotage NASL? I think NASL needs to get in touch with the teams directly and confirm that SC2Con isn't changing the message.


I haven't ever spoken to anyone from SC2Con. I've spoken to representatives of Korean teams. I've spoken to Mr Chae from GOMTV. However, nobody has ever told me who specifically is making decisions or anything, and nobody has ever even attempted to contact me directly.


Ok well if you don't know then I have no hope whatsoever.

Right then. C ya!
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Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
August 14 2011 05:29 GMT
#100
What exactly is SC2 Con? Is it part of GOMTV or what? Why exactly is its existence necessary for the Starcraft 2 teams in Korea? I always thought that the teams there were always kind of independently run and decided to participate in tournaments like the GSL and GSTL, so what's the point of this organization?
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